Breaking News: Jarryd Hayne

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Re: Breaking News: Jarryd Hayne

Post by gallagher » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:49 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:43 pm
gallagher wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:35 pm
I wonder if he told parra he was accused of rape in 2016.
His manager claims to not have known.
Ha. What's funnier? His manager claiming he didn't know or his manager actually not knowing!!!!
The circus is back in town way earlier than expected.


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Post by GNR4LIFE » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:56 pm

gallagher wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:49 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:43 pm
gallagher wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:35 pm
I wonder if he told parra he was accused of rape in 2016.
His manager claims to not have known.
Ha. What's funnier? His manager claiming he didn't know or his manager actually not knowing!!!!
The circus is back in town way earlier than expected.
Way to out himself as an idiot.

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Post by 851 » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:57 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 6:26 pm
tigerap wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 3:49 pm
The Human Headline strikes again....he is all yours Arthur, all yours....
That 700 k that Parra saved themselves looks like an absolute bargain basement sale now

I'd LMAO if Parra lose sponsors over this

Karma's still a nasty piece of work :lol:
Would be pretty funny, Mitch might not like it either, now for some red hot chook karma, please santa, please.
Go hard or go home

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Post by tigerap » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 8:29 pm

Obviously no Police checks in the NRL contracts......

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Post by LARDS » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 8:35 pm

Explains the sudden decision to quit NFL to play sevens.


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Post by tigerap » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 8:42 pm

LARDS wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 8:35 pm
Explains the sudden decision to quit NFL to play sevens.
That’s right exit the country before any charges are laid

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Post by Yossarian » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 10:43 pm

I'm no fan of Hayne but a few points about some of the posts on this thread:

There were no charges planned or actual. He wasn't fleeing anything. So his departure from the US is irrelevant. In any case he'd be liable for extradition anyway.

Everything is alleged at this stage. The police investigated and chose not to prosecute. Based on the deposition posted on the SMH it's not clear Hayne was even contacted by the police. You'd assume he was but it's not clear. If he wasn't as far as Hayne is concerned he "hooked up" with some random which no doubt is a regular event for Jarryd. Based on that why would he tell his manager or anyone else?

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Post by Nelson » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 10:51 pm

Abraham wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 5:16 pm
They have a funny system in the US ...

The cops say he has no case to answer, yet she can still lodge a civil suit and chase money in a situation which can't be proved criminally.
It's the same system we have in that regard. Criminal charges need to be proved to the criminal standard of beyond reasonable doubt whereas civil is on the balance of probabilities. Same thing could happen here.

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Post by NT Tiger » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 10:52 pm

Complaint to police was made 5 months after the alleged incident.
"Quality Stupidity"

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Post by gallagher » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 11:18 pm

Yossarian wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 10:43 pm
I'm no fan of Hayne but a few points about some of the posts on this thread:

There were no charges planned or actual. He wasn't fleeing anything. So his departure from the US is irrelevant. In any case he'd be liable for extradition anyway.

Everything is alleged at this stage. The police investigated and chose not to prosecute. Based on the deposition posted on the SMH it's not clear Hayne was even contacted by the police. You'd assume he was but it's not clear. If he wasn't as far as Hayne is concerned he "hooked up" with some random which no doubt is a regular event for Jarryd. Based on that why would he tell his manager or anyone else?
Surely a rape investigation would involve a chat to the accused at the least.

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Post by Abraham » Thu 21 Dec, 2017 8:18 am

Nelson wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 10:51 pm
Abraham wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 5:16 pm
They have a funny system in the US ...

The cops say he has no case to answer, yet she can still lodge a civil suit and chase money in a situation which can't be proved criminally.
It's the same system we have in that regard. Criminal charges need to be proved to the criminal standard of beyond reasonable doubt whereas civil is on the balance of probabilities. Same thing could happen here.
I could be wrong, but i don't recall any civil cases in Australia where a crime was said to have taken place, but no charges laid.

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Post by Abraham » Thu 21 Dec, 2017 8:20 am

MG1962 wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 6:24 pm
Abraham wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 5:16 pm
They have a funny system in the US ...

The cops say he has no case to answer, yet she can still lodge a civil suit and chase money in a situation which can't be proved criminally.
It is a weird quirk of the legal system over here. Same thing happened to OJ Simpson. He was found not guilty in the criminal court, but lost the civil case and had to pay 33 million in damages to Nichols family.

