What to do with Grubby?

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Re: What to do with Grubby?

Post by Skip » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 8:41 am

Don't know if anyone notice but he attempted a couple leg trips
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Post by 05TIGZ » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 8:44 am

Doc Tiger wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 7:58 am
I must be the only one that was really pleased with his input vs Manly. Defensively, he was a terrier. And let's not forget, it's his first game. Having Grub on the bench is ideal given his ability to adequately cover various positions. Loved seeing him out there. Benji has earned the right to the 6 for now, but Josh is always going to be snapping at his heels. Great for the team.
I agree, the energy in defence was highely noticeably. Plus he can play any position so if someone goes down injured he can cover. As he gets match fitness he will only get better. Benji does some good things, but did a lot of bad things yesterday. His bombs were uncAtchable but all his other kicks were terrible. Good headache for Ivan to have.

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Post by Nelson » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 8:57 am

Tigerdon wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 8:19 am
When Manly started to get on a roll he seemed to throw himself into every second tackle and tried hard to stop their momentum.
I was surprised when he look buggered because during the pre season everyone said he was really driving the intensity of the training. Still fitness can be easily lost.
It was good that Ivan threw him in the see where he was at.
It's just the difference between fitness generally and match fitness. He'll develop is match fitness quickly if he's got a good fitness base.

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Post by innsaneink » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 9:18 am

EzyTyga wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 8:41 am
Don't know if anyone notice but he attempted a couple leg trips
No.. I didn't notice

I agree with others on his defence... Really getting stuck in... Love his enthusiasm & he will only improve with time.
What a fantastic win for your debut with your new club
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Post by momo&medo » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 9:34 am

05TIGZ wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 5:47 am
innsaneink wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 5:35 am
To be honest I was a bit shocked yesterday when he came on...he looks nothing like he did at the Dogs...and I thought Tui looked slow
Hes no dummyhalf ...the squad really is unbalanced
Cleary is under pressure to play him as our marquee
I just hope he improves and gets match fitness quickly
The more you post the more I think your either JT or a family member of his. Cleary and pressure is something that doesn’t exist. Nofa and tui have both been dropped and they are our highest paid outsde backs. Obviously Ivan sees something in reynnolds and thinks he has to be in our to 17. It’s his first game back, he needs match fitness and once he gets it we will get our money’s worth. You harped on about our attack and look how well it’s going. Must be getting hard for you.
Settle down ..... for goodness sake everyone has an opinion on this site worth considering.
As far Reynolds ... he will fit in well enough and it’s a long season.
For yesterday he did well for the level of match fitness he had.


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Post by Muffstar » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 9:47 am

He looked so happy when he came on and tried his best. When his stint was finished he was totally buggered which you would expect. More games, more fitness and he will improve.

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Post by 05TIGZ » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 9:55 am

momo&medo wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 9:34 am
05TIGZ wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 5:47 am
innsaneink wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 5:35 am
To be honest I was a bit shocked yesterday when he came on...he looks nothing like he did at the Dogs...and I thought Tui looked slow
Hes no dummyhalf ...the squad really is unbalanced
Cleary is under pressure to play him as our marquee
I just hope he improves and gets match fitness quickly
The more you post the more I think your either JT or a family member of his. Cleary and pressure is something that doesn’t exist. Nofa and tui have both been dropped and they are our highest paid outsde backs. Obviously Ivan sees something in reynnolds and thinks he has to be in our to 17. It’s his first game back, he needs match fitness and once he gets it we will get our money’s worth. You harped on about our attack and look how well it’s going. Must be getting hard for you.
Settle down ..... for goodness sake everyone has an opinion on this site worth considering.
As far Reynolds ... he will fit in well enough and it’s a long season.
For yesterday he did well for the level of match fitness he had.
Don’t get your knickers in a knot mate, you need to settle down. I was responding to a post that said our squad is unbalanced and that Cleary was under pressure to play Reynolds. Which is my opinion, is that okay?

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Post by maxxy86 » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:09 am

EzyTyga wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 8:41 am
Don't know if anyone notice but he attempted a couple leg trips
I know I saw 1 of them and thought gee that’s his bad habit rearing. But in all honesty I think he needs a couple of games in ISP to get match fitness. As Eliajah is due back and would warrant at least a bench spot.
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Post by Russell » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:13 am

maxxy86 wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:09 am
EzyTyga wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 8:41 am
Don't know if anyone notice but he attempted a couple leg trips
I know I saw 1 of them and thought gee that’s his bad habit rearing. But in all honesty I think he needs a couple of games in ISP to get match fitness. As Eliajah is due back and would warrant at least a bench spot.
Didn't see any attempted leg trips myself. Would he be that stupid?

