Mitch Moses is swimming with the tide at Eels after a fresh start

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Mitch Moses is swimming with the tide at Eels after a fresh start

Unread post by tigerap » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 9:26 pm

The Wests Tigers always felt Mitchell Moses strutted around Concord with a sense of entitlement.

Perhaps it was the result of hearing constant references to being "a superstar in the making" since the age of 16.


But at Parramatta, he isn't owed a thing. In fact, it is he who owes them for taking a punt on a player many thought might never live up to the hype.

There were plenty who questioned Parramatta's pursuit of Moses, wondering why Brad Arthur would fork out in excess of $700,000 a season on a player shown the door by the Tigers.

But those doubting Arthur's vision have been wiping egg off their face for the past few months as Moses put together the most influential half-season of football in blue and gold since Jarryd Hayne shined for the team in 2009.

So how does a player who produced just two try assists in 10 games for the Wests Tigers this year then lay on 14 tries and 14 line-break assists in the following 13 weeks wearing another jersey?

"The Tigers were the ones that took his contract off the table," his housemate and former Tigers teammate James Tedesco said. "If the club is doing that, it became obvious they didn't really want him here."

"From that point, as a player, that would affect you mentally and that's why he wanted the change. You could see that he just wasn't himself any more.

"You can tell he was just a bit frustrated. The way the whole situation panned out for him was disappointing. He's said the fresh start over there was what he needed and he couldn't be happier."

Tigers fans criticised Moses for this perception he stopped trying in his final weeks at the club.

But interestingly, he touched the ball more and ran for more metres this season at the Tigers than he has at Parramatta.

Sometimes less is more, right?

In the past, Moses has been guilty of trying to overplay his hand. In his first three weeks at the Eels, probably with the intention of trying to prove himself, the Parramatta halfback touched the ball an average of 45 times per game.

Compare that to his last three weeks of football, where, despite only handling the ball an average of 29 times per game, Moses has still managed to produce four try-assists and six linebreak-assists.

Arthur is a big believer in making sure his players stick to the game plan. The right play, not the big play. On the surface, that seemed like a recipe for disaster given Moses' track record of thriving when playing off the cuff.

He was never satisfied with the game plan imposed by Jason Taylor at the Tigers, constantly seeking approval to throw off the shackles.

Interestingly, Arthur is a stickler for structure. Yet Moses has flourished and finally found some consistency in his game. Maybe Taylor was on to something after all? But the constant undermining and lack of respect for Taylor shown by some must have filtered its way down.

Perhaps that sense of entitlement played a part. But there is little doubt Moses' attitude has shifted dramatically since arriving to play under Arthur.

Parramatta officials noticed how wary Moses was when he first arrived to play at the club. He was scarred by everything that had happened at the Tigers.

If they aren't already, perhaps the Tigers will one day regret the decision to pull his contract off the table. But had Mitchell Moses been playing this sort of football, he might have been the member of the big four they wanted to keep most.

"Me and Brooksy both said, 'Do whatever makes you happy'," Tedesco recalled of the turbulent period in which contract negotiations at the Tigers dominated the headlines.

"We knew we weren't going to be as good as a team without him, but that would have been pretty selfish of us to ask him to stay for our benefit. He had to do what would benefit him as a player and a person, so we supported him 100 per cent. We said to him, if you're not happy here and you think you'll be happier over there then go."

Earlier in the year, when it looked increasingly likely the Tigers would be fighting to avoid the spoon than competing for a top eight berth, Tedesco, Brooks and Moses organised a trip to Melbourne with a punters club in September.

Clearly, Moses won't be attending now.

"Who knows, the way Parra are going they can make the grand final," Tedesco said. "That would be a great success story from what happened at the start of the year to take them to a grand final."

And if they do, they'll be talking about Moses in the same light as Hayne, the man he cheered on from the stands as a Parramatta-adoring teenager all those years ago.


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Unread post by Fibros » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 9:35 pm

Tedesco is a imbecile.

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Unread post by Byron Bay Fan » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 9:46 pm

Fibros wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 9:35 pm
Tedesco is a imbecile.
I appreciate that he has given an insight into the saga, straight forward up and down. Nothing really wrong with that.
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Unread post by stryker » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:00 pm

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 9:46 pm
Fibros wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 9:35 pm
Tedesco is a imbecile.
I appreciate that he has given an insight into the saga, straight forward up and down. Nothing really wrong with that.
Doesnt mean he isnt an imbecile.
Whoever wrote that article needs to take a rest before lock jaw sets in...

