Nofo Must Do His Time

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Re: Nofo Must Do His Time

Post by The Patriot » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 7:23 am

jirskyr wrote:
Sat 21 Apr, 2018 11:25 pm
So I'd say in review:
#1 Benji commits to the dummy, forces Marsters to come in on Ponga, Nofo burst out for Ross and Ponga picks it. Perhaps Nofo can stay out and let the cover take the centre. So I'd say Benji causes the main problem but Marsters and Nofo manage to take nobody, i.e. you need to be faster if you are going to cut players off.

#2 Benji again I reckon, comes in too hard on Pearce, but nobody is sliding... I thought Tigers were a sliding team in 2018 rather than an up-in edge defence? If Benji backs off, Rochow covers the inside and Nofo isn't caught so far inside his sideline. I will say however I feel Nofo is still over-committed here, he doesn't need to be 10 m inside, there's no chance he'll get to his winger if they cut-out. Marsters needs some opportunity to turn and chance, but he'll never reach the winger. Any surprise both these tries are rapid cut-outs, like Knights know Nofo will come in?


I saw Benji as the issue as well.

In other games he has been coming up out of the line and getting away with it, Brown might have done a job on him here.
Its an opinion!


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Post by larrycorowa » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 7:32 am

If you blame the winger for a loss when the team missing 50+ tackles I think you are missing the point. I thought we look vulnerable on both edges which I think was a function of losing the ruck and struggling in the middle.

They will need to work out what went wrong. We lost the forward battle...,was it selections, rotations? Probably a bit of both.

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Post by larrycorowa » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 7:40 am

Geo. wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 7:18 am
Wow...thanks for the gifs.....Nofoauma should be like a puppy on a leash tethered to the sideline so there can be a 10m gap between him and his inside man for 2 of those TRIES so the opposition back rower or centre to strole through that is obvious ..the other one was a very poor effort on his behalf letting his opposite through....

Once again is he totally faultless NO..but blaming individuals for defensive errors is often the soft way out the pictures tell the story...perhaps that whole right hand side needs to be dropped so they can work on their defensive deficiencies as a UNIT....
Spot on geo.... the way I see it if he doesn’t come in on the first two tries, the outside centre strolls in. Benji looks like he has decided to turn in rather than trust the inside defence. Thought he has a very ordinary game apart from flashes of brilliance. In hindsight we were outplayed all over the park and were lucky to have a chance to win. Lessons to be learnt and if our current crop can’t learn them find some that can for 2019.

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Post by larrycorowa » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 7:42 am

It’s what crap, dishonesty best teams do....drop the winger after a loss.

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Post by Russell » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 8:07 am

momo&medo wrote:
Sat 21 Apr, 2018 8:25 pm
No matter how you analyse his performance tonight.
Surely you must see that he is a liability.
I doubt that he will be with us next season.
I’d take Nathan Ross.
Are you collecting no hopers?

In another thread you said you would take Norths hooker.


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Post by momo&medo » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 8:29 am

Russell wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 8:07 am
momo&medo wrote:
Sat 21 Apr, 2018 8:25 pm
No matter how you analyse his performance tonight.
Surely you must see that he is a liability.
I doubt that he will be with us next season.
I’d take Nathan Ross.
Are you collecting no hopers?

In another thread you said you would take Norths hooker.
We are definitely not on same page mate!
For the record Ross outplayed both our wingers last night. He would be a low cost upgrade.
As far as Robbie is concerned you just don’t get it!
Time to get that chip of your shoulder.

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Post by Russell » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 8:35 am

momo&medo wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 8:29 am
Russell wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 8:07 am
momo&medo wrote:
Sat 21 Apr, 2018 8:25 pm
No matter how you analyse his performance tonight.
Surely you must see that he is a liability.
I doubt that he will be with us next season.
I’d take Nathan Ross.
Are you collecting no hopers?

In another thread you said you would take Norths hooker.
We are definitely not on same page mate!
For the record Ross outplayed both our wingers last night. He would be a low cost upgrade.
As far as Robbie is concerned you just don’t get it!
Time to get that chip of your shoulder.
I don't get it - you are absolutely right.

Whats with the chip crack - settle down and talk sensibly.

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Post by TCL » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:29 am

1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.

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Post by Russell » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:47 am

Tiger Come Lately wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:29 am
1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.
You don't know that! :roll:

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Post by Newtown » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:54 am

Tiger Come Lately wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:29 am
1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.
If Tui is still out of form it is time to play Heleta as first grade fullback and Thompson on wing replacing Nofo.

