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Post by hadds75 » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:23 pm

Honestly they got absolutely smashed by the knights pack. On the back of a 9-2 penalty count and all the territory our pack looked so ineffective. Any time newcastle got the ball theyd charge onto it and get over the advantage line. any time one of our fellas ran it hed be hit , driven back and as a result take 10 seconds to play the ball.

How is Farah supposed to do anything behind a pack who is just absolutely dominated???

Every player might have there value to the pack, but the balance isnt there. Having forwards gain any metres was a big factor at the end of last year in the two semis we lost, and its the same now.

Does bringing in Blair, and a bit of development by woods and fifita change our pack?


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Post by Peaches » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:25 pm

I thought the Knights speed of line was much better than ours and was quite evident in that department.

Moltzen and Ryan also need to make stronger meters on kick returns.

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Post by tiger05 » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:27 pm

I disagree. Woods dropped the ball too much. Fulton got dominated. Dwyer was pretty ineffective.

At the same time Fifita was the best prop on the park. Heighno was the best player on the park. Gibbs and Galloway both put in. Ellis was good.

I think that Sheens has to go for a big pack going forward.

Something like:

8. Fifita
10. Galloway
11. Ellis
12. Gibbs
13. Heighno

14. Woods
15. Dwyer
16. Another Prop
17. Fulton or a back

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Post by russelldp » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:28 pm

Blair is a very good player, but we seriously need a senior Big Bopper- ala Petro, Hannant, Matt Scott. They could nurture Woods, Fafita etc. We can't have 8 forwards that run shallow and stop at the line.


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Post by hybrid_tiger » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:31 pm

Fulton got belted all night yet stayed out there for long minutes...WHY!?


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Post by clontarfkid » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:32 pm

Theres already plenty of size in the pack,but we get dominated every week.
Apart from Ellis,theres no real venom in defence or attack,players run one out like theyve never been coached,& most stop at the line rather than break it.

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Post by tiger05 » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:33 pm

clontarfkid wrote:Theres already plenty of size in the pack,but we get dominated every week.
Apart from Ellis,theres no real venom in defence or attack,players run one out like theyve never been coached,& most stop at the line rather than break it.
Tell that to Fifita, Galloway and Heighno tonight. They all played huge games.

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Post by Captain Awesome » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:34 pm

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Post by underdog » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:38 pm

Allan Towle wrote:I thought the Knights speed of line was much better than ours and was quite evident in that department.

Moltzen and Ryan also need to make stronger meters on kick returns.
moltzen yes.


Ryan? jeez mate, he does well. Did you see his last metre gain before farah kicked the field goal?

Im pretty sure he pumped his legs and backed his way to 10-15 metres with both Junior Sau and Mcmanus trying to stop him.
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Post by Balmain Bug » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:52 pm

The Fonz struggles to pump the team up with venom. The coach is to blame for years and years of being outmuscled.
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Post by MacDougall » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 9:57 pm

Neil Begovich has all the signs of being a tough, granite hard, Matt Scott style prop. He may not have the pedigree of a Groat or Woods but he looks to me like the sort of prop that'll become a hero figure.

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Post by farahfan » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 10:02 pm

fulton is really the only weak link here i know hes only there for the defensive work but how can we afford to keep him on the field when he gets destroyed on every single hit up

dwyer is only effective when our halves put him through a hole, unfortunately didnt happen tonight

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Post by Alf Duguid » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 10:12 pm

Woods is quite a large lad. I hope he realises how good he could be

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Post by mikey » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 10:35 pm

Balmain Bug wrote:The Fonz struggles to pump the team up with venom. The coach is to blame for years and years of being outmuscled.
In the words of Lisa Simpson - Hee, hee - you're funny.

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Post by Tigersmurf » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 10:39 pm

We are not big enough. We need big forwards to run three hit ups in a row in the same spot. Fracture the defensive line, particularly when we are in their quater. This will draw in their forwards and make room out wide.

But no, we have to throw it around left to right, right to left getting nowhere and then we drop it! It is not rocket science. Can't they sit in the video room and watch Malbourne and Manly do it! Frustrating!!!

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Post by hybrid_tiger » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 11:05 pm

They are coached to run at the markers and try and get a quick play the ball. Has been the case for years.

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Post by tigernut » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 11:13 pm

hybrid_tiger wrote:Fulton got belted all night yet stayed out there for long minutes...WHY!?
Fulton came on in the last 8 min of first half then played til the end...47 tackles - 1 miss - 1 try

that answer your question.may be small in size but usually has one of the highest tackle rate for minutes played

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Post by Centaur » Mon 06 Jun, 2011 11:42 pm

hybrid_tiger wrote:They are coached to run at the markers and try and get a quick play the ball. Has been the case for years.
Epic fail imo.

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