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Post by Tiger Watto » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 3:04 pm

Agreed...

The last 2 weeks Sauce is improving nicely. Another 2 solid games and I wouldn't be surprised to see Keith bending the line on a regular occasion.

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Post by citizen cub » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 3:05 pm

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citizen cub wrote:The fact that he has IMPACT is something new to the club, sure, he's not the fittest, but I'd take him any day of the week before the likes of Galloway and Flanagan. Plus, the only way he's going to get fitter is through match practice. Demoting him to NSW cup is going to do his fitness and confidence no good. Giving him 10 minutes a match would probably be more effective than giving useless twats Galloway 50 minutes.
Wrong....Fifita was a liability against Manly and offered little impact..We leeked points at that crucial time in the 1st half when he came on...the ruck fell apart..Galloway was our best...

Time in State Cup is what Fifta needs....plenty of time to get himself right for the finals...

Galloway has been warming to the task nicely....great game against the Sharks as well...


'great game against the Sharks as well'? Pffffttt....Shows no desperation, doesn't have any aggression, looks like he's disinterested every match. We need to start bringing in the young guys and we need to move on with blokes who haven't performed, but under this impostor who calls himself the coach, nothing will change.
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Post by Geo. » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 3:11 pm

Which Citizen is this?

Have you heard of Farah. Lawrence, Marshall, Fulton, Gibbs, Heighington, Ayshford, Dwyer, Payten and Lui...All players Sheens has brought into first grade...

Sheens knows what he is doing with Fifita...

You gave Galloway Man of the match against Manly...

He was up against Snowden. Douglas Tupou and Gallen...He went forward especially in the first half....In the second he pulled off 2 crucial tackles on our line....
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Post by smeghead » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 3:27 pm

As well as that he covered the inside gate alot and made some good tackles there.\

A thing that Fifita doesn't yet do and that a younger Galloway never did
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Post by senexx » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 3:28 pm

I want to know why everyone keeps insisting on Moors. He's had one, ONE decent game. And that was only after persisting with him
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Post by Tiger Watto » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 3:31 pm

After watching Moors tear up Balmain 2/3 weeks ago, Id like to see him back over Flanagan?
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Post by Citizen Tiger » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 4:07 pm

Geo. wrote:
citizen cub wrote:The fact that he has IMPACT is something new to the club, sure, he's not the fittest, but I'd take him any day of the week before the likes of Galloway and Flanagan. Plus, the only way he's going to get fitter is through match practice. Demoting him to NSW cup is going to do his fitness and confidence no good. Giving him 10 minutes a match would probably be more effective than giving useless twats Galloway 50 minutes.
Wrong....Fifita was a liability against Manly and offered little impact..We leeked points at that crucial time in the 1st half when he came on...the ruck fell apart..Galloway was our best...

Time in State Cup is what Fifta needs....plenty of time to get himself right for the finals...

Galloway has been warming to the task nicely....great game against the Sharks as well...

Any suggestion that Galloway somehow made a notable contribution last night is quite simply ludicrous. He was awful, I have not seen the stats but I don't need to, I cringed every time he took the ball forward. I have never seen a bloke so blessed with physical attributes, apply them so infrequently. I can cope with Gibbs because he's wholehearted, but it's time for Galloway to evaporate to State Cup, or to another club. I don't care if Fifita has a Gold Pass to McDonalds, he's talented, promotes second phase, hits the line hard for someone of his age and experience and has what we lacked last night.....aggression.

The Sharks manhandled our pack last night, they made easy metres in both channels, with simple direct running. We do not have anyone capable of doing that apart from Ellis and Heighington. You can only ask back rowers to do so much. Forward movement more often than not was dispensed with as the ball went wide much earlier than it should have.

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Post by simonthetiger » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 5:30 pm

Im a big Suace fan but I thought he got owned last night.

Snowden towelled him.

