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Re: Rank the Players /Positions /Teams

Post by Munk » Sun 28 Jan, 2018 10:06 pm

Still poor passing game. Compared with Slater and Boyd who have ball skills like a 5/8 he has the ball skills of a winger.


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Post by Nelson » Sun 28 Jan, 2018 10:20 pm

Munk wrote:
Sun 28 Jan, 2018 10:06 pm
Still poor passing game. Compared with Slater and Boyd who have ball skills like a 5/8 he has the ball skills of a winger.
He has a good passing game for a fullback and we would've done better last year if he'd used it more. His passing game will improve over time just like those of Slater and Boyd if he starts to use it again instead of ball hogging.

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Post by Munk » Sun 28 Jan, 2018 10:25 pm

Nelson wrote:
Sun 28 Jan, 2018 10:20 pm
Munk wrote:
Sun 28 Jan, 2018 10:06 pm
Still poor passing game. Compared with Slater and Boyd who have ball skills like a 5/8 he has the ball skills of a winger.
He has a good passing game for a fullback and we would've done better last year if he'd used it more. His passing game will improve over time just like those of Slater and Boyd if he starts to use it again instead of ball hogging.
When a guy looks at space and his first instinct is to break through the gap himself i dont class him as a ball player. He has never not done this.

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Post by happy tiger » Sun 28 Jan, 2018 11:10 pm

Munk wrote:
Sun 28 Jan, 2018 10:25 pm
Nelson wrote:
Sun 28 Jan, 2018 10:20 pm
Munk wrote:
Sun 28 Jan, 2018 10:06 pm
Still poor passing game. Compared with Slater and Boyd who have ball skills like a 5/8 he has the ball skills of a winger.
He has a good passing game for a fullback and we would've done better last year if he'd used it more. His passing game will improve over time just like those of Slater and Boyd if he starts to use it again instead of ball hogging.
When a guy looks at space and his first instinct is to break through the gap himself i dont class him as a ball player. He has never not done this.
As a fullback you need both to survive as a top player

Most fullbacks who come from a fullback background running game would be the first thing you develop so natural instinct would make you look at run first

Slater's ball playing skills developed as he got older , Tedesco may get better as well

Also the threat of a good running game as a fullback creates space and helps create the ball playing aspect of your game

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Post by Tigerdon » Mon 19 Feb, 2018 1:15 pm

Which NRL team has the best spine?

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The players filling the roles of hooker, halfback, five-eighth and fullback form the backbone of any rugby league team, and hence the four positions have become known collectively as the team's spine. It is plain to see that a team's hopes of NRL premiership glory are slim if it doesn't have quality players in these vital positions.

The 2018 NRL season will open with more spines having been adjusted than in the local chiropractor's office. With the players settling into their new colours, ESPN has taken a new scientific approach to determining which team came out on top after the great halves shuffle We have gathered five key statistics from the 2017 season, averaged them out per game played and totalled those figures to give a definitive number.

Melbourne Storm, last year's premiers come out on top, even after losing Cooper Cronk to Sydney Roosters. Statistically at least, the Storm lose very little with Brodie Croft slipping on the purple No. 7 jersey.

More surprising was the position taken up by last year's beaten grand finalists, North Queensland Cowboys. Any spine boasting Michael Morgan and Johnathan Thurston would seem to be worthy of a more lofty ranking, but Lachlan Coote and Jake Granville let the team down statistically -- particularly Coote's running metres.

The Panthers slip into second place after welcoming high-performing five-eighth James Maloney from the Sharks. Fullback Dylan Edwards gives them a boost as well with his ability to run the ball.


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The Rabbitohs are surprisingly high on the list, but their fourth position owes a lot to the way Greg Inglis played in 2016. After a season on the sidelines, it will be interesting to see whether he will be back to his best.

Of course, a high-quality spine does not necessarily guarantee premiership success; New Zealand Warriors were solid proof of this last season, when they boasted one of the best spines ever assembled yet still finished the campaign just two wins above the wooden spoon.

