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Post by barra » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:50 am

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Thu 19 Apr, 2018 2:18 pm
Winning coaches dont get sacked its as simple as that. Coaches are sacked at all clubs based on performance and its no different at our club.
Do you think Potter deserved the sack? He was getting more out of a poor squad than I'd have expected... until some players put on a power play and virtually tanked. Saw it with my own eyes at Canberra Stadium and was sickened by the sight. And a weak board allowed it all to happen.


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Post by Pawsandclaws » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:51 am

My overriding memory of this matter is JT scurrying down the backstairs of whatever facility he was at trying to avoid the media after being terminated.

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:52 am

Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:48 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:40 am
When is he going to write his book? It will be longer than War And Peace with the axes he has to grind.

Taylor
Tallis
Sheens
Potter
How are these 3 coaches going in the NRL in 2018?

Oh thats right they will never get a 1st grade head coaching job again.

Im sure they will blame it all on Robbie as thats the easy thing to say.
So because they might not ever get another gig, that makes it ok?

Anyone who thinks Taylor will never get another gig is kidding themselves. He's this era's Brian Smith. Any club in need of a clean out will bring him in. Not a coach you are after to bring long term success. He's a hatchet man.

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Post by Doc Tiger » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:54 am

Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:48 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:40 am
When is he going to write his book? It will be longer than War And Peace with the axes he has to grind.

Taylor
Tallis
Sheens
Potter
How are these 3 coaches going in the NRL in 2018?

Oh thats right they will never get a 1st grade head coaching job again.

Im sure they will blame it all on Robbie as thats the easy thing to say.

Big Gordie is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
It wouldn't surprise me if Potter coaches again. Particularly if the knights do well whilst he's there.

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Post by Eddie » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:02 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:52 am
Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:48 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:40 am
When is he going to write his book? It will be longer than War And Peace with the axes he has to grind.

Taylor
Tallis
Sheens
Potter
How are these 3 coaches going in the NRL in 2018?

Oh thats right they will never get a 1st grade head coaching job again.

Im sure they will blame it all on Robbie as thats the easy thing to say.
So because they might not ever get another gig, that makes it ok?

Anyone who thinks Taylor will never get another gig is kidding themselves. He's this era's Brian Smith. Any club in need of a clean out will bring him in. Not a coach you are after to bring long term success. He's a hatchet man.
Please.

Our culture was awful under JT. He hardly cleaned the place up. He is a flog what talks a big game but delivers little.

Brian Smith is a 55% career coach who made multiple Grand Finals

JT is a 44% head coach who has never won a finals game better off suited to being a good assistant coach.

Won't be a head coach in the NRL again. Your dreaming if you think he will be.


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Post by Eddie » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:04 am

Doc Tiger wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:54 am
Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:48 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:40 am
When is he going to write his book? It will be longer than War And Peace with the axes he has to grind.

Taylor
Tallis
Sheens
Potter
How are these 3 coaches going in the NRL in 2018?

Oh thats right they will never get a 1st grade head coaching job again.

Im sure they will blame it all on Robbie as thats the easy thing to say.

Big Gordie is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
It wouldn't surprise me if Potter coaches again. Particularly if the knights do well whilst he's there.
Your right I quite liked Potter and did fell he should have stayed instead of get JT.

However its not like clubs were suing up for him when he was sacked.

Thats my point.

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Post by Russell » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:06 am

Don't recall him making Souffs a mess - or are you only using selective memory?

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Post by Eddie » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:08 am

Where did they finish the year he left?

Or let me guess we are we going to give him magic credit for Maguire turning the club around?

His face left Souths a mess.

Maybe thats what I was referring to.

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Post by Doc Tiger » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:12 am

Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:04 am
Doc Tiger wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:54 am
Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:48 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:40 am
When is he going to write his book? It will be longer than War And Peace with the axes he has to grind.

Taylor
Tallis
Sheens
Potter
How are these 3 coaches going in the NRL in 2018?

Oh thats right they will never get a 1st grade head coaching job again.

Im sure they will blame it all on Robbie as thats the easy thing to say.

Big Gordie is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
It wouldn't surprise me if Potter coaches again. Particularly if the knights do well whilst he's there.
Your right I quite liked Potter and did fell he should have stayed instead of get JT.

However its not like clubs were suing up for him when he was sacked.

Thats my point.
Yep, I get what you're saying eddie. I just think he has plenty to offer. Who knows, he may end up at one of his old clubs down the track....doggies after Pay gets the boot perhaps? Dragons when they fail again? Who knows?

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:26 am

Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:02 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:52 am
Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:48 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:40 am
When is he going to write his book? It will be longer than War And Peace with the axes he has to grind.

Taylor
Tallis
Sheens
Potter
How are these 3 coaches going in the NRL in 2018?

Oh thats right they will never get a 1st grade head coaching job again.

Im sure they will blame it all on Robbie as thats the easy thing to say.
So because they might not ever get another gig, that makes it ok?

Anyone who thinks Taylor will never get another gig is kidding themselves. He's this era's Brian Smith. Any club in need of a clean out will bring him in. Not a coach you are after to bring long term success. He's a hatchet man.
Please.

Our culture was awful under JT. He hardly cleaned the place up. He is a flog what talks a big game but delivers little.

Brian Smith is a 55% career coach who made multiple Grand Finals

JT is a 44% head coach who has never won a finals game better off suited to being a good assistant coach.

Won't be a head coach in the NRL again. Your dreaming if you think he will be.
You seem to have something personal against him, so your opinion is not exactly objective.