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Post by citizen cub » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 5:30 pm

Geo. wrote:Which Citizen is this?

Have you heard of Farah. Lawrence, Marshall, Fulton, Gibbs, Heighington, Ayshford, Dwyer, Payten and Lui...All players Sheens has brought into first grade...

Sheens knows what he is doing with Fifita...

You gave Galloway Man of the match against Manly...

He was up against Snowden. Douglas Tupou and Gallen...He went forward especially in the first half....In the second he pulled off 2 crucial tackles on our line....


CC this is, I gave Galloway MOM against Manly because he genuinely had a good game, but then he went back to bad habits straight away. Consistency is another issue, performing well in one game is all very well, but you need to back that up with another 1/2 good games. He didn't, I was expecting big things from him and not only did he not deliver, he was terrible. And last night was the perfect match to play himself into form, against an ordinary team and in wet conditions which definitely suited the fowards. I'm not doubting he's a solid defender, but he's the biggest foward we have at the club and with such a big physical structure, he should be making more metres.
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Post by Geo. » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 5:40 pm

Galoway...43 mins 28 tackles 0 missed 0 errors 1 offload 1 penalty 10 hitups 78m

Douglas ...59 min 32 tackles 3 missed 2 errors 0 offloads 8 hitups 74 m
Snowden ...54 min 22 tackles 3 missed 0 errors 0 offloads 2 penalties 11 hitups 103m

Snowden was the best Prop but Hardly owned simon...
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..

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Post by ron burgandy » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 5:58 pm

Geo. wrote:Galoway...43 mins 28 tackles 0 missed 0 errors 1 offload 1 penalty 10 hitups 78m

Douglas ...59 min 32 tackles 3 missed 2 errors 0 offloads 8 hitups 74 m
Snowden ...54 min 22 tackles 3 missed 0 errors 0 offloads 2 penalties 11 hitups 103m

Snowden was the best Prop but Hardly owned simon...

snowdens MPR is very good 9.36
douglas MPR is very good 9.25
keiths MPR is 7.8

and besides that its the way they hit the line compared to galloway.....

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Post by supercoach » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 6:14 pm

Iam with Geo, Fifita's form has dropped off and really thats to be expected from a young kid playing in his first year in the NRL and needs to do miles of fitness work between now and September if he expects a start in the top grade

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Post by izotope » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 6:29 pm

moors wasnt picked for 3 weeks before he got injured.. its a joke.

Need some big boppas hitting the line. Galloway as impact, i really can't see him been a worker like gibbs.
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Post by willow » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 6:51 pm

Geo. wrote:
citizen cub wrote:The fact that he has IMPACT is something new to the club, sure, he's not the fittest, but I'd take him any day of the week before the likes of Galloway and Flanagan. Plus, the only way he's going to get fitter is through match practice. Demoting him to NSW cup is going to do his fitness and confidence no good. Giving him 10 minutes a match would probably be more effective than giving useless twats Galloway 50 minutes.
Wrong....Fifita was a liability against Manly and offered little impact..We leeked points at that crucial time in the 1st half when he came on...the ruck fell apart..Galloway was our best...

Time in State Cup is what Fifta needs....plenty of time to get himself right for the finals...

Galloway has been warming to the task nicely....great game against the Sharks as well...
Very wrong indeed. 10 minutes in FG will do nothing for his fitness. 60 minutes in State Cup will. Fifita is carrying too much pudding around the middle, it takes 30 minutes of aerobic activity before the body starts to burn fat, therefore he can afford to play longer in State Cup where he's nowhere near as likely to be exposed as he has been in FG in defence.

As for calling Galloway useless, you've already shown you have no idea about the Tigers forward pack, it would be funny to see Galloway scrape you off his shoe if he ever ran at you.

