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Post by Demps » Sun 20 May, 2018 5:53 pm

Woods is getting clowned in this game.
What a dud.
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Post by Spud Murphy » Sun 20 May, 2018 5:57 pm

hobbo wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 5:52 pm
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Sharks helped all the way by refs again today. Bloody hell when will this ever end!
Probably next Sunday when the dogs play us .
Lol yeah will probably end for them, but definitely not for us!

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Post by Tweed Tiger » Sun 20 May, 2018 6:06 pm

Dugan sin bin in final minute.

Sin bin in every game this weekend....

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Post by Demps » Sun 20 May, 2018 6:10 pm

Tweed Tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 6:06 pm
Dugan sin bin in final minute.

Sin bin in every game this weekend....
How ridiculous is it...
From the twal binning...
Dylan walker getting sent off for being punched in The head.

It's very misused imo.
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Post by Tweed Tiger » Sun 20 May, 2018 6:13 pm

Demps wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 6:10 pm
Tweed Tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 6:06 pm
Dugan sin bin in final minute.

Sin bin in every game this weekend....
How ridiculous is it...
From the twal binning...
Dylan walker getting sent off for being punched in The head.

It's very misused imo.
Yeah way overused and inconsistent.

They miss an obvious sin binning when Mbye was tackled while in support of a break and instead sin bin players for a flop or getting punched in the face.


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Post by happy tiger » Sun 20 May, 2018 7:42 pm

Geo. wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 3:24 pm
Hmmmm Dragons March Premiership looking shakey...
Yeah real shaky Shakin Stevens :roll:

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Post by Geo. » Sun 20 May, 2018 7:44 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 7:42 pm
Geo. wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 3:24 pm
Hmmmm Dragons March Premiership looking shakey...
Yeah real shaky Shakin Stevens :roll:

Nostradamus come on down
Didn't watch it i take it...here's one Penriff will pump them...
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Post by happy tiger » Sun 20 May, 2018 7:45 pm

Geo. wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 7:44 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 7:42 pm
Geo. wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 3:24 pm
Hmmmm Dragons March Premiership looking shakey...
Yeah real shaky Shakin Stevens :roll:

Nostradamus come on down
Didn't watch it i take it...here's one Penriff will pump them...
Did , Saints barely got out of 2nd gear

The try Widdop scored was one of the tries of the year

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Post by NT Tiger » Sun 20 May, 2018 8:04 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 1:27 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 7:14 am
happy tiger wrote:
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Look maybe we just need to ask the refs who the Top 8 , Top 4 and premiers will be each season

Just had to nick out to BCF and the ABC Grandstand blokes are just blowing up , missed the two sin binnings
I'm heading towards this point of view. I can't remember a season as farcical as this in the refereeing stakes. Maybe it's the NRS's 'enforce everything' position this season, after years of coaches manipulating the rules and getting away with it, that is leaving ref's, coaches and players confused. I'm glad the NRL cracking down because it had to happen but until they have it sorted across the board it is going to look really ugly............ and boring
I can deal with them enforcing the rules

But in the space of 90 seconds in the Cowboys -Souths game they miss 4 players all offside all within the 10 metres when Feldt drops the short drop out

And then go 80 metres downfield and catch Granville offside

My point is this , if the refs are this bad , the game has a massive problem

My issue is I don't think they are that bad , they miss stuff and then hope that results fall a particular way


You could cop it if they explained post game or on their own show on Fox why particular decisions were made

Show would rate very well too imo , most would watch to find out why

If they make a mistake admit to it , gain some credibility that way

Mistakes happen , none of us are perfect , but at least if you own your mistakes and show accountability people can deal with it

True ??
Well if anyone truly believes that the refs are crook and determining the result then why do they watch the game? For me it is more a question of competence. If I get to the point I believe that they are fixing a result I'll be gone.
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Post by innsaneink » Sun 20 May, 2018 8:08 pm

I dont believe theyre attempting to fix a result as you say, but Ive long suspected some refs go into games with preconceived ideas on how things will go, I believe there's favoritism, I believe refs get personal and lose sight of their job

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Post by gallagher » Sun 20 May, 2018 8:10 pm

Demps wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 5:53 pm
Woods is getting clowned in this game.
What a dud.
His manager killed his career, he's not even in consideration for origin this year. What a dumbarse.

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Post by innsaneink » Sun 20 May, 2018 8:15 pm

Dogs played fairly well aginst the Sharks, they were in it til 10 to go before the sharks got over them...for a team with not a lot of attack they can hang in.
Wont be easy game for us at all...hopefully J Morris misses our game

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Post by Chicken Faced Killa » Sun 20 May, 2018 8:19 pm

On the ref thing when things are missed it is usually because they are looking at the play and miss something out of there side vision or aren’t 100% sure so hold back. It’s easy to say you missed this and that when watching on the TV at home because 1. you are not understand the pressure of making a decision in a moment.
2. You’re not under fatigue
3. You’ve generally good a good angle without other bodies in the way.
4. You aren’t trying to get in position.

I like Happy’s idea of a ref on fox - they did have a similar style show on NRL.com when Archer was ref boss where they looked at and explained decisions.