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Unread post by Love the WestsTigers » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:05 pm

Quick, drain the water
Lets see what happens to the cry baby Moses...


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Unread post by Tigerdave » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:08 pm

"The Tigers were the ones that took his contract off the table," his housemate and former Tigers teammate James Tedesco said. "If the club is doing that, it became obvious they didn't really want him here."
Yes they took the contract off the table.................a contract that had been sitting there for months, he could have signed, but didn't

It actually became obvious he didn't want the club, not the other way round.

Just when is he going to take responsibility for his actions or in-actions in this case?

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Unread post by tig_prmz » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:13 pm

tigerap wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 9:26 pm


Earlier in the year, when it looked increasingly likely the Tigers would be fighting to avoid the spoon than competing for a top eight berth, Tedesco, Brooks and Moses organised a trip to Melbourne with a punters club in September.

they organised a trip early in the year during the finals? lol
But at Parramatta, he isn't owed a thing. In fact, it is he who owes them for taking a punt on a player many thought might never live up to the hype.
and tigers owed mitchell something?
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Unread post by Tiger Steve » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:19 pm

One week to go and all this crud is behind us. Hopefully our new direction in 2018 will be so positive we won't have time to think about those that chose to leave

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Unread post by stryker » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:21 pm

Tiger Steve wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:19 pm
One week to go and all this crud is behind us. Hopefully our new direction in 2018 will be so positive we won't have time to think about those that chose to leave
Dont you believe that Steve we will hear about this for years as they experience success outside this club.

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Unread post by Tiger Steve » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:37 pm

stryker wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:21 pm
Tiger Steve wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:19 pm
One week to go and all this crud is behind us. Hopefully our new direction in 2018 will be so positive we won't have time to think about those that chose to leave
Dont you believe that Steve we will hear about this for years as they experience success outside this club.
Yeah I'm fearful of that for sure. Every time Moses plays well it sends my blood pressure through the roof! I'm just hoping we too experience success!

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Unread post by supercoach » Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:54 pm

Iam over joyed he is out of our club and even if he turns out to be the next JT, I will only ever remember him as the player who tanked because he did not get his own way.

We are a better club without him

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Unread post by tiger05premier » Wed 30 Aug, 2017 6:39 am

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 9:46 pm
Fibros wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 9:35 pm
Tedesco is a imbecile.
I appreciate that he has given an insight into the saga, straight forward up and down. Nothing really wrong with that.
An insight?

Moses had years to decide over contract options and extensions and than cried when we got sick of waiting.

Than signed with parra in a heart beat.

Stuff him and Tedesco's little sob story

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Unread post by tiger05premier » Wed 30 Aug, 2017 6:42 am

supercoach wrote:
Tue 29 Aug, 2017 10:54 pm
Iam over joyed he is out of our club and even if he turns out to be the next JT, I will only ever remember him as the player who tanked because he did not get his own way.

We are a better club without him
His sulking past will never be forgotten

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Unread post by Tiger Come Lately » Wed 30 Aug, 2017 7:00 am

He may find a rip and be washed out to sea.

One thing he will have over us is he is playing finals footy this year

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Unread post by Earl » Wed 30 Aug, 2017 7:07 am

I want to hear the supporters of these guys explain why their hero's continue to act like complete muppets.

One more game and we cut the cancer completely out of this club.

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Unread post by Byron Bay Fan » Wed 30 Aug, 2017 7:27 am

Tiger Come Lately wrote:
Wed 30 Aug, 2017 7:00 am
He may find a rip and be washed out to sea.

.................................
On another forum the control freak would bar you permanently for that line - really truly.
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Unread post by NT Tiger » Wed 30 Aug, 2017 8:20 am

Benny's a better author than I would have expected.
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Unread post by Telltails » Wed 30 Aug, 2017 8:40 am

The best thing the club can learn from all of this is to make sure that we are an organisation that key players want to play for, rather than one that has to chase them.
You can ignore what a mess we were in now - that we seem to be on the right track - but the Taylor years were a disaster and those players were stuck right in the thick of it.
They lost faith in the club they made a choice, the club made a choice we all move on.

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