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Brisbane's right edge too sharp for us, says Sheens

Post by willow » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 10:33 am

Brisbane's right edge too sharp for us, says Sheens
Greg Prichard - SMH
April 23, 2011

WESTS TIGERS weren't making any excuses about what happened to them last night. Instead, they made admissions: that they conceded soft tries, were bent backwards by the opposition forwards, had brain explosions, gave Broncos captain Darren Lockyer too much latitude, didn't compete hard enough in the rucks, and have a lot of work to do.

''We talked about winning the second half and we did that [and] got ourselves back into the game, but we were just continually playing from our own end all night,'' Tigers coach Tim Sheens said. ''They won the battle of the field position, so all the ball we got was mainly deep in our half - in the first half - and it was hard working out. Our kicking game under pressure didn't fire where we wanted it to go, so we played a lot of our football under pressure.

''We gave Lockyer too many shots at us near the line, and that's always going to hurt you. We had our chances but a couple of brain explosions and a couple of issues there that might have kept us in the game [had decisions gone their way], and those sort of things come back to bite you.

''Their right edge is a big, strong edge, and they worked us over. No excuses - the blokes missed tackles they shouldn't have. They really drove through the middle of us, and although they didn't make too many line breaks, they just bent us, and bent us, and bent us, and they were starting their sets 30 or 40 metres off their line. That made it easy for their forwards, and we didn't really turn them around.

''The penalties we got, we weren't really effective from them. They didn't turn over much ball and give us many opportunities. When they did, we scored. They were pretty frugal with the ball in their own half.''

Unless the Broncos make the finals and play a game at the SFS, last night's encounter was Lockyer's last appearance at the ground. If it was, he went out in fine style, scoring a 68th-minute try that put the game out of reach for the Tigers. Brisbane second-rower Sam Thaiday, one of those right-edge players Sheens was talking about, was man-of-the-match - mainly because of his destructive efforts in attack. ''We knew that the ruck was an important battle tonight, and they just went through us,'' Tigers captain Robbie Farah said.

''Their right edge - we made them look like superstars. They were going 100 metres in a set, and Lockyer and [Peter] Wallace were putting up attacking kicks. It was a tough first half, and at half-time, the boys, there wasn't much said. Everyone was pretty disappointed, heads were down, but I guess the pleasing thing is the first 20 minutes of the second half we did give ourselves a chance.

''But it was too much of a head-start. You can't give a side like Brisbane 19 points start. Our first half wasn't good enough, some really soft tries and you can't do that, you can't give away easy points against a quality side. We've got a lot of things to work on. They were bending us in the middle 20 minutes of the first half.

''We're not there at the moment. We've got some work to do, and we've got a tough road trip to Canberra next week, but we'll knuckle down. We'll work hard. We've got to bounce back."

Asked for his view on the Broncos, who have made a stunning start to the season with six wins from seven games, Farah replied: ''I don't care about the Broncos. I'm just worried about us.''


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Post by willow » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 10:34 am

Lockyer magic too much for Tigers
Steve Jancetic
April 22, 2011 - 11:39PM

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Darren Lockyer turned Good Friday into a great one for Brisbane as the veteran superstar led the Broncos to a 31-18 win over the Wests Tigers at the Sydney Football Stadium.

In what could be his last visit to a venue he has dominated for Brisbane, Queensland and Australia, Lockyer toyed with the Tigers as the Broncos showed there was plenty of attack to go with their impregnable defence.

Four first-half tries had seemingly got Brisbane home, but when the home side got back within seven points with 28 minutes left to go, Lockyer asserted his authority like only Lockyer can.

He ducked down a short blind side from a scrum win to seal the Broncos' sixth win from seven games.

What was billed as potentially the final NRL clash between the retiring Lockyer and Benji Marshall turned into a non-event as the old master dominated - Marshall hardly sighted in an uninspired performance.

While the Broncos started well, there was little evidence of the avalanche that was about to ensue when a high-flying Jharal Yow Yeh left a stranded Tim Moltzen looking like a lamp post to kick-start proceedings.

Alex Glenn then did just enough to reach the line before Sam Thaiday threw off Benji Marshall in a powerful run to cross the tryline and cap an 18-point spree in the space of eight minutes.

A Jack Reed fumble inside his own 20 then allowed Robert Lui to set Moltzen on the way for his first of the night and it seemed as though the Tigers had regrouped.

But any momentum they may have seized evaporated when a Beau Ryan clanger - coughing up the ball on his own line - gifted Peter Wallace another Broncos touchdown before Lockyer added a field goal to cap a dominant first half.

Amazingly against a Broncos side which had conceded just one second half try all year, the Tigers were back in the contest within 15 minutes of the restart thanks to four-pointers to Lui and Moltzen, Lockyer livid at the referees for ignoring his claims of an obstruction in the lead-up to the latter.

Lockyer's protests had nothing on the urgings of the Tigers faithful in the 19,494-strong crowd, whose voices grew as the points piled up on the scoreboard, but there was no denying the Broncos master, who crossed 12 minutes from time.

Tigers coach Tim Sheens conceded his side simply gave the Broncos too many opportunities to put points on the board.

"We played a lot of football under pressure, we gave Lockyer too many shots at us near the line, that's always going to hurt you," Sheens said.

"They worked us over, no excuses - blokes missed tackles they shouldn't have missed

"They just bent us and bent us and bent us - they were starting sets 30 metres off their own line most of the night, it made it easy for their forwards."