KEY:

P = points, T = tackles, TE = tackle efficiency, M = metres run, TA = try assists

(Statistics from the 2017 season unless noted, averaged per game played)

P T TE(%) M TA TOTAL
1. StormStorm
792.36
1 Billy Slater 2.09 5.09 70.0 128.0 0.80 205.98
6 Cameron Munster 1.33 19.95 82.0 106.0 0.62 209.90
7 Brodie Croft 3.20 13.60 83.0 79.5 0.20 179.50
9 Cameron Smith 8.34 38.70 92.0 55.1 0.56 194.70

2. Panthers Panthers 759.57

1 Dylan Edwards 0.50 5.50 71.0 180.6 0.31 257.91
6 James Maloney 7.90 13.85 66.0 72.0 0.60 160.35
7 Nathan Cleary 8.77 18.38 82.0 78.2 0.46 187.81
9 Peter Wallace 0.42 38.73 89.5 24.8 0.05 153.50

3. Rabbitohs Rabbitohs 758.13
1 Greg Inglis* 1.00 12.10 78.0 139.8 0.35 231.25
6 Cody Walker 1.00 14.00 80.9 101.7 0.75 198.35
7 Adam Reynolds 6.76 17.50 85.1 45.6 0.62 155.58
9 Damien Cook 0.35 23.87 89.4 59.2 0.13 172.95
* 2016 stats

4. Sharks Sharks 756.96
1 Valentine Holmes 2.00 3.22 67.8 167.0 0.22 240.24
6 Matt Moylan 1.77 11.00 76.0 114.3 0.44 203.51
7 Chad Townsend 1.12 20.36 83.8 47.0 0.32 152.60
9 Jayden Brailey 0.84 36.92 92.2 30.6 0.05 160.61

5. Broncos Broncos 755.38
1 Darius Boyd 0.60 7.75 86.6 109.0 0.35 204.30
6 Anthony Milford 3.13 10.00 71.0 100.5 0.65 185.28
7 Kodi Nikorima 1.47 16.26 82.6 77.3 0.31 177.94
9 Andrew McCullough 0.44 48.55 92.9 45.7 0.27 187.86

6. Sea Eagles Sea Eagles 750.66
1 Tom Trbojevic 2.08 4.50 77.7 189.6 0.82 274.70
6 Lachlan Croker* 125.25
7 Daly Cherry-Evans 1.60 23.36 81.8 57.8 0.76 165.32
9 Apisai Koroisau 0.58 39.66 85.0 59.9 0.25 185.39
* No stats - lowest 5/8th score

7. Roosters Roosters 744.79

1 James Tedesco 0.95 3.66 69.0 175.1 0.38 249.09
6 Luke Keary 1.23 18.00 82.4 72.6 0.61 174.84
7 Cooper Cronk 1.09 15.13 85.1 62.1 0.73 164.15
9 Jake Friend 0.54 50.10 91.4 14.4 0.27 156.71

8. Warriors Warriors 735.01
1 Roger Tuivasa-Sheck 1.74 3.43 63.9 181.4 0.35 250.82
6 Blake Green 0.50 14.33 85.0 44.3 0.42 144.55
7 Shaun Johnson 5.88 15.66 77.3 69.5 0.94 169.28
9 Issac Luke 1.65 30.78 73.9 63.9 0.13 170.36

9. Knights Knights 695.59

1 Kalyn Ponga 1.71 2.71 64.0 125.6 0.00 194.02
6 Connor Watson 0.73 13.90 73.4 63.7 0.04 151.77
7 Mitchell Pearce 1.22 22.65 87.2 68.1 0.65 179.82
9 Danny Levi 0.50 32.12 90.2 47.0 0.16 169.98

10. Dragons Dragons 675.66
1 Matthew Dufty 1.71 3.00 57.3 117.4 0.43 179.84
6 Gareth Widdop 9.05 11.48 71.0 69.6 0.86 161.99
7 Ben Hunt 1.33 25.60 82.5 49.5 0.57 159.50
9 Cameron McInnes 0.66 48.12 95.1 30.2 0.25 174.33

