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Re: Pretenders

Post by hybrid_tiger » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 12:09 pm

shifty wrote: when are we going to cut silly errors, get our bench right, and not put players outta position? 2012.
Yep, when we finally get a new coach.


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Post by innsaneink » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 12:11 pm

Chris wrote:I have to agree with you in some sense Ink and also disagree. Yes, it wasn't our greatest performance and we're not playing the brand of football that will take us deep into the comp at this stage. The thing is though mate, playing great footy now wont win us the comp. How many times in previous years did we look like world beaters and get beat at the death and only to miss out on the finals by 2 points? I'd rather we get ourselves into the semis, get our full squad back bar Moltzen and Tuiaki then see how we fare. At this stage I just want us to get there and if we're in the semis to just make up the numbers I'd rather we have an early exit.

Theres quite a range from what we saw last night and 'great footy'....its a massive gulf, somewhere in between and i'd be happy.
I dont want us peaking now, but i thought we wouldnt see another soouths game this year
This season has been ruined by the storm, the comp is a shambles and some very average teams will figure in the play offs...I want us to get there by earning it, deserving it...not falling in.

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Post by Juro » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 12:17 pm

It really was a woeful performance and I am still scratching my head how we won. However, we did win and are 2 points closer to making the finals.

Form is fleeting though, so hopefully bad form is fleeting too. We will need to improve drastically if we are to be any chance of winning the comp, but that is definitely possible.

Therfore, I reckon we are still contenders. We are in a healthy position on the ladder and can turn it around in the next couple of months. We need to do a lot of work though, and I think everyone involved at the club would know that.
I've been a member since 2012. We last played finals football in 2011. Just saying...

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Post by hybrid_tiger » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 12:18 pm

Our position just shows how mediocre the standard of this competition is. It's embarrassing.

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Post by Geo. » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 12:26 pm

Ah yes the standard of the competion is crap....Off course how stupid of me...

Why bother....just cancel season 2010.....start again in 2011....

Whoever wins it this year are false champions or fluked it.....

Fair dinkum .....is there any enjoyment at all Hybrid....Innk.... :roll:
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Post by hybrid_tiger » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 12:34 pm

You seriously going to deny the standard is absolute crap? C'mon Geo, you know better than that, it's terrible.

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Post by Geo. » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 12:45 pm

Hybrid I agree mate ....it is crap....But I've watched plenty of seasons far worse than this...recently.2002,2004,2006......were all worse than this 1 IMO.....I don't care....

if you think last nights game was bad, which it was....catch the Parra/Knights game from a couple of weeks back....that was far worse...

At least we are over achieving and our brand of crap has kept me entertained all year...
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Post by Snake » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 12:49 pm

hybrid_tiger wrote:Our position just shows how mediocre the standard of this competition is. It's embarrassing.
How true is that statement ...My wife and I spoke of the same thing after the game this season is very mediocre to say the least ..once the Storm were gone that was it the bar is set very low ...I mean the way we are playing and were 3rd ????

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Post by Hbom » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 12:57 pm

Snake wrote:
hybrid_tiger wrote:Our position just shows how mediocre the standard of this competition is. It's embarrassing.
How true is that statement ...My wife and I spoke of the same thing after the game this season is very mediocre to say the least ..once the Storm were gone that was it the bar is set very low ...I mean the way we are playing and were 3rd ????
Why factor the Storm into it? Their administrators chose not to compete fairly, they get left out. Sounds fair to me.

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Post by Tigerpete » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 1:03 pm

I don't know about the standard of competition being crap this year. No doubts our position on the table is flattering because as i see it i think we've struggled to put 80 minutes together once this season. We've had pockets of good form here and there.

On last night's game. We were sluggish and lethargic overall. Our ball handling was disgraceful but credit where it's due. Our defence was top notch. Twice Brisbane could've been forgiven for thinking they'd score in that second half and twice we denied them with great last ditch efforts. As bad as we're attacking lately we're defending impressively.

As for the title of this thread. It's hard to argue. I get sick of hearing opposing fans talk us down but last night was another example of exactly why they do. We need to get more ruthless, we simply must be more clinical!

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Post by Juro » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 1:48 pm

Melbourne have won 9 from 15, just like us, not just losing the ones where they were missing their rep players, so I don't think taking them out of the comp has hurt the playing standards.
I've been a member since 2012. We last played finals football in 2011. Just saying...

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Post by innsaneink » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 2:33 pm

Geo. wrote:Ah yes the standard of the competion is crap....Off course how stupid of me...

Why bother....just cancel season 2010.....start again in 2011....

Whoever wins it this year are false champions or fluked it.....

