The 'other' Watene-Zelezniak set to roar for Wests Tigers

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Post by Needaname » Sun 11 Feb, 2018 8:34 pm

I do remember him saying in the Moses article ‘I hope Moses finds what’s his looking for’ that our round 1 team could look very different to our team at the end of the season.


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Post by happy tiger » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 12:57 am

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The 'other' Watene-Zelezniak set to roar for Wests Tigers
Author Joel Gould Timestamp Sun 11 Feb 2018, 12:17 PM

Based on a stellar pre-season and form at the back end of last year, Wests Tigers prop Tim Grant insists we'll be hearing a lot more about "the other Watene-Zeleniak" in 2018.

Malakai Watene-Zelezniak, the 26-year-old elder brother of Penrith star Dallin, is one of the "journeymen" Grant said had arrived at the Wests Tigers with the goal of playing the best football of their careers.

After shining as a Panthers under 20s, Malakai went on his own journey and tried his hand at rugby union with the NSW Country Eagles in 2014.

After returning to Penrith and finally making his NRL debut last year he got a release to the Wests Tigers where he scored six tries in 13 impressive games.

"I was at the Panthers with Malakai … and then he missed the boat a little bit," Grant told NRL.com

"To see where he is now compared to where he was back then is a massive transformation.

"Malakai has come back to training in great condition. I haven't seen a guy as fit as him in a long time.

"He has dropped a lot of weight and in the fitness and speed drills at training he beats everyone.

"He is just so professional, and any young rookies coming through should be modelling their preparation on Malakai because he does everything right.

"I had a bit to do with Dallin at Penrith and I see similarities between the two in the way they leave no stone unturned and look after their bodies."

Grant said Malakai was set for "a big year" to follow on from his late season form in 2017. If so, the headline writers may well be putting "MWZ" up in lights as well as "DWZ".

"Malakai showed us all what he was capable of at the back end of last year," Grant said.

"When he was at Penrith he was the next big thing and had all the wraps but didn't get his break for various reasons.

"He went to New Zealand and then he played rugby, but I really think this is his break because he's big and fit and fast. He has got everything you need."

The comings and goings at the Tigers last year, and in the off-season, have been significant.

During 2017 there was the arrival of new coach Ivan Cleary and the departure of Jason Taylor, then the loss of Mitchell Moses. Aaron Woods and James Tedesco moved on at the end of the season. Benji Marshall has returned, Josh Reynolds is on board and leading forwards Ben Matulino, Russell Packer and Chris McQueen have also been acquired.

"The thing for us last year was that there was a lot of instability," Grant said.

"We got a coach five or six weeks in and there were transfers and people coming and going, but we also learned plenty and a lot of young guys got some experience.

"We took a lot of top-four teams right to their limits, which was a good thing."

Grant conceded that "only a skeleton of that 2017 team remains" in one respect, but he quickly added the flesh that had been put on the bones of that skeleton had him excited about the year ahead.

"Now we are all in it together. Josh Reynolds went through a bit at the Bulldogs, Chris McQueen has come in on the back of an injury. All of the guys want to be playing the best footy of their careers and they are putting in the work to do that."
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Post by Geo. » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 5:06 am

Tim Grant is not a reliable source.....he is a Prop..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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OK I was wrong

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Post by Tiger Watto » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 8:22 am

This bloke got a free ride into NRL last year by Ivan, so its safe to say he is part of the Cleary Team.

He didnt set the world on fire, and I'm not convinced he is gona make it at this level, but if he is doing everything right at training, and working harder than before, its all we can ask for.

If he gets a run in Round 1 because of his effort, he deserves his spot.
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Post by oldprop » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 9:21 am

Loved that try in the corner in the Manly game. Sounds like he’s putting in a big effort to keep his position. A battler.
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Post by happy tiger » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 11:14 am

Geo. wrote:
Mon 12 Feb, 2018 5:06 am
Tim Grant is not a reliable source.....he is a Prop..
Was Keefy a reliable sauce , or was he a prop , or was he both ??

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Post by jirskyr » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 1:53 pm

MWZ is behind Nofo and Fonua in my opinion, but I think he's as good as Kev; slightly different skill set. No dramas at all calling him in for injuries.

It's curious to me that I've hardly seen anything said publicly about how Taane Milne is going; I would be guessing he's first-choice centre?

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Post by Earl » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 6:06 pm

I think he is a good player and would do the job well. I want to see though two wingers that are going to get us going every set and I think Fonua and Nofo are the guys to pick.