While pleased with the way his side regrouped, Broncos coach Anthony Griffin wasn't overly happy with the way his side let the Tigers back into the contest.

"I thought we were loose - particularly when Lui scored," Griffin said.

"That's something we haven't conceded this year is soft points ... they were coming to get us at that stage ... Locky's play was a big play for us."

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Post by willow » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 11:17 am

WESTS TIGERS LOSE 31-18 TO BRISBANE AT SFS
By Wayne Cousins, SFS
22/04/2011 9:23:01 PM

Wests Tigers suffered a 31-18 loss to Brisbane Broncos tonight at the Sydney Football Stadium in round 7 of the Telstra Premiership.

It was the first back-to-back loss for Wests Tigers this season and leaves the side on six points with three wins from 7 matches.

The match marked Captain Robbie Farah’s 150th game for Wests Tigers and second-rower Gareth Ellis’ 50th for the Club. Blake Ayshford played left centre to mark up against Justin Hodges.

Wests Tigers lost full-back Wade McKinnon after he failed to overcome a hamstring injury. Head Coach Tim Sheens moved Tim Moltzen from half-back to full-back. Robert Lui started at half-back after overcoming an ankle injury.

The Broncos opened the scoring in the 21st minute when a towering bomb by five-eighth Darren Lockyer saw left winger Jharal Yow Yeh leapt high above full-back Tim Moltzen to take the ball to score. Lock Corey Parker converted the try for a 6-0 lead.

Referee Brett Suttor awarded a try on ‘Ref’s Call’ in the 23rd minute when he ruled Alex Glenn grounded the ball over the line despite appearing to be held up by Moltzen and second-rower Simon Dwyer. The decision angered the Wests Tigers faithful. Parker converted the try to give the Broncos a 12-0 lead.

The Broncos went to a 16-0 lead in the 28th minute when prop Sam Thaiday brushed off the attempted tackles of Ayshford, Benji Marshall and Moltzen to score on the last tackle. Parker converted the try for an 18-0 lead after the ball bounced off the right upright and went over.

Wests Tigers’ first real shot at the Broncos defence came in the 33rd minute and produced a try to Moltzen after he ran off a lovely inside pass by half-back Robert Lui to score next to the posts. Marshall converted the try to leave Wests Tigers trailing 18-6 after 34 minutes.

A strong hit on winger Beau Ryan by Glenn saw the ball pop loose metres from his tryline only for half-back Peter Wallace to pick it up to dive over to score in the 37th minute. Ryan was returning a clearing kick. Parker converted the try for a 24-6 lead after 38 minutes.

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Lui got the Wests Tigers off to the ideal start in the 47th minute when he slammed the ball down under the posts with his right hand from dummy half. Marshall converted the try to leave Wests Tigers trailing 25-12.

Moltzen grabbed his second try in the 52nd minute when Lui kept the ball alive before offloading to Farah who found the full-back. Moltzen had numbers to his left but threw a dummy to cross the tryline and bring the ball around closer to the posts. Marshall converted the try to leave Wests Tigers trailing 25-18 with 26 minutes remaining.

Referee Tony Archer called on the video referee to see whether Ryan had scored from a Lui grubber kick in the 64th minute. Replays showed he didn’t ground the ball.

The Broncos stretched their lead to 11 points in the 69th minute when Lockyer sliced past Marshall to score from a scrum win. Parker converted the try for a 31-18 lead.

The score remained that way until full-time. Wests Tigers will play Canberra at Canberra Stadium next Sunday.

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Post by Tigerdave » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 4:44 pm

I thought was more our poor defence that made their attack look better than what it really was

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Post by cunno » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 5:00 pm

100% right about the Broncs right edge attack, they gave us heaps, Thaiday, Hodges, YowYew (or something similar). The Broncs forwards seemed to be stronger and more powerful being difficult to bring down, it is becoming evident that we need the bloke from Melbourne to add some starch to our pack. What was the go with Lockyer's try? at that scrum they had 3 players lined up on their right side and we had Utai defending by himself??? What about the penalty milked by Hodges in the 70 minute, tackled by Marshall, Benji pulled his arm out from around the ball to get off Hodges, a second or two passes then Hoidges magically lets go of the ball and Benji is penalised. Nice work Hodges you conned the ref and wasn't he giving Benji sly looks when he got up.


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Post by TIGER » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 7:45 pm

It was more than just the right edge Sheens! we were out played all over the park, they played faster ran harder and tackled like they wanted the win, we didn't. We were way off the pace all night.

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Post by happy tiger » Sat 23 Apr, 2011 8:06 pm

cunno wrote:100% right about the Broncs right edge attack, they gave us heaps, Thaiday, Hodges, YowYew (or something similar). The Broncs forwards seemed to be stronger and more powerful being difficult to bring down, it is becoming evident that we need the bloke from Melbourne to add some starch to our pack. What was the go with Lockyer's try? at that scrum they had 3 players lined up on their right side and we had Utai defending by himself??? What about the penalty milked by Hodges in the 70 minute, tackled by Marshall, Benji pulled his arm out from around the ball to get off Hodges, a second or two passes then Hoidges magically lets go of the ball and Benji is penalised. Nice work Hodges you conned the ref and wasn't he giving Benji sly looks when he got up.
x2 Cunno Unfortunately that bloke from Melbourne can't help us now

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Post by cunno » Mon 25 Apr, 2011 4:58 pm

Unfortunately you are right in the short term HT looks like our current crop will have to lift and lift big time to emulate what they achieved last year, can they do it???

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