Terrible judges of footballers

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Post by southerntiger » Sat 29 May, 2010 10:42 am

king sirro wrote:
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bonstonker wrote:
i wouldn't be so quick to judge
if he finishes the year in state cup because of poor form,then they don't look so terrible do they.
there are alot of lower graders that can put a couple of good games in if they were given the chance.
but the test is can they do it over a longer period of time.

hopefully he carries his form through the rest of the year and works harder at his game than ever.if he rests on his laurels he will be back where some thought he belonged.
Possibly Bon but I would be surprised based on that performance. It all depends if the forwards and halves do their jobs I guess.

I agree with Bon, dont be so quick to judge. The guy has talent, but there was one point in the 2nd half where his attempt of tackle on Ropati (i think) was dreadful.
Yeh I noticed that. He has some work to do on his defence but it was nowhere near as bad as I was led to believe.


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Post by Geo. » Sat 29 May, 2010 10:57 am

Daniela is very fast...

Terrible judges of Footballers......Glass houses southern...

Tim Moltzen better than Lui at this stage of their carreers.....
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Post by southerntiger » Sat 29 May, 2010 11:03 am

Geo. wrote:
Tim Moltzen better than Lui at this stage of their carreers.....
I have never said otherwise but I am no longer convinced that is correct. Lui is a far more complete halfback - still needs to work on his passing game, it is a bit slow and erratic at times - but has all the attributes of an organising half. Same cant be said for Tim.

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Post by Geo. » Sat 29 May, 2010 11:17 am

southerntiger wrote:
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Tim Moltzen better than Lui at this stage of their carreers.....
I have never said otherwise but I am no longer convinced that is correct. Lui is a far more complete halfback - still needs to work on his passing game, it is a bit slow and erratic at times - but has all the attributes of an organising half. Same cant be said for Tim.
Really more complete Halfback....is that why Sheensy had him playing 5/8th = 2nd receiver for the majority of his 2 comeback games........

Wests Tigers have done away with the halfback position.....
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Post by southerntiger » Sat 29 May, 2010 11:24 am

Okay I will say more complete half. Regardless, he looked more and more like a genuine 7 last night.


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Post by tiger tigers » Sat 29 May, 2010 11:28 am

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southerntiger wrote:Whoever said Daniella isnt first grade quality should never comment on a wests tigers player again. Great defensive and attacking performance. Backs up a very solid performance from last week. Still watching the replay with 30 mins to go.
I'm glad you actually watched the game before commenting this time.

Humble pie tastes great, I'd love more shoved in my face. Hope we see more of that, it was fantastic.

I only judged what I saw last year at Penrith and in State Cup this year, where he was ordinary at best.
ditto HT .. daniella had shown nothing up to his last two games ....chuck as much pie as you like .....and whilst your on it ... chuck a bit for LUI because last night i thought he was sensational ......but in the end ,, dont start getting too carried away ....we beat a very understrength warriors out fit ......the test starts next week v the dogs .....

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Post by G. Strombolli » Sat 29 May, 2010 11:38 am

Daniela had what I believe they referred to in the old days as a blinder. He was great to watch.

After last night's performance, it's easy to say he offers more than Ayshford has, but I don't think he's been tested - the Warriors especially had nothing anywhere on the park. Geoff is fast and elusive but he is a little bloke - how would he go against some of the bigger centres, and there are some big ones, out there? If he holds his own, good on him - give him the spot.

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Post by southerntiger » Sat 29 May, 2010 11:55 am

Just for record, the reason why I started this thread was because of the nature in which Geoff has been criticised since coming to the club. I, like most here, have seen very little of him, yet people still wanted to bash him no end. I always thought it was overly harsh. I am glad he has put together two very solid performances.