11. Eels Eels 670.70
1 Bevan French 0.56 4.80 69.7 87.0 0.25 162.31
6 Corey Norman 0.64 15.50 80.0 91.5 0.45 188.00
7 Mitchell Moses 5.15 15.65 83.0 61.2 0.42 165.42
9 Kaysa Pritchard 0.25 36.00 90.9 27.7 0.12 154.97

12. Bulldogs Bulldogs 659.42
1 Moses Mbye 1.90 23.20 82.0 62.7 0.17 170.00
6 Kieran Foran 0.47 17.60 85.0 82.6 0.59 186.26
7 Matt Frawley 0.66 15.88 76.0 40.0 0.37 132.91
9 Michael Lichaa 0.36 32.00 92.6 45.2 0.09 170.25

13. Cowboys Cowboys 658.05
1 Lachlan Coote 0.38 6.04 69.0 75.9 0.38 151.70
6 Michael Morgan 1.63 13.00 79.0 82.4 0.81 176.84
7 Johnathan Thurston 8.57 13.86 72.8 83.6 1.00 179.83
9 Jake Granville 0.66 31.70 87.5 29.4 0.42 149.68

14. Tigers Tigers 651.03
1 Tuimoala Lolohea 5.64 17.30 81.0 68.2 0.40 172.50
6 Josh Reynolds 1.18 16.40 83.5 61.0 0.05 162.13
7 Luke Brooks 1.23 14.35 74.9 75.4 0.53 166.40
9 Matt McIlwrick 0.35 27.35 88.2 34.00 0.08 150.00

15. Titans Titans 636.54
1 Michael Gordon 7.80 4.86 73.0 121.4 0.23 207.29
6 Kane Elgey 2.30 13.00 74.2 35.7 0.05 125.25
7 Ashley Taylor 4.00 15.60 64.4 52.8 0.80 137.60
9 Nathan Peats 0.00 42.00 91.3 32.7 0.40 166.40

16. Raiders Raiders 595.15
1 Jack Wighton 1.20 4.60 76.2 163.3 0.39 245.69
6 Blake Austin 1.16 13.7 81.0 72.0 0.33 168.19
7 Aidan Sezer 1.66 12.37 74.5 56.6 0.33 145.46
9 Siliva Havili* 0.00 14.00 89.0 19.45 0.00 35.81
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Post by Geo. » Mon 19 Feb, 2018 2:50 pm

lol statistically and value to the team Luke Brooks ranks higher than Ben Hunt.and Adam Reynolds .no surpises to me..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by cktiger » Mon 19 Feb, 2018 3:27 pm

Perfect proof that statistics can mean bugger all in football. Cowboys spine ranked 13th, well behind Newcastle..... says it all.

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Post by sheer64 » Mon 19 Feb, 2018 4:56 pm

cktiger wrote:
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Perfect proof that statistics can mean bugger all in football. Cowboys spine ranked 13th, well behind Newcastle..... says it all.
Made me laugh too, JT reads the game better than any player I have seen, obviously the stats they are using have no bearing on this.
Today we saw a true champion in Winx, and a true bludger in Cleary!

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Post by Spud Murphy » Mon 19 Feb, 2018 6:38 pm

Souths 3rd, Cowboys 13th - stupid analysis.

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Post by Munk » Thu 22 Feb, 2018 10:25 pm

RL is a sport where statistics mean jack squat. I always laugh at that clown on chanel nine who spews stat after stat - most of which have little bearing on the outcome of the game he is attempting to predict. The stats calculator thing on fox is equally as useless.

Spines are not the be all and end all of results. The pack has just as much influence.

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Post by happy tiger » Thu 22 Feb, 2018 10:43 pm

Goal kicker isn't in the spine , so your stats are buggered LOL

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Post by happy tiger » Thu 22 Feb, 2018 10:45 pm

cktiger wrote:
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Perfect proof that statistics can mean bugger all in football. Cowboys spine ranked 13th, well behind Newcastle..... says it all.
Bulldogs 12th Cowboys 13th :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll

Bulldogs ahead of anyone :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll

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Post by happy tiger » Sun 15 Apr, 2018 11:27 am

Yeah been off the mark with a few of these predictions , though Bird to 7 was a genius call

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