Fair dinkum .....is there any enjoyment at all Hybrid....Innk.... :roll:
Not last night
But if you enjoy watching garbage thats your prerogative, easily pleased.
Some set the standard a little higher

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Post by crouching_tiger » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 2:37 pm

The game is falling apart at the seams..
No wonder Finch and his corrupt mob have orders to cheat to keep the games tight as possible...
And it's not gonna get much better any time soon with funds being injected elsewhere. They have sucked the NRL bone dry...
QUOTE WestsTigers:"Fitzhenry is a very experienced player and will assist in providing leadership to the younger players in the Wests Tigers squad"

QUOTE Tim Sheens:"We owe our fans an apology for that today"

QUOTE Stephen Humphreys:"it was important to secure Fifita for a longer period"

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Post by southerntiger » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 3:33 pm

We have played poorly all season. The comp is a bit low on standards. This Dragons team is one of the poorest minor premiership contenders I have ever seen. They should have scored 80 against us last week we were that poor.

What is amazing me is that our defence is pretty shoddy (missed tackles, not going up in a line, giving easy metres each tackle) yet teams struggle to score at us. I must admit that our scrmabling defence has been pretty impressive.

My old man (not a Tigers supporter) reckons that we are playing too shallow in attack. I am starting to think he may be right because our players tend to have no time with the ball - hence you get the crappy hand offs to a player standing still.
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Post by Geo. » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 3:41 pm

innsaneink wrote: Not last night
But if you enjoy watching garbage thats your prerogative, easily pleased.
Some set the standard a little higher
Of couse I have high Standards innk....I'm a Wests/Wests Tigers supporter.....

I enjoy watching every win.....Not a fan of quoting Gus...but the football God shined right up our backside for once....

You could have changed the channel....whenever you wanted.... ;)
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Post by TIGER » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 6:24 pm

innsaneink wrote:Our position does not reflect our play, our team, our football. It reflects the state of the competition i guess to an extent....

Its false.

If the Broncos had their big three we'd have been slaughtered...it wouldve been another souths game.

Corey parker MotM.
Man that team song was vey embarrassing...
Agree totally, the fact were 3rd after not really playing our best at any stage this year says there are so many ordinary sides this season, in fact so far it's probably the worst season quality wise for some time.

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Post by daslacker » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 7:23 pm

I find it hard to disagree with ink.I'm happy for the win/wins,but far from impressed.

The standard of the NRL is inferior in comparison to previous seasons.Hard to believe with what
i've seen this year we're 3rd (atm) on the ladder.We are though,so from that standpoint i'm happy
to be there but don't see it as a true reflection.As Ron said ironic we'll make the 8 given the worst
we've played in 4 years.

I find it hard to argue that at this point we aren't pretenders.I've been waiting for us to shift up a
gear this year and play at a standard are/were capable of.The one out play in the forwards,that lack
of an enthusiastic kick chase and the lack of point scoring abilties.I'm sure the coaching staff have
addressed this though...hmmm lol

It's debatable my/our opinion on the coaching staff.In the past we've lost by small margins and subsequently
missed the final series.There has been alot of talk this year about "Grinding out the win".We're 3rd on
the ladder and winning the close ones.Maybe their right and i'm wrong.We're winning ugly with low patches
brilliance.Even our forwards have looked out played in every facet and we've won.Here was me thinking
we were getting run down because our forwards were exhausted from a preempt bench rotation.

I thought with Flokes on board we'd see our bench bolstered,higher fitness levels (which maybe the case),
more decoy running around the ruck (to give Farah options,forwards not isloated hitting it up and give the
halves space without the need of depth),a bench rotation based of the relevance of the game..hmmm even
2 props and 2 backrowers on the bench....no backs...and let Sheens work more work more on what we used
to do best....score points.Our general kicking and kick chase has always been a sore point with me..thought
with Flokes that would've improved also..

Sheens had some great tactics in '05 and we left teams at a stand still with our attack.It's now pale in
comparison and finals will be here soon.

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Post by Dallas Field Goal » Sat 03 Jul, 2010 8:54 pm

I watched the game at a party last night. TV was on in the corner with no sound. While we were error prone when in possession I thought our win showed courage. We tackled hard and with desperation. We played mostly in our own half but took our chances when they came along. We were dudded by the refs. A compulsory penalty from the opening kickoff and then no more penalties until after the seventy minute mark while the Broncs received 6 straight. We played a solid team who we have a poor record against at an unfriendly venue in conditions that don't suit our style of play....and still prevailed.

Watched the replay today and listened to the ramblings of Gus and co. trying to tell me what to think. Seemed like a different game with them constantly bagging the Tigers.

Gus must have done his dough with TAB Sportsbet. He looked like he was sucking lemons after the game.

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