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Post by Telltails » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:33 am

barra wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:50 am
Telltails wrote:
Thu 19 Apr, 2018 2:18 pm
Winning coaches dont get sacked its as simple as that. Coaches are sacked at all clubs based on performance and its no different at our club.
Do you think Potter deserved the sack? He was getting more out of a poor squad than I'd have expected... until some players put on a power play and virtually tanked. Saw it with my own eyes at Canberra Stadium and was sickened by the sight. And a weak board allowed it all to happen.
Its totally irrelevant what I think Barra cause I dont get to make those decisions. The board and CEO at the time made the call not to renew Potters contract, and regardless of the conspiracy theories around why - it was and always be there call, rightly or wrongly and any anger at the decision should be solely directed at them. The board had a history of being factional, and making decisions that were not always in the clubs best interest, considering the mess they created.
As for some players directly deciding to influence others to tank a game and the players agreeing to do it, to get rid of the coach - you will have to be more explicit with the details for me to make any comment on that.
Season was derailed as soon as the GT opened his big mouth before the crtical St George game -prior to that we were starting to put together some good performances and edging toward the semis thanks to the players at the time and the coach. At that point we certainly not performimg like a side that had a problem with the coach.

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Post by Russell » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:37 am

Well Eddie - you seem to be even more vindictive to JT than 851.

Never thought anyone would overtake him. Congratulations.

Twelve months on and the venom keeps pouring out.

JT loves you as well. Lol

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Post by Eddie » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 11:11 am

Russell wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:37 am
Well Eddie - you seem to be even more vindictive to JT than 851.

Never thought anyone would overtake him. Congratulations.

Twelve months on and the venom keeps pouring out.

JT loves you as well. Lol
when I see the same bile of 6 pages of hate for a player that left over 12 months ago - y that won a premiership and played 240 games for our club I couldn't resist a few digs at the JT lovers - a bloke who achieved next to nothing at WT. xx

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 11:25 am

Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 11:11 am
Russell wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:37 am
Well Eddie - you seem to be even more vindictive to JT than 851.

Never thought anyone would overtake him. Congratulations.

Twelve months on and the venom keeps pouring out.

JT loves you as well. Lol
when I see the same bile of 6 pages of hate for a player that left over 12 months ago - y that won a premiership and played 240 games for our club I couldn't resist a few digs at the JT lovers - a bloke who achieved next to nothing at WT. xx
'The JT lovers'' are too busy enjoying our current success to care.

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Post by Eddie » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 11:31 am

Judging by the last 6 pages Im not convinced about that!!

People in glass houses...

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Post by Eddie » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 11:32 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:26 am
Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 10:02 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:52 am
Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:48 am


How are these 3 coaches going in the NRL in 2018?

Oh thats right they will never get a 1st grade head coaching job again.

Im sure they will blame it all on Robbie as thats the easy thing to say.
So because they might not ever get another gig, that makes it ok?

Anyone who thinks Taylor will never get another gig is kidding themselves. He's this era's Brian Smith. Any club in need of a clean out will bring him in. Not a coach you are after to bring long term success. He's a hatchet man.
Please.

Our culture was awful under JT. He hardly cleaned the place up. He is a flog what talks a big game but delivers little.

Brian Smith is a 55% career coach who made multiple Grand Finals

JT is a 44% head coach who has never won a finals game better off suited to being a good assistant coach.

Won't be a head coach in the NRL again. Your dreaming if you think he will be.
You seem to have something personal against him, so your opinion is not exactly objective.
The stats I quoted seem to be close to the mark.

are they subjective?

Or is your opinion that he is a good hatchet man that will return as an NRL coach just as if not more subjective?

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Post by happy tiger » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 11:45 am

Eddie wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:48 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Apr, 2018 9:40 am
When is he going to write his book? It will be longer than War And Peace with the axes he has to grind.

Taylor
Tallis
Sheens
Potter
How are these 3 coaches going in the NRL in 2018?

Oh thats right they will never get a 1st grade head coaching job again.

Im sure they will blame it all on Robbie as thats the easy thing to say.

Big Gordie is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Bugger

Last night on Matty Johns Gordon Tallis said he thinks the WT's could shock the comp and go all the way in 2018 :pray:

Eddie calling everyone who supports the bloke carrying the folder a lover is a bit immature really , and for a bloke with your footy nouse below you

If they coach my club I respect them , look many of us were probably plotting to assassinate Sheens in the end

JT probably was a hatchet man in the end , but aren't you happy with the end result = WT's winning football games and not seen as the laughing stock of the NRL ??

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Post by Eddie » Fri 20 Apr, 2018 11:50 am

Of course Im happy Happy :D . Im delighted the whole period of time is over and this club is on the rise.

I just dont like the cheap shots at Farah all the time. 12 months after he left. A bloke who achieved plenty at the club.

Is that not any less immature from fans?

Benji had a sulk and carried on during his first time at the club. So did most of the Big 4 outside Brooks. Now look at Benji under Ivan. Totally different character. Farah wont get that chance and nor should be. Don't get me wrong I'm happy Farah, Woods and Moses are gone. We needed a fresh start.

I just think people shouldn't underestimate what having a really good coach (or by contrast a really average one) can do to players and how it can change perceptions and change a whole organisation. Maybe Benji has changed and Robbie will never. However that would be subjective to say that as we will never know.

Thanks for the clip happy I will go back to talking about us winning now!!

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