THE scrum with 28 sec's left

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Re: THE scrum with 28 sec's left

Post by tiger tigers » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 9:53 pm

tigh wrote:OMG. Learn the rules. It aint clutching at straws.

A PROP CAN NOT JUMP ON THE BALL FROM THE SCRUM. He is offside.

STOP BAGGING HEIGHNO. He was trying to allow the ball to remain in the scrum - stupidly I might add - he should have bloody picked it up. But that doesn't take way from the fact that it was A PENALTY!

THE ROOSTERS PROP WAS OFFSIDE AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN PENALISED. LEARN THE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No apologies for shouting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah i agree lay off heighno ... but i think once the ball has passed the second rowers its open to play .....


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Post by Marshall_magic » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 9:54 pm

tigergirlz wrote:And Lote held off the ball was a penalty too......!!!!!!! And Benji's punch had no effect on the Ellis try.......and so on and so on.
Would've been a Roosters scrum. Lote knocked the ball down, ref should've called it no advantage.

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Post by tigh » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 9:55 pm

hybrid_tiger wrote:He should have dived on it...he stood there watching it.
From an opinion point if view - YES. I agree.

From a rule book point of view - PENALTY Tigers.

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Post by mike » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 10:03 pm

tigh wrote:
hybrid_tiger wrote:He should have dived on it...he stood there watching it.
From an opinion point if view - YES. I agree.

From a rule book point of view - PENALTY Tigers.
Sorry but once it passes by the second row it is play on. BH said that on Talkin' Sport only a week or so ago.
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Post by glebe_tiger » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 10:20 pm

The finals are worse than origin, the refs forget to bring their whistles to the game. I'm fuming with the refs after this game. Ok we bombed heaps of tries but the refs did nothing for us, politis paid the refs.


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Post by Illek » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 10:23 pm

I don't think we should be blaming the refs or anyone in this situation, we had the game done, all he needed to do was pick the ball up. He may have played a great game but he simply lost it for us with that one action. It was the worst moment I've seen in football in a long time by a tigers player, was simply horrible.

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Post by tigh » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 10:54 pm

mike wrote:
tigh wrote:
hybrid_tiger wrote:He should have dived on it...he stood there watching it.
From an opinion point if view - YES. I agree.

From a rule book point of view - PENALTY Tigers.
Sorry but once it passes by the second row it is play on. BH said that on Talkin' Sport only a week or so ago.
For gods sake - don't quote the rules if you do't know them.

Just as a half back must retire - so too must a player involved in the scrum. End of story. Penalty Tigers.

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Post by seadoggy » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 10:57 pm

why are we putting a srum move on with 40 seconds to go and in front by one ..... why didn't the half back just pick the ball up and run with it, then 4 more dummy half runs with slow play the balls ..... therein lies the exact reason we threw that game away .... but a terrific effort from the boys none the less

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Post by innsaneink » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 10:59 pm

Im sure you'll find the rule states a half must also feed the scrum into the tunnel formed between the two front rows.
Scrum rules.....like telegrams and b & w TV....history.

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Post by unforgiven » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:01 pm

We should have picked up the ball from the scrum, but what annoys me is it shouldnt have been sa scrum in the 1st place. Dywer picked up the ball after the knock on so it should have been play on.

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Post by unforgiven » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:02 pm

though we should have picked up the ball so we really have no excuses

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Post by Illek » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:03 pm

You probably are right regarding the rules, but realistically we shouldn't have needed that penalty. Any park footballer would have just grabbed that ball straight away, instead he didn't. It was a shame that Heighno ruined his stellar performance with that one moment, and I don't think anyone on the forum can claim he didn't cost us that match. Honestly we are the only team that I can think of that can loose it from that situation.

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Post by dacoots_tiger » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:04 pm

If Shannon Noll was in my lounge room singing You Gotta Lift, it still wouldnt get me off the floor so i can only begin to imagine how the players must be feeling. I thought we had survived at that point and deservedly so. I still cant believe what then took place ....
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Post by smoza » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:08 pm

Not sure if it has been mentioned, but why was it a scrum? Dwyer put a hit on, Roosters lost the ball, Dwyer picked it up and started running? Haven't seen a replay yet, but that's how it looked live? We still should've won the scrum, but then it should have been a penatly there.

Apart from that, massive effort from the boys tonight, gutted with the result, proud of the performance (99% anyway). How good did Blake go? + Lui etc.

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Post by supercoach » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:12 pm

Tigers once again prove you can snatch a loss from the jaws of victory if you put your mind to it. For a team that has plenty of experience they make brain dad plays time and time again. We should have won by 20 and had every team shaking in their boots, we ended up going belly up and now most teams left would think we are soft. Goal kicking was also a thing that was always going to bite us

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Post by prattenpark » Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:22 pm

Gutted.
Heighno should have just fallen on it. I can't see how there should have been a penalty, but i only saw the scrum live and am yet to see a replay. From where I was sitting, the ball was clear of the scrum and therefore the scrum can break and anyone fall on it. Not quite sure what Heighno was thinking but he seemed to have an eternity.
But, you can't say he lost us the game. He had a great game but for that one incredible lapse. It's a team game though. We really should never have been in that spot. Sure, he falls on it we would have won. But, we also would have won had Benji not being pinged for hitting Pearce and Ellis' try awarded, had B kicked one more goal, had Ayshford got the ball down for a try in the first half, Ellis as well, had we played for a field goal in extra time having one a scrum 25 metres out from their line.
The football gods can be cruel sometimes. Tonight, they were sick and sadistic to us Tigers fans. Ask Anasta to kick that field goal again from that position and he miss 9 times out of 10. The football gods might have one sick twist in store and somehow get the sea eagles across the line tomorrow and knock us out in week one. Part of me thinks that might not be a bad end to our season. I fear going to Canberra next weekend, a wounded team, both mentally and physically. No Benji, no Ellis, no Fulton is a real possibility.

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Post by mike » Sun 12 Sep, 2010 12:00 am

tigh wrote:
mike wrote: Sorry but once it passes by the second row it is play on. BH said that on Talkin' Sport only a week or so ago.
For gods sake - don't quote the rules if you do't know them.

Just as a half back must retire - so too must a player involved in the scrum. End of story. Penalty Tigers.
I was not quoting the rules just what BH had said in relation to when the ball has left the scrum.
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Post by Swanny » Sun 12 Sep, 2010 12:01 am

Where was the penalty to us in that last scrum! not making excuses but they call the scrum backs all the time for the smallest problems yet they don't call that one. No idea what chris was doing staring at it but we should have straight up got a penalty if the refs wernt to scared to make big calls.

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