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Re: on ya bike mckinnon

Post by innsaneink » Sun 29 May, 2011 7:39 pm

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tiger05 wrote:I don't think McKinnon would have looked anywhere near as good as Moltzen did today.
:lol: I absolutely CAN NOT agree with that comment. Wades defense alone would have made him more valuable today.

However I do agree with others in saying that he has broken down again, has signed elsewhere and maybe should be granted a release so that we can get our fullback (not Moltzen), sorted out.
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Post by Moh » Sun 29 May, 2011 7:49 pm

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MacDougall wrote:Moltzen can play fullback for the rest of the year. He'll come good. He has the makings of a great fullback just needs to get positioning and catching together. He's one of the best attacking fullbacks in the comp imo. Just bash the living Jesus out of him at training under the high ball and he'll get the hang of it quick smart.
Yep and he proved it today. He is a great attacking player and looked our most dangerous outside back today. We need him in the team. All he needs is time.

I don't think McKinnon would have looked anywhere near as good as Moltzen did today.
Seriously.. these two posts :lol: Gold.

What are you guys watching? The guy doesn't put his body on the line. He's a 5/8. Nothing more.

I'm only willing to give him a chance at fullback after a full off-season of specialist training. And he'll have to have the balls to throw his body into everything. I understand he's coming back from an injury, and that might very well be the reason, but right now he shouldn't be anything but a utility. Pref playing state cup to get some confidence.

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Post by willow » Sun 29 May, 2011 7:50 pm

tiger05 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Moltzen can play fullback for the rest of the year. He'll come good. He has the makings of a great fullback just needs to get positioning and catching together. He's one of the best attacking fullbacks in the comp imo. Just bash the living Jesus out of him at training under the high ball and he'll get the hang of it quick smart.
Yep and he proved it today. He is a great attacking player and looked our most dangerous outside back today. We need him in the team. All he needs is time.

I don't think McKinnon would have looked anywhere near as good as Moltzen did today.
No, he would have looked better going on his current form.

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Post by MightyMaggy » Sun 29 May, 2011 8:03 pm

MacDougall wrote:Moltzen can play fullback for the rest of the year. He'll come good. He has the makings of a great fullback just needs to get positioning and catching together. He's one of the best attacking fullbacks in the comp imo. Just bash the living Jesus out of him at training under the high ball and he'll get the hang of it quick smart.
He might be 60, before he gets his positioning and catching right. If he has not learnt to catch a ball at his age, how long are we going to watse time "teaching" him if that's possible?

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Post by hybrid_tiger » Sun 29 May, 2011 11:26 pm

People saying Moltzen was great in attack - where was his support play? Non-existant.


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Post by hooker » Sun 29 May, 2011 11:40 pm

wade is our FB for this season when fit.
he is as safe as drugs out there.
2nd is M. brown surely. He is a FB.

Moltz is good and i hope we find a place for him before we lose him. but i do not think he is before MB at the back.
And that being said said MB is wasted/helpless in the centres and wing. He is a full back.

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Post by Goose » Mon 30 May, 2011 4:56 pm

biggest tigers fan wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Moltzen can play fullback for the rest of the year. He'll come good. He has the makings of a great fullback just needs to get positioning and catching together. He's one of the best attacking fullbacks in the comp imo. Just bash the living Jesus out of him at training under the high ball and he'll get the hang of it quick smart.
hmm ive never seen glimpses of moltzen being an attacking.He'd be flat out cracking open a pinata
well he made a line break yesterday, had 7 tackle breaks (only Rhino did better from either side) and scored a try..... thats just yesterday.

Those that think Moltzen can't play and is a cat etc look at Bonstokers highlight package of moltzen, he is a very good player coming back from an injury....

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Post by fergiefurr » Mon 30 May, 2011 5:21 pm

Mckinnons hammy is getting very frustrating however every time he has taken the field for us he has been brilliant.

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 30 May, 2011 5:22 pm

MacKinnon 1st choice , Brown 2nd choice, Ryan 3rd choice, Meaney 4th choice ,5th Mullaney, 6th Moltzen .Why do people think because you scored a try that means you have played well :crazy

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Post by Goose » Mon 30 May, 2011 5:30 pm

happy tiger wrote:MacKinnon 1st choice , Brown 2nd choice, Ryan 3rd choice, Meaney 4th choice ,5th Mullaney, 6th Moltzen .Why do people think because you scored a try that means you have played well :crazy
Happy, if moltz played like billy slater, Grahem Langlands and Gary Belcher rolled into 1, you'd still say he was rubbish, moltz had a good game at fullback, and has had many good games there....

not only did he score a try, he made a line break, broke 7 tackles, made a try saver on morris in the corner and ran the ball back reasonably well.

He was not brillant but he went ok, especially considering he spent the warm up at centre, difficult to prepare with that preparation.

do yourself a favour, grab a few games at randon from 2009 and the frst 5 of 2010, and remind yourself what a class player he is and why he was a Junior Kangaroo, and touted by some last year as an origin bolter.

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 30 May, 2011 5:38 pm

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happy tiger wrote:MacKinnon 1st choice , Brown 2nd choice, Ryan 3rd choice, Meaney 4th choice ,5th Mullaney, 6th Moltzen .Why do people think because you scored a try that means you have played well :crazy
Happy, if moltz played like billy slater, Grahem Langlands and Gary Belcher rolled into 1, you'd still say he was rubbish, moltz had a good game at fullback, and has had many good games there....

not only did he score a try, he made a line break, broke 7 tackles, made a try saver on morris in the corner and ran the ball back reasonably well.