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Post by ron burgandy » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 7:05 pm

well willow we arent FG footballers so he most likely would trample us common folk.....truth is galloway gets dominated more often then not....he is one of the bigger props going around but doesnt use his size good enough.....he will never be a dominating prop with his current attiude

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Post by willow » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 7:12 pm

ron burgandy wrote:well willow we arent FG footballers so he most likely would trample us common folk.....truth is galloway gets dominated more often then not....he is one of the bigger props going around but doesnt use his size good enough.....he will never be a dominating prop with his current attiude
He's tall ron, and quite lean. At 107kg there are a few front rowers bigger than Keith. Fact is, Cronulla got off their line well and slowed the Tigers down at the ruck very well. Fifita scored 2 tries for Wests yesterday but watching the video of the game, you can see his defensive issues in State Cup, he would have been exposed last night and wouldn't have had the motor to make more metres than Keith last night, that i am certain of. If he gets his shape and condition in order then by all means bring him back, but at the moment he's too sluggish out there and has too many poor defensive reads in him.

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Post by bbobb » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 7:27 pm

He's tall ron, and quite lean. At 107kg there are a few front rowers bigger than Keith. Fact is, Cronulla got off their line well and slowed the Tigers down at the ruck very well. Fifita scored 2 tries for Wests yesterday but watching the video of the game, you can see his defensive issues in State Cup, he would have been exposed last night and wouldn't have had the motor to make more metres than Keith last night, that i am certain of. If he gets his shape and condition in order then by all means bring him back, but at the moment he's too sluggish out there and has too many poor defensive reads in him
Well said - hence Skandos re-appearence. He was never a huge "metre eater" but was always solid around the ruck in defence. While it was a little desparate on behalf of Sheens, I think it highlights how much more development Fifita has in front of him.

I will say one thing about KG - he does not seem to hit the line with any real intensity although there was one hit-up int he second half that he really motored and made good ground so he obviously has the ability.

I was thinking though that all our frowards play quite shallow - I really couldn't say anybody hits the line at speed. Are they coached to do this for some reason? Does it lead to quicker play the balls or something?

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Post by citizen cub » Sun 01 Aug, 2010 7:50 pm

willow wrote:
Geo. wrote:
citizen cub wrote:The fact that he has IMPACT is something new to the club, sure, he's not the fittest, but I'd take him any day of the week before the likes of Galloway and Flanagan. Plus, the only way he's going to get fitter is through match practice. Demoting him to NSW cup is going to do his fitness and confidence no good. Giving him 10 minutes a match would probably be more effective than giving useless twats Galloway 50 minutes.
Wrong....Fifita was a liability against Manly and offered little impact..We leeked points at that crucial time in the 1st half when he came on...the ruck fell apart..Galloway was our best...

Time in State Cup is what Fifta needs....plenty of time to get himself right for the finals...

Galloway has been warming to the task nicely....great game against the Sharks as well...
Very wrong indeed. 10 minutes in FG will do nothing for his fitness. 60 minutes in State Cup will. Fifita is carrying too much pudding around the middle, it takes 30 minutes of aerobic activity before the body starts to burn fat, therefore he can afford to play longer in State Cup where he's nowhere near as likely to be exposed as he has been in FG in defence.

As for calling Galloway useless, you've already shown you have no idea about the Tigers forward pack, it would be funny to see Galloway scrape you off his shoe if he ever ran at you.


HA HA trying to scare me are you? WTF DO I have to do with NRL!!! That's totally irrelevant to the fact that Galloway is a softie! Mate, saying s*** like 'we don't get out-muscled in the pack every week, your just being naive' shows how much you know about the foward pack. As for making remarks about Fifita's weight and saying 'if he turns left and sees a KFC outlet he puts on kilos' shows what a great supporter you are of the youth and talents we've got at the Tigers. Lol, the ONE prop who actually has some aggression you bag out (behind your keyboard as well, I've stated my opinion about Galloway but I haven't personally attacked him), and to think these comments are coming from the MODERATOR makes you look like an even bigger fool. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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