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Post by Magpie Magic » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:18 am

king sirro wrote:
Mon 16 Apr, 2018 7:15 am
What concerned me about benji yesterday was I believe he actually took away from Luke's game. Luke was on fire early then Benji started getting it too much and we looked legless as a result. He had 4 very poor last tackle options. His only good last tackle options were his bombs, which were great. Poor pass over the sideline was a shocker.

Great 2 tries, great defence, great bombs....all very good. But let's not pretend the poor wasn't really poor. His 2 grubbers straight into Manly players turning the ball over, passing to Lawrence on a short blind to kick, throwing the ball the Esarn on a short blind to kick, these are last tackle options that should have went to Brooks. That's the problem with Benji, if he does a couple of good things, he then takes the ball too much. Give it to Brooks 70% of the time please on the last.

I'm not trying to bag Benji, I'm very happy he's here and very happy with what he has done. But there are signs there that worry me. I think Brooks taking even more control and Reynolds sitting back getting the ball when Luke wants him to get it would be a better balance. Just my opinion.
Some valid points but Benji is a legend. Truth is like all champions his poor comes at times which are less important whereas his good moments come at key times.
I feel he adds to Brooks because he dosent take away any of confidence while making Brooks feel he has a reliable back stop. He was signed to do this without playing and we got a bonus. At the moment if Reynolds partnered Brooks they both may try to out do the other so it wouldn't work as well. Reynolds is great just in the squad. His moment will come. On the bench for now for me.

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Post by Newtown » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:20 am

The club is blessed in having a player such as Reynolds who, when fit, can come off the bench and enthuse the team with his attitude and energetic tackling irrespective of which position he is required to take over.

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Post by Toowoomba Tiger » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:25 am

I can't see Reynolds doing any better than Benji is at 6. Benji is going great and the balance with Brooks is getting better each game. You can't change a winning team, even if Reynolds is on big bucks (McQueen still in reggies).

Bench hooker for the next few weeks. Liddle could play 80 but Josh giving him a spell will only keep him fresh for when he comes back on late.

I think Reynolds will have to accept this position for this season and as long as the team doesn't suffer when he comes on at dummy half, then keep him there to spell Liddle. If we do suffer from this interchange then its ISP for Reynolds unless injuries hit.
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Post by Tiger Steve » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:30 am

Reynolds ruck defence was great. He proved and made some metres out of DH. Yes his execution suffered as his fatigue kicked in but that will not last.
Excellent replacement for Liddle atm. 14 next week for sure imo.
Also, Benji and Brooks were outstanding. Always going to have some errors when you’re playing instinctively
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Post by Bee-Em » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:40 am

I may be wrong but wasn't the team always going to have this scenario, just the other way around?? J.Rey at 6 and Benji coming off the bench (which were all assumptions I gather). Nice problem to have.

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Post by Telltails » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:42 am

Reynolds has not played consistent footy for an age he will need time. He looked real nervous to me. New club lots of expectation and a team that has been going great guns without him.
It will take time to see how best fits, and there is a possibility that it may be behind those already there.

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Post by Cairnstigers » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:46 am

Very Happy with the team effort against Manly
I would keep the same team with Grub on the bench
He seamed a little slow yesterday and needs the match fitness and I think easing him back is a good option off the bench
May pay to keep Taylor out for another week to make sure he has fully recovered
As i mentioned earlier I thought Tommy Turbo may be coming back to early from injury and that didn't work out to well for them
We don,t want to make the same mistake
Taylor is to valuable to our team to risk if not at 100%

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Post by WT2K » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 10:50 am

Wouldn't change anything, keep it as is. JR coming off the bench.
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Post by Balmain Boy » Mon 16 Apr, 2018 11:09 am

From that game he needs to be playing ISP in the short term. He was completely buggered after playing just 20 mins.

Liddle was also out injured for 8 months and had far fewer problems with fitness on return. Grub also played and trained most of the preseason where Liddle didn't.

Maybe getting a good 60-80 mins in ISP for a week or two will help him get up to speed?

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