I was thinking you could move Fonua to the centres but then Milne or Marsters miss out.

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Post by Tigerdon » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 6:24 pm

:D
happy tiger wrote:
Mon 12 Feb, 2018 11:14 am
Geo. wrote:
Mon 12 Feb, 2018 5:06 am
Tim Grant is not a reliable source.....he is a Prop..
Was Keefy a reliable sauce , or was he a prop , or was he both ??
I see what you did there.
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Post by TIGER » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 9:49 pm

Lets just see how he goes hey.
Everyone is "bigger stronger faster leaner meaner tougher more fit" in the pre season, then they actually have to play football, and all the pre season talk means squat.

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 12 Feb, 2018 11:43 pm

Tigerdon wrote:
Mon 12 Feb, 2018 6:24 pm
:D
happy tiger wrote:
Mon 12 Feb, 2018 11:14 am
Geo. wrote:
Mon 12 Feb, 2018 5:06 am
Tim Grant is not a reliable source.....he is a Prop..
Was Keefy a reliable sauce , or was he a prop , or was he both ??
I see what you did there.
Well Geo hasn't worked it out yet , can you help him please TD

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 8:55 am

I like MWZ, no frills outside back. Doesn't shirk the tough stuff and is an honest player.

I am looking forward to the trials to see how these guys all perform. Even with Suli gone there's still quite a bit of competition in the ranks so they'll all need to put in.
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Post by clontarfkid » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 9:13 am

Bit of a journeyman IMO...personally thought he might bulk up a little to avoid those one on one misses that embarrassed him several times last year(incl 2 against Uate in same game),but hes gone the other way and trimmed down for extra speed(which the team sorely needs)
My guess Fonua,if super fit as alleged,will play in the centres with Milne and there may be an opportunity for a taller winger like WZ to field what is gonna be an air raid of bombs from Cronk in round one to his 7ft tall wingers!

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Post by wt01 » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 9:27 am

MWZ will be there come rd 1......

.....hopefully

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Post by Pawsandclaws » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 9:41 am

clontarfkid wrote:
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 9:13 am
Bit of a journeyman IMO...personally thought he might bulk up a little to avoid those one on one misses that embarrassed him several times last year(incl 2 against Uate in same game),but hes gone the other way and trimmed down for extra speed(which the team sorely needs)
My guess Fonua,if super fit as alleged,will play in the centres with Milne and there may be an opportunity for a taller winger like WZ to field what is gonna be an air raid of bombs from Cronk in round one to his 7ft tall wingers!
Fonua better have improved his lateral movement based on his effort in the WC.

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Post by Tacky » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:00 am

Winger/Center info 2018

MWZ // 186cm (6’1) 94kg
Mahe Fonua // 185cm (6’1) 103kg (for real, who measured this bloke?)
Kevin Naiqama // 177cm (5’9) 93kg
Esan Marsters // 185cm (6’1) 105kg
Taane Milne // 183cm (6’0) 99kg
David Nofoaluma // 182cm (5’11) 94kg
Corey Thompson // 178cm (5’10) 91kg

They really aren't much different to any other winger/center in the comp when it comes to height. Of course you get the odd 6'4 winger like Feldt or Tupou, but that's not standard height for a winger.

What concerns me is passing ability. How are the halves gonna pass to these blokes if they're 6'1? I think we're better off with Thompson and Naiqama in there.
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Post by Tiger Watto » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:18 am

Tacky wrote:
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:00 am
Winger/Center info 2018

MWZ // 186cm (6’1) 94kg
Mahe Fonua // 185cm (6’1) 103kg (for real, who measured this bloke?)
Kevin Naiqama // 177cm (5’9) 93kg
Esan Marsters // 185cm (6’1) 105kg
Taane Milne // 183cm (6’0) 99kg
David Nofoaluma // 182cm (5’11) 94kg
Corey Thompson // 178cm (5’10) 91kg

They really aren't much different to any other winger/center in the comp when it comes to height. Of course you get the odd 6'4 winger like Feldt or Tupou, but that's not standard height for a winger.

What concerns me is passing ability. How are the halves gonna pass to these blokes if they're 6'1? I think we're better off with Thompson and Naiqama in there.
The halves throw the ball out in front of them... Its the wingers job to run onto the ball?

Interesting numbers though, especially Fonua. Milne is the perfect size for a Centre at 6ft & 100kg
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Post by magpiecol » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 4:26 pm

Kevin N should be the backup fullback. Nothing more.

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