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Post by happy tiger » Sun 20 May, 2018 8:45 pm

NT Tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 8:04 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 1:27 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 7:14 am
happy tiger wrote:
Sat 19 May, 2018 4:40 pm
Look maybe we just need to ask the refs who the Top 8 , Top 4 and premiers will be each season

Just had to nick out to BCF and the ABC Grandstand blokes are just blowing up , missed the two sin binnings
I'm heading towards this point of view. I can't remember a season as farcical as this in the refereeing stakes. Maybe it's the NRS's 'enforce everything' position this season, after years of coaches manipulating the rules and getting away with it, that is leaving ref's, coaches and players confused. I'm glad the NRL cracking down because it had to happen but until they have it sorted across the board it is going to look really ugly............ and boring
I can deal with them enforcing the rules

But in the space of 90 seconds in the Cowboys -Souths game they miss 4 players all offside all within the 10 metres when Feldt drops the short drop out

And then go 80 metres downfield and catch Granville offside

My point is this , if the refs are this bad , the game has a massive problem

My issue is I don't think they are that bad , they miss stuff and then hope that results fall a particular way


You could cop it if they explained post game or on their own show on Fox why particular decisions were made

Show would rate very well too imo , most would watch to find out why

If they make a mistake admit to it , gain some credibility that way

Mistakes happen , none of us are perfect , but at least if you own your mistakes and show accountability people can deal with it

True ??
Well if anyone truly believes that the refs are crook and determining the result then why do they watch the game? For me it is more a question of competence. If I get to the point I believe that they are fixing a result I'll be gone.
I'm trying to think of the best way to word this , lets try this , Refs feel under pressure if the favoured side doesn't win

I guess like everyone this is their career , and when they ref and lots of favourites lose people ask questions

Easier on a 50/50 call to penalize the team expected to lose , home side, less rated player , you get where I'm going ...

Just remember my comments were based on that game , watch the replay , how do you miss 4 players offside on arguably the 2nd biggest play in the game ??

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Sun 20 May, 2018 8:51 pm

Demps wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 6:10 pm
Tweed Tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 6:06 pm
Dugan sin bin in final minute.

Sin bin in every game this weekend....
How ridiculous is it...
From the twal binning...
Dylan walker getting sent off for being punched in The head.

It's very misused imo.
Walker plays for Manly, ought to be marched just for that.
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Post by westTAHger » Sun 20 May, 2018 8:58 pm

Yeah this score has happened
Dragons 25 Raiders 18.

Now just waiting for footy gods for to smile and a score of:
wests tigers 25
opponents 18
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Basil, our rescue dog, is wondering when wests tigers will win 25 - 18 :D

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Post by formerguest » Sun 20 May, 2018 9:08 pm

westTAHger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 8:58 pm
Yeah this score has happened
Dragons 25 Raiders 18.

Now just waiting for footy gods for to smile and a score of:
wests tigers 25
opponents 18
Yeah, my thoughts were with you when I caught the final score. You are certainly persistent.

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Post by NT Tiger » Sun 20 May, 2018 9:10 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 8:45 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 8:04 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 1:27 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Sun 20 May, 2018 7:14 am


I'm heading towards this point of view. I can't remember a season as farcical as this in the refereeing stakes. Maybe it's the NRS's 'enforce everything' position this season, after years of coaches manipulating the rules and getting away with it, that is leaving ref's, coaches and players confused. I'm glad the NRL cracking down because it had to happen but until they have it sorted across the board it is going to look really ugly............ and boring
I can deal with them enforcing the rules

But in the space of 90 seconds in the Cowboys -Souths game they miss 4 players all offside all within the 10 metres when Feldt drops the short drop out

And then go 80 metres downfield and catch Granville offside

My point is this , if the refs are this bad , the game has a massive problem

My issue is I don't think they are that bad , they miss stuff and then hope that results fall a particular way


You could cop it if they explained post game or on their own show on Fox why particular decisions were made

Show would rate very well too imo , most would watch to find out why

If they make a mistake admit to it , gain some credibility that way

Mistakes happen , none of us are perfect , but at least if you own your mistakes and show accountability people can deal with it

True ??
Well if anyone truly believes that the refs are crook and determining the result then why do they watch the game? For me it is more a question of competence. If I get to the point I believe that they are fixing a result I'll be gone.
I'm trying to think of the best way to word this , lets try this , Refs feel under pressure if the favoured side doesn't win

I guess like everyone this is their career , and when they ref and lots of favourites lose people ask questions

Easier on a 50/50 call to penalize the team expected to lose , home side, less rated player , you get where I'm going ...

Just remember my comments were based on that game , watch the replay , how do you miss 4 players offside on arguably the 2nd biggest play in the game ??
I think that it is almost naturally the case that as Ink said 'refs have a preconceived idea of how things will go'. That is human nature.
However with all of the high tech scrutiny (and resulting criticism) they are performing under I don't believe they would push that envelope deliberately.
I think that the current crackdown on basic play has highlighted referee decision making. I hope that if the NRL is interested in maintaining viewer interest it will be reviewing the referee decisions made, and how they influenced the outcome, in each game.
"Quality Stupidity"

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