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Post by ron burgandy » Sat 29 May, 2010 12:12 pm

i know what u mean ST

earlier in the preseason people were bagging him out even though he averages a try every 2 games in FG and he had better defensive stats then ayshford and ryan when compared to last year

people on here have agendas regarding bret and maggie players and shoot down a guy like him before he gets a chance to prove himself.

if he was ever gonna get found out defensively last week and this week would of been it, there arent any sides with bigger outside backs and edge runners then the warriors and knights

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Post by spaceman » Sat 29 May, 2010 12:55 pm

He defensivly reads the game well and pops up in support in my opinion he has the goods on Ayshford....but I think Sheens will go with Ayshford

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Post by AmericanHistoryX » Sat 29 May, 2010 1:38 pm

G. Strombolli wrote:Daniela had what I believe they referred to in the old days as a blinder. He was great to watch.

After last night's performance, it's easy to say he offers more than Ayshford has, but I don't think he's been tested - the Warriors especially had nothing anywhere on the park. Geoff is fast and elusive but he is a little bloke - how would he go against some of the bigger centres, and there are some big ones, out there? If he holds his own, good on him - give him the spot.

dont worry we'll find out next friday night if daniella is picked because he's up against idris and morris - its fair to say that they are pretty big centres.
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Post by NEDKELLY » Sat 29 May, 2010 1:45 pm

Yes Daniella was good last night but I agree with other Posts that next week against Idris and Morris he could be made look like a Park Footballer in defence!

I am yet to be convinced of him being a regular first grader! I hope he continues to play like he did last night but if Ayshord is fit then he would get my nod!

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Post by willow » Sat 29 May, 2010 2:51 pm

I've been critical of him this year, I thought he looked very average in the trial matches with some poor reads in defence, and that has been my biggest concern with him, even against BRET a few weeks ago he didn't stand out and was pretty quiet, although the last 2 weeks in FG he has been good. I've no dramas with his attack though, he's got good pace, great agility and footwork and knows how to score a try. He shows more in attack than Ayshford, defensively I still think Ayshford is bit stronger, but Sheens is in a good position now with two players fighting it out for a centre position, plus Brown isn't doing anything wrong either, and Josh Davis is obviously thereabouts if he keeps getting named as 18th man.

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Post by Marshall_magic » Sat 29 May, 2010 3:03 pm

Daniella had an absolute blinder last night, but lets wait a few more weeks before we get too carried away with him. If he comes out next week and has a poor game (and I really hope this isn't the case, I like the kid), there'll be people here bashing the kid, and grumbling about why we bought him in the first place, how we have better options in NSW Cup etc etc etc.

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Post by Golden » Sat 29 May, 2010 3:11 pm

hes played 1 good game.. but if he plays like that all the time and tackles like he did then im happy to be wrong about him

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Post by prattenpark » Sat 29 May, 2010 3:21 pm

Daniella was good last night.

I'm so glad we have options this year. People have been bagging the quality of our off-season purchases all year, Daniella, Davis, Brown etc, fringe players unwanted by their clubs etc etc. But, this is the first time I can remember for a long time when a player out injured (Ayshford) is no certainty to slot straight back into first grade. And, we can have arguments over who if anyone should stand aside when Fulton is fit. And, when Galloway returns. And, what happens with McKinnon - does he come straight into fullback, who do we shuffle around, who misses out.

Competition for positions generally brings the best out of the players. Great for the Tigers.

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Post by Tiger Watto » Sat 29 May, 2010 3:27 pm

prattenpark wrote:Daniella was good last night.

I'm so glad we have options this year. People have been bagging the quality of our off-season purchases all year, Daniella, Davis, Brown etc, fringe players unwanted by their clubs etc etc. But, this is the first time I can remember for a long time when a player out injured (Ayshford) is no certainty to slot straight back into first grade. And, we can have arguments over who if anyone should stand aside when Fulton is fit. And, when Galloway returns. And, what happens with McKinnon - does he come straight into fullback, who do we shuffle around, who misses out.

Competition for positions generally brings the best out of the players. Great for the Tigers.
Well said..

This delema will only see all the boys competing week to week. Great for leading into the Finals...
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Post by Snake » Sat 29 May, 2010 3:30 pm

You can never have enough depth competition for majority of positions is only a good thing.

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