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Post by formerguest » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 10:21 am

Newtown wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:54 am
Tiger Come Lately wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:29 am
1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.
If Tui is still out of form it is time to play Heleta as first grade fullback and Thompson on wing replacing Nofo.
Heleta is not on a Top 30 contract, so not eligible to play first grade.

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Post by Chevy » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 10:26 am

I have only seen Heleta in a few games,he seems to have a lot of speed yet rarely gets a mention for fg,not being contracted doesn’t help his cause .

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Post by Snake » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 10:31 am

king sirro wrote:
Sat 21 Apr, 2018 9:08 pm
Nofo has completely outplayed Fonua in every ISP game. Fonua has a long way to go. Lolo would be a better wing option.
I have also watch all the ISP games telecast , the only reason Nofo has looked better than Fonua is the skill of Gamble his line kicks and passes have talent all over them with Nofo being the beneficiary. Who is doing all the hard runs and constantly looking for work Fonua ... He has earned a call up as Nofoalumas General game is not worthy of him keep his spot ...on form Fonua hands down at present. :sign:

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Post by Newtown » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 11:02 am

formerguest wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 10:21 am
Newtown wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:54 am
Tiger Come Lately wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:29 am
1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.
If Tui is still out of form it is time to play Heleta as first grade fullback and Thompson on wing replacing Nofo.
Heleta is not on a Top 30 contract, so not eligible to play first grade.
Doesn't Wests Tigers currently have two Top 30 contract spots vacant.

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Post by Doc Tiger » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 11:09 am

momo&medo wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 8:29 am
Russell wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 8:07 am
momo&medo wrote:
Sat 21 Apr, 2018 8:25 pm
No matter how you analyse his performance tonight.
Surely you must see that he is a liability.
I doubt that he will be with us next season.
I’d take Nathan Ross.
Are you collecting no hopers?

In another thread you said you would take Norths hooker.
We are definitely not on same page mate!
For the record Ross outplayed both our wingers last night. He would be a low cost upgrade.
As far as Robbie is concerned you just don’t get it!
Time to get that chip of your shoulder.
There's nothing more infuriating than FarahS name infiltrating every damn thread.

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Post by king sirro » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 11:20 am

Snake wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 10:31 am
king sirro wrote:
Sat 21 Apr, 2018 9:08 pm
Nofo has completely outplayed Fonua in every ISP game. Fonua has a long way to go. Lolo would be a better wing option.
I have also watch all the ISP games telecast , the only reason Nofo has looked better than Fonua is the skill of Gamble his line kicks and passes have talent all over them with Nofo being the beneficiary. Who is doing all the hard runs and constantly looking for work Fonua ... He has earned a call up as Nofoalumas General game is not worthy of him keep his spot ...on form Fonua hands down at present. :sign:

I disagree. Nofo does just as much hard work and breaks much more tackles than Fonua. To say Nofo only looks better because of Gamble is a stretch.

I'm not digging at Fonua, when we signed him I thought he'd be great and walk into first grade, but he has turned out to be one of those real heart in mouth players. Cant catch a bomb to save himself either. I'd like to see how Fonua goes in the centres. I think that would suit him better.
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Post by jirskyr » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 11:33 am

On this topic, surely Cleary will do his HW and make the right decision - he is obviously a good coach.

If he keeps Nofo, we can understand he feels the D was a bigger-picture failure and will work on it with all players.

If he drops Nofo, he would feel Nofo has failed at some key indicator. Being aware of course that Nofo was dropped at season beginning precisely because he had holes in his game.

Trust in the coach?

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Post by formerguest » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 11:37 am

Newtown wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 11:02 am
formerguest wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 10:21 am
Newtown wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:54 am
Tiger Come Lately wrote:
Sun 22 Apr, 2018 9:29 am
1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.
If Tui is still out of form it is time to play Heleta as first grade fullback and Thompson on wing replacing Nofo.
Heleta is not on a Top 30 contract, so not eligible to play first grade.
Doesn't Wests Tigers currently have two Top 30 contract spots vacant.
I believe that it is one spot, with payment to Curtis Sironen filling the other currently. Also think we need to spend half a million odd plus just to meet our minimum cap spend and unless we extend and upgrade a few more (assumed)like Esan, well, I presume WT are looking for disgruntled top liners at other clubs, rather than the likes of Watson or similar.

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