The 'other' Watene-Zelezniak set to roar for Wests Tigers

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Re: The 'other' Watene-Zelezniak set to roar for Wests Tigers

Post by old man tiger » Fri 16 Feb, 2018 5:30 pm

I'm sure the heights are wrong. I googled Fonua's height and found 3 or 4 different measurements.


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Post by Geo. » Sat 17 Feb, 2018 7:58 pm

magpiecol wrote:
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 4:26 pm
Kevin N should be the backup fullback. Nothing more.
Naiqama selected at starting centre for 1st trial..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by colmcd » Sun 18 Feb, 2018 11:16 pm

Tiger Watto wrote:
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:18 am
Tacky wrote:
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:00 am
Winger/Center info 2018

MWZ // 186cm (6’1) 94kg
Mahe Fonua // 185cm (6’1) 103kg (for real, who measured this bloke?)
Kevin Naiqama // 177cm (5’9) 93kg
Esan Marsters // 185cm (6’1) 105kg
Taane Milne // 183cm (6’0) 99kg
David Nofoaluma // 182cm (5’11) 94kg
Corey Thompson // 178cm (5’10) 91kg

They really aren't much different to any other winger/center in the comp when it comes to height. Of course you get the odd 6'4 winger like Feldt or Tupou, but that's not standard height for a winger.

What concerns me is passing ability. How are the halves gonna pass to these blokes if they're 6'1? I think we're better off with Thompson and Naiqama in there.
The halves throw the ball out in front of them... Its the wingers job to run onto the ball?

Interesting numbers though, especially Fonua. Milne is the perfect size for a Centre at 6ft & 100kg
I got flamed for saying height was an issue with passing. In fairness for some reason I thought Reynolds was shorter then everyone else.... (I was wrong).

If you're doing solid looking passes and you aim for their chest... No problems. If you however do No look passes, then you are trusting that you are aiming around the chest. It's a little more natural when you have people of the same height.

To clarify, Josh Reynolds is 1.85M, Luke Brooks is 1.79 and Benji is 1.82M. Which is roughly the same heights as our wingers. Luke and Tui may have a slightly SLIGHTLY easier time passing to Kevie and Corey, but no where near enough to warrant their selection on that alone.... So this is a non issue for us (but if you have a Ben Barba or Chris Sandow, it's an issue).

7 players for 4 spots and each are pushing hard to get their space. Cleary has a plan and I hope his competition for places gets the result he wants. It's harsh but it may just work, glad Moses Suli is gone because 8 players for 4 is just going to burn talent.

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Post by The Queen » Sun 18 Feb, 2018 11:46 pm

colmcd wrote:
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 11:16 pm
Tiger Watto wrote:
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:18 am
Tacky wrote:
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:00 am
Winger/Center info 2018

MWZ // 186cm (6’1) 94kg
Mahe Fonua // 185cm (6’1) 103kg (for real, who measured this bloke?)
Kevin Naiqama // 177cm (5’9) 93kg
Esan Marsters // 185cm (6’1) 105kg
Taane Milne // 183cm (6’0) 99kg
David Nofoaluma // 182cm (5’11) 94kg
Corey Thompson // 178cm (5’10) 91kg

They really aren't much different to any other winger/center in the comp when it comes to height. Of course you get the odd 6'4 winger like Feldt or Tupou, but that's not standard height for a winger.

What concerns me is passing ability. How are the halves gonna pass to these blokes if they're 6'1? I think we're better off with Thompson and Naiqama in there.
The halves throw the ball out in front of them... Its the wingers job to run onto the ball?

Interesting numbers though, especially Fonua. Milne is the perfect size for a Centre at 6ft & 100kg
I got flamed for saying height was an issue with passing. In fairness for some reason I thought Reynolds was shorter then everyone else.... (I was wrong).

If you're doing solid looking passes and you aim for their chest... No problems. If you however do No look passes, then you are trusting that you are aiming around the chest. It's a little more natural when you have people of the same height.

To clarify, Josh Reynolds is 1.85M, Luke Brooks is 1.79 and Benji is 1.82M. Which is roughly the same heights as our wingers. Luke and Tui may have a slightly SLIGHTLY easier time passing to Kevie and Corey, but no where near enough to warrant their selection on that alone.... So this is a non issue for us (but if you have a Ben Barba or Chris Sandow, it's an issue).

7 players for 4 spots and each are pushing hard to get their space. Cleary has a plan and I hope his competition for places gets the result he wants. It's harsh but it may just work, glad Moses Suli is gone because 8 players for 4 is just going to burn talent.
I am 179cm and was talking to Josh a few months ago near his house in Lilly pilly unless he has grown a lot since then hes not 185cm and he was not as tall as me

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Post by colmcd » Mon 19 Feb, 2018 5:33 pm

The Queen wrote:
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 11:46 pm
colmcd wrote:
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 11:16 pm
Tiger Watto wrote:
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:18 am
Tacky wrote:
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 10:00 am
Winger/Center info 2018

MWZ // 186cm (6’1) 94kg
Mahe Fonua // 185cm (6’1) 103kg (for real, who measured this bloke?)
Kevin Naiqama // 177cm (5’9) 93kg
Esan Marsters // 185cm (6’1) 105kg
Taane Milne // 183cm (6’0) 99kg
David Nofoaluma // 182cm (5’11) 94kg
Corey Thompson // 178cm (5’10) 91kg

They really aren't much different to any other winger/center in the comp when it comes to height. Of course you get the odd 6'4 winger like Feldt or Tupou, but that's not standard height for a winger.

What concerns me is passing ability. How are the halves gonna pass to these blokes if they're 6'1? I think we're better off with Thompson and Naiqama in there.
The halves throw the ball out in front of them... Its the wingers job to run onto the ball?

Interesting numbers though, especially Fonua. Milne is the perfect size for a Centre at 6ft & 100kg
I got flamed for saying height was an issue with passing. In fairness for some reason I thought Reynolds was shorter then everyone else.... (I was wrong).

If you're doing solid looking passes and you aim for their chest... No problems. If you however do No look passes, then you are trusting that you are aiming around the chest. It's a little more natural when you have people of the same height.

To clarify, Josh Reynolds is 1.85M, Luke Brooks is 1.79 and Benji is 1.82M. Which is roughly the same heights as our wingers. Luke and Tui may have a slightly SLIGHTLY easier time passing to Kevie and Corey, but no where near enough to warrant their selection on that alone.... So this is a non issue for us (but if you have a Ben Barba or Chris Sandow, it's an issue).

7 players for 4 spots and each are pushing hard to get their space. Cleary has a plan and I hope his competition for places gets the result he wants. It's harsh but it may just work, glad Moses Suli is gone because 8 players for 4 is just going to burn talent.
I am 179cm and was talking to Josh a few months ago near his house in Lilly pilly unless he has grown a lot since then hes not 185cm and he was not as tall as me
... :cry: I hate wikipedia

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