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Crichton to roosters

Post by Harvey » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 1:15 pm

3.9m of 9.4m cap on 3 players. Other 27 on average of 203k.
The NRL is ridiculous


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Post by GNR4LIFE » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 1:17 pm

The TPA system needs a massive, massive overhaul.

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Post by 851 » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 1:26 pm

Harvey wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 1:15 pm
3.9m of 9.4m cap on 3 players. Other 27 on average of 203k.
The NRL is ridiculous
I said in another thread, that in 2019 if Cordner stays they will have 4 players on 1 million plus a season deals.
Go hard or go home

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Post by gallagher » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 1:28 pm

the backlash will finally get the NRL to do something.

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 1:40 pm

Absolute garbage.

"Oh, but we offloaded Pearce..."
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
Taken too much slow, minds gone out to sea on the P&O,
Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
Another case of "stupid is as stupid does..."

Cuando llegue el día, y estoy parado a las puertas del cielo, será Dios pidiendo mi perdón...


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Post by GNR4LIFE » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 1:47 pm

Cultured Bogan wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 1:40 pm
Absolute garbage.

"Oh, but we offloaded Pearce..."
They said they could have kept Pearce. Pearce just didn't want to play second fiddle.

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Post by jadtiger » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 2:03 pm

You have to laugh about this, under Greenburg the NRL have given up on trying to make it look like an even playing field.Whatever the "favoured" clubs want they get and nobody blinks an eye

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Post by tigerap » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:01 pm

Harvey wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 1:15 pm
3.9m of 9.4m cap on 3 players. Other 27 on average of 203k.
The NRL is ridiculous
What happened to the NRL's stance on signing players on "fair market" value? Given the 3 players value of $3.9 p.a. how can the rest of the squad only have a fair market value of $203k each?...Joke absolute Joke..Greenberg and Grant should step down...the NRL has gone backwards big time since the sacking of Gallop

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Post by Harvey » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:05 pm

Round 1 next year. Take your brown paper bags filled with some old newspaper and lob them over the fence

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Post by BalmainBoy » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:26 pm

Roosters have lost:
Aiden Guerra 200-300k
Connor Watson 150-250k
Shuan Kenny-Dowall 250k-300k
Jayden Nikorima 100-200k
Paul Carter 100k - 200k
Mitchell Pearce 800-900k
Michael Gordon 200k -300k (maybe more?)
Kane Evans 100k
Liam Knights 100k

2 millionish lost?

Gained
Cronk - 800k?
Tedesco - 1 million
ugraded Keary - 200k upgrade?

Increased value 2 millionish?

The salary cap rose also from 7.6 to 9.4 million (1.8 million) - so any players ive missed or upgrades would fit within that..

Easy to say Roosters are rorters.. but I can see how they can fit Chrichton in with the players they've lost

The comments here seem unfounded when you really look at it..

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Post by tigerap » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:31 pm

BalmainBoy wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:26 pm
Roosters have lost:
Aiden Guerra 200-300k
Connor Watson 150-250k
Shuan Kenny-Dowall 250k-300k
Jayden Nikorima 100-200k
Paul Carter 100k - 200k
Mitchell Pearce 800-900k
Michael Gordon 200k -300k (maybe more?)
Kane Evans 100k
Liam Knights 100k

2 millionish lost?

Gained
Cronk - 800k?
Tedesco - 1 million
ugraded Keary - 200k upgrade?

Increased value 2 millionish?

The salary cap rose also from 7.6 to 9.4 million (1.8 million) - so any players ive missed or upgrades would fit within that..

Easy to say Roosters are rorters.. but I can see how they can fit Chrichton in with the players they've lost

The comments here seem unfounded when you really look at it..
You are ruining the party....:-(

They also re-signed: Ferguson, Tupou, Napa and Matterson

Cronk is on at least $1m

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Post by BalmainBoy » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:37 pm

tigerap wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:31 pm
BalmainBoy wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:26 pm
Roosters have lost:
Aiden Guerra 200-300k
Connor Watson 150-250k
Shuan Kenny-Dowall 250k-300k
Jayden Nikorima 100-200k
Paul Carter 100k - 200k
Mitchell Pearce 800-900k
Michael Gordon 200k -300k (maybe more?)
Kane Evans 100k
Liam Knights 100k

2 millionish lost?

Gained
Cronk - 800k?
Tedesco - 1 million
ugraded Keary - 200k upgrade?

Increased value 2 millionish?

The salary cap rose also from 7.6 to 9.4 million (1.8 million) - so any players ive missed or upgrades would fit within that..

Easy to say Roosters are rorters.. but I can see how they can fit Chrichton in with the players they've lost

The comments here seem unfounded when you really look at it..
You are ruining the party....:-(

They also re-signed: Ferguson, Tupou, Napa and Matterson
Haha sorry to attempt some rational analysis...

Yes they did re-sign .. but that wouldn't go near the 1.8 million cap increase (maybe 500k on upgrading those players at most?).. the losses and gains seem to cancel out.. leaving the $1.8 cap increase.
Sorry to actually try and apply some quantitative logic but I read some of the stuff here and get frustrated.. always dragging the NRL down Paul Kent style..

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Post by Pawsandclaws » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:58 pm

Does anyone seriously believe Crichton was not committed to the Roosters much earlier, possibly even last year when he started to perform? All this conjecture about his future reminds me of the Tedesco signing.