He was not brillant but he went ok, especially considering he spent the warm up at centre, difficult to prepare with that preparation.

do yourself a favour, grab a few games at randon from 2009 and the frst 5 of 2010, and remind yourself what a class player he is and why he was a Junior Kangaroo, and touted by some last year as an origin bolter.

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I just rechecked the calendar Goose and its 2011 mate and what happened 2009 means nothing . I have issues with the fact he is still affected by his knee and he is way behind MacKinnon form wise , and Brown at least ( a few of the others were being mocking) . We need to worry about now ,not 2012 or 2009 and with MacKinnon possibly out for extended period Brown is the next best option at the moment . Sorry we are at a crucial part of the season and we can't afford to take risks with Moltzen now .Sorry forgot to add in Moltzen favour that was his best game at fullback so far , but was still nothing compared to MacKinnon

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Post by biggest tigers fan » Mon 30 May, 2011 5:50 pm

Goose wrote:
happy tiger wrote:MacKinnon 1st choice , Brown 2nd choice, Ryan 3rd choice, Meaney 4th choice ,5th Mullaney, 6th Moltzen .Why do people think because you scored a try that means you have played well :crazy
Happy, if moltz played like billy slater, Grahem Langlands and Gary Belcher rolled into 1, you'd still say he was rubbish, moltz had a good game at fullback, and has had many good games there....

not only did he score a try, he made a line break, broke 7 tackles, made a try saver on morris in the corner and ran the ball back reasonably well.

He was not brillant but he went ok, especially considering he spent the warm up at centre, difficult to prepare with that preparation.

do yourself a favour, grab a few games at randon from 2009 and the frst 5 of 2010, and remind yourself what a class player he is and why he was a Junior Kangaroo, and touted by some last year as an origin bolter.

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Dude yes he made a try saver,but also should of put gasnier in touch and his try was as easy as they get.Maybe the moltzen lovers should watch slater,gordon,boyd,gidley,hayne,gardner,wesser,campbell,bowen,dugan,coote,minichello,hohaiha,mackinnon,stewart,beale and barba and see how much better these guys are than timmy. :deadhorse:
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Post by Goose » Mon 30 May, 2011 5:51 pm

I think if McKinnon is fit he is first choice, but Moltz is a talented player who has become the forum whipping boy, he cops it every week.

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 30 May, 2011 5:56 pm

Goose wrote:I think if McKinnon is fit he is first choice, but Moltz is a talented player who has become the forum whipping boy, he cops it every week.
Don't dislike the boy but he is more a half back because he compliments the backline more than Lui at this stage . I reckon Rob Lui needs a few good games now back to back or he is on the edge of getting the boot . Maybe with Tuqiri and Ellis back we will see major improvements

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Post by stryker » Mon 30 May, 2011 10:53 pm

Goose wrote:[ made a try saver on morris in the corner .
Nah man that was Dwyer. Lucky he was there too as Moltz didnt get under Morris. Would have been a deadset try if not for Simons efforts.

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Post by cktiger » Tue 31 May, 2011 12:02 am

biggest tigers fan wrote:
Goose wrote:
happy tiger wrote:MacKinnon 1st choice , Brown 2nd choice, Ryan 3rd choice, Meaney 4th choice ,5th Mullaney, 6th Moltzen .Why do people think because you scored a try that means you have played well :crazy
Happy, if moltz played like billy slater, Grahem Langlands and Gary Belcher rolled into 1, you'd still say he was rubbish, moltz had a good game at fullback, and has had many good games there....

not only did he score a try, he made a line break, broke 7 tackles, made a try saver on morris in the corner and ran the ball back reasonably well.

He was not brillant but he went ok, especially considering he spent the warm up at centre, difficult to prepare with that preparation.

do yourself a favour, grab a few games at randon from 2009 and the frst 5 of 2010, and remind yourself what a class player he is and why he was a Junior Kangaroo, and touted by some last year as an origin bolter.

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Dude yes he made a try saver,but also should of put gasnier in touch and his try was as easy as they get.Maybe the moltzen lovers should watch slater,gordon,boyd,gidley,hayne,gardner,wesser,campbell,bowen,dugan,coote,minichello,hohaiha,mackinnon,stewart,beale and barba and see how much better these guys are than timmy. :deadhorse:
I think you'll find most of those guys have had a lot more games at fullback than Moltzen has.
Personally I hope Moltzen doesn't play fullback and Brown gets a shot at it.
Do you think he is better than all of those you named?
If not then who is? Mullaney? Meaney?
It hasn't been Moltzen's fault we're not playing well.
Name me another team that lays the blame on a teams consistently poor performances on a centre or fullback?
If you want to know one reason we are not winning it's because our halfback is currently playing worse than any other half in the comp - and he's not playing out of position.

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Post by larrycorowa » Tue 31 May, 2011 3:08 pm

As good as he is, we need to start preparing for life after Mackinnon. His late withdrawals are extremely disruptive. Against Saints it meant that we had two players playing in different positions to those that they were preparing to play.

As painful as it is we need to bite the bullet and either; persevere with Moltzen at 1, annoint Brown or start grooming Mullaney or Meaney.

We can't afford to let fullback develop into our achillies heal.

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Post by smeghead » Tue 31 May, 2011 3:15 pm

I read the topic header and assumed someone was suggesting McKinnon warm up for his warm up like the Panthers did last night.

To prepare for the cold they warmed up on excercise bikes before the warmup to ensure that any risk to hamstings etc was greatly minimised
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