My understanding is there is a lower level of evidence to win a civil case, and the verdict in a criminal court has no impact............go figure.
Sort of a slap in the face to their own justice system.

Since he is in Australia and out of their jurisdiction, i wonder if he can just tell them to shove it up their backsides?

I doubt US law enforcement is going to seek any sort of extradition for a civil suit.

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Post by Onthebus » Thu 21 Dec, 2017 9:01 am

But Jayne is a good Christian boy lol

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Post by innsaneink » Thu 21 Dec, 2017 9:23 am

Abraham wrote:
Thu 21 Dec, 2017 8:20 am
MG1962 wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 6:24 pm
Abraham wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 5:16 pm
They have a funny system in the US ...

The cops say he has no case to answer, yet she can still lodge a civil suit and chase money in a situation which can't be proved criminally.
It is a weird quirk of the legal system over here. Same thing happened to OJ Simpson. He was found not guilty in the criminal court, but lost the civil case and had to pay 33 million in damages to Nichols family.

My understanding is there is a lower level of evidence to win a civil case, and the verdict in a criminal court has no impact............go figure.
Sort of a slap in the face to their own justice system.

Since he is in Australia and out of their jurisdiction, i wonder if he can just tell them to shove it up their backsides?

I doubt US law enforcement is going to seek any sort of extradition for a civil suit.
Probably.
Didn't.matt lodge basically do similar

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Post by jirskyr » Thu 21 Dec, 2017 9:30 am

MG1962 wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 6:24 pm
Abraham wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 5:16 pm
They have a funny system in the US ...

The cops say he has no case to answer, yet she can still lodge a civil suit and chase money in a situation which can't be proved criminally.
It is a weird quirk of the legal system over here. Same thing happened to OJ Simpson. He was found not guilty in the criminal court, but lost the civil case and had to pay 33 million in damages to Nichols family.

My understanding is there is a lower level of evidence to win a civil case, and the verdict in a criminal court has no impact............go figure.
It's not a weird quirk, it's a serious deficit that promotes a dreadfully litigious culture. Just drive around the outskirts of big US cities and see how many billboards for law firms there are.

Also think about how many Australian footballers have ever been accused of an offence in America and how many of the alleged victims brought civil suits. It's 100% and it would always be that way because victims hedge their bets - institutional penalty and personal financial penalty.

How can there possibly be two "levels" of guilt applied to one case. How can you be not guilty of something but have to pay someone for the same alleged offence? Makes no sense, it just encourages lawsuits.

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Post by Abraham » Thu 21 Dec, 2017 9:58 am

innsaneink wrote:
Thu 21 Dec, 2017 9:23 am
Abraham wrote:
Thu 21 Dec, 2017 8:20 am
MG1962 wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 6:24 pm
Abraham wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 5:16 pm
They have a funny system in the US ...

The cops say he has no case to answer, yet she can still lodge a civil suit and chase money in a situation which can't be proved criminally.
It is a weird quirk of the legal system over here. Same thing happened to OJ Simpson. He was found not guilty in the criminal court, but lost the civil case and had to pay 33 million in damages to Nichols family.

My understanding is there is a lower level of evidence to win a civil case, and the verdict in a criminal court has no impact............go figure.
Sort of a slap in the face to their own justice system.

Since he is in Australia and out of their jurisdiction, i wonder if he can just tell them to shove it up their backsides?

I doubt US law enforcement is going to seek any sort of extradition for a civil suit.
Probably.
Didn't.matt lodge basically do similar
Yeah i think he did ignore it.

In Lodge's case he was actually found guilty of a crime by the courts, so a civil case is understandable.

But in Hayne's case, he hasn't even been charged with anything. Its ridiculous.

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Thu 21 Dec, 2017 10:23 am

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Thought it was possibly a groupie seeking a payday but the fact she was a virgin makes things look bad for Hayne. Just cant keep out of the headlines, nor trouble.
Groupies were all virgins atsome time

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Thu 21 Dec, 2017 10:26 am

tigerap wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 8:29 pm
Obviously no Police checks in the NRL contracts......
If it was only an accusation, it probably would not be in a police check anyway

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