Does the NRL police payments made to managers specifically those paid by clubs to managers to have their clients sign with new clubs?

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Post by tigerap » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 4:06 pm

Its hard to believe how NRL players these days go from nuffies to superstar pay packets in the space of 12 months...The greed that is in the game is very sad....

if the Roosters win the comp in the next 2 or 3 years it can only be a hollow one within the ranks, surely they can't hold the trophy up and feel like they "won" it...or lay claim to have "earned" it...they "bought" it...Gee, I hate the way the game has changed in the last 10-15 years...but I still follow it and my team... there is no way this competition is a level playing field...

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Post by jirskyr » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 4:37 pm

BalmainBoy wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:37 pm
tigerap wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:31 pm
BalmainBoy wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:26 pm
Roosters have lost:
Aiden Guerra 200-300k
Connor Watson 150-250k
Shuan Kenny-Dowall 250k-300k
Jayden Nikorima 100-200k
Paul Carter 100k - 200k
Mitchell Pearce 800-900k
Michael Gordon 200k -300k (maybe more?)
Kane Evans 100k
Liam Knights 100k

2 millionish lost?

Gained
Cronk - 800k?
Tedesco - 1 million
ugraded Keary - 200k upgrade?

Increased value 2 millionish?

The salary cap rose also from 7.6 to 9.4 million (1.8 million) - so any players ive missed or upgrades would fit within that..

Easy to say Roosters are rorters.. but I can see how they can fit Chrichton in with the players they've lost

The comments here seem unfounded when you really look at it..
You are ruining the party....:-(

They also re-signed: Ferguson, Tupou, Napa and Matterson
Haha sorry to attempt some rational analysis...

Yes they did re-sign .. but that wouldn't go near the 1.8 million cap increase (maybe 500k on upgrading those players at most?).. the losses and gains seem to cancel out.. leaving the $1.8 cap increase.
Sorry to actually try and apply some quantitative logic but I read some of the stuff here and get frustrated.. always dragging the NRL down Paul Kent style..
The argument about cap increase doesn't wash. I've said this before - everyone gets the cap increase, it's the same increase across all clubs.

But for some reason Roosters appear capable of purchasing $1M players, 3 times no less, whereas no other club can seem to do so. Rabbits were outbid for Crichton and I can understand that, they have some expensive talent like Inglis and Burgess. But they were outbid by a team that already has MORE expensive talent and still somehow finds space.

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Post by Harvey » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 5:06 pm

So the NYC players (Watson and Nikorima) that left were on 400k, Gordon was the subject of charity paid 300k despite no one else wanting him, but Cordner is on less than 500k, Napa & JWH on 300 or less and Mitchell, Manu, Tupou and Takieaho on less than 200.
Pull the other one, it plays jingle bells

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Post by Harvey » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 5:08 pm

It is like when the papers justified how they can sign Cronk with 7 of the top 30 simply listed as Wyong Roos for 600k. They must all be on TPAs as the minimum NRL contract is more than 100k

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Post by BalmainBoy » Mon 18 Dec, 2017 5:17 pm

jirskyr wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 4:37 pm
BalmainBoy wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:37 pm
tigerap wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:31 pm
BalmainBoy wrote:
Mon 18 Dec, 2017 3:26 pm
Roosters have lost:
Aiden Guerra 200-300k
Connor Watson 150-250k
Shuan Kenny-Dowall 250k-300k
Jayden Nikorima 100-200k
Paul Carter 100k - 200k
Mitchell Pearce 800-900k
Michael Gordon 200k -300k (maybe more?)
Kane Evans 100k
Liam Knights 100k

2 millionish lost?

Gained
Cronk - 800k?
Tedesco - 1 million
ugraded Keary - 200k upgrade?

Increased value 2 millionish?

The salary cap rose also from 7.6 to 9.4 million (1.8 million) - so any players ive missed or upgrades would fit within that..

Easy to say Roosters are rorters.. but I can see how they can fit Chrichton in with the players they've lost

The comments here seem unfounded when you really look at it..
You are ruining the party....:-(

They also re-signed: Ferguson, Tupou, Napa and Matterson
Haha sorry to attempt some rational analysis...

Yes they did re-sign .. but that wouldn't go near the 1.8 million cap increase (maybe 500k on upgrading those players at most?).. the losses and gains seem to cancel out.. leaving the $1.8 cap increase.
Sorry to actually try and apply some quantitative logic but I read some of the stuff here and get frustrated.. always dragging the NRL down Paul Kent style..
The argument about cap increase doesn't wash. I've said this before - everyone gets the cap increase, it's the same increase across all clubs.

But for some reason Roosters appear capable of purchasing $1M players, 3 times no less, whereas no other club can seem to do so. Rabbits were outbid for Crichton and I can understand that, they have some expensive talent like Inglis and Burgess. But they were outbid by a team that already has MORE expensive talent and still somehow finds space.
It washes fine...
Im saying the salaries of the losses is matched by the salary of the gains.. and thats NOT including the $1.8 million..

A lot of teams didn't get the benefit of this increase (bulldogs etc) because of the ratchets in their contracts.

and I missed a few - Dale Copley, Jackson Hastings.
Roosters will have very little quality depth next year as they've traded for the top end of the roster.

Anyway .. no point trying to go against the grain here..

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