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Post by Milky » Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:10 pm

Every week 272 players take the field.

There is such a disparity between the top 8 and bottom 8.

In a nation of 24 million in Australia, there isn’t 272 elite rugby league players.

When you think of it, it should be gun players all round, its not that many players...


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Post by Geo. » Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:22 pm

What are the numbers between 19-34..

What team have you signed for..?
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Post by hobbo » Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:46 pm

Geo. wrote:
Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:22 pm
What are the numbers between 19-34..

What team have you signed for..?
Time for a sport census
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Post by Cultured Bogan » Sun 08 Jul, 2018 8:55 pm

OP reads like a charity commercial.
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Post by Demps » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 8:45 am

I had lengthy discussions with a talented under 20s Newcastle knights player, current QLD cup player I believe.... PM if you want to know the name...

He showed me the opposition team breakdown sheet... It was interesting. Had a detailed break down on each player and their weaknesses and what they're known to do /favour. This was for a NSW cup game.

Anyway, this guy was a similar build and style player to Alex mckinnon who was playing well at the time (pre injury)...

I asked if he Thought he'd ever play first grade? He replied, "that is the dream"... But then went onto explain its all politics and very clique orientated... Not what u know but who u know... That's why other not as good players get the push over the others.... Nrl is like a cult in that regard.

Well at least in a small town like Newcastle.
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Post by Demps » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 8:46 am

Cultured Bogan wrote:
Sun 08 Jul, 2018 8:55 pm
OP reads like a charity commercial.
Lol, true...
Good thread tho.
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Post by jirskyr » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:19 am

Milky wrote:
Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:10 pm
In a nation of 24 million in Australia, there isn’t 272 elite rugby league players.

When you think of it, it should be gun players all round, its not that many players...
Well, you gotta put some thought into this.

Population of Australia is 24 million. But rugby league really has minimal reach anywhere but QLD, NSW and ACT (7.5 + 4.7 + 0.4) = 12.6 million. Of those 12.6 million, half are women and 68% are 25 years or older (if you aren't playing NRL by the age of 25 you probably aren't going to have a career in it).

That leaves 2 million kids you could reach to become elite rugby league footballers. In 2008 NRL claimed junior rugby league participation of 269,377 kids Australia-wide, in all schools-level competition. NRL also claims a national player base of over 1M people, but this now includes touch football.

So of 2 million kids we know about 10% participate in rugby league at some kind of school level, but not necessarily weekend sport (could be knock-out type comps). Compare this with soccer, where 50% of kids actively involved in sport play the round-ball game (30% basketball and 25% cricket); according to Australian Sports Camps.

So you have about 250K kids playing footy, of which about half can be expected to also play soccer and a quarter also play cricket.

So perhaps 100-125K kids focused on rugby league.

Now of those, how many can reasonably be expected to have the talent to play any kind of club footy, let alone NRL? 5%? Down to 5K kids who might get selected in rep/club teams, and of those we know about 5% go on to make it in the NRL, so 5% of 5,000 = 250.

There's your number.

If we were talking a truly national game, you could expect to have around double the elite players, so either twice as many teams, or twice as much competition for the same number of teams.

But 24M people playing league, union, soccer, cricket, basketball, AFL, swimming, gymnastics, athletics, netball, cycling, surfing etc. etc. we just don't have the cattle.

There are 1.32B Indians to choose from in cricket and their teams are no better than ours. There are 1.37B Chinese and they can't even make the football world cup.

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Post by Demps » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:23 am

Wow.
Amazing post.
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Post by Cultured Bogan » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:31 am

Quick maffs...
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Post by Geo. » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:41 am

Happy would still be taking off his socks..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by hobbo » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:44 am

jirskyr wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:19 am
Milky wrote:
Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:10 pm
In a nation of 24 million in Australia, there isn’t 272 elite rugby league players.

When you think of it, it should be gun players all round, its not that many players...
Well, you gotta put some thought into this.

Population of Australia is 24 million. But rugby league really has minimal reach anywhere but QLD, NSW and ACT (7.5 + 4.7 + 0.4) = 12.6 million. Of those 12.6 million, half are women and 68% are 25 years or older (if you aren't playing NRL by the age of 25 you probably aren't going to have a career in it).

That leaves 2 million kids you could reach to become elite rugby league footballers. In 2008 NRL claimed junior rugby league participation of 269,377 kids Australia-wide, in all schools-level competition. NRL also claims a national player base of over 1M people, but this now includes touch football.

So of 2 million kids we know about 10% participate in rugby league at some kind of school level, but not necessarily weekend sport (could be knock-out type comps). Compare this with soccer, where 50% of kids actively involved in sport play the round-ball game (30% basketball and 25% cricket); according to Australian Sports Camps.

So you have about 250K kids playing footy, of which about half can be expected to also play soccer and a quarter also play cricket.

So perhaps 100-125K kids focused on rugby league.

Now of those, how many can reasonably be expected to have the talent to play any kind of club footy, let alone NRL? 5%? Down to 5K kids who might get selected in rep/club teams, and of those we know about 5% go on to make it in the NRL, so 5% of 5,000 = 250.

There's your number.

If we were talking a truly national game, you could expect to have around double the elite players, so either twice as many teams, or twice as much competition for the same number of teams.

But 24M people playing league, union, soccer, cricket, basketball, AFL, swimming, gymnastics, athletics, netball, cycling, surfing etc. etc. we just don't have the cattle.

There are 1.32B Indians to choose from in cricket and their teams are no better than ours. There are 1.37B Chinese and they can't even make the football world cup.
Can you do my tax return?
We need mongrel ..
No more plodders !

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:28 am

jirskyr wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:19 am
Milky wrote:
Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:10 pm
In a nation of 24 million in Australia, there isn’t 272 elite rugby league players.

When you think of it, it should be gun players all round, its not that many players...
Well, you gotta put some thought into this.

Population of Australia is 24 million. But rugby league really has minimal reach anywhere but QLD, NSW and ACT (7.5 + 4.7 + 0.4) = 12.6 million. Of those 12.6 million, half are women and 68% are 25 years or older (if you aren't playing NRL by the age of 25 you probably aren't going to have a career in it).

That leaves 2 million kids you could reach to become elite rugby league footballers. In 2008 NRL claimed junior rugby league participation of 269,377 kids Australia-wide, in all schools-level competition. NRL also claims a national player base of over 1M people, but this now includes touch football.

So of 2 million kids we know about 10% participate in rugby league at some kind of school level, but not necessarily weekend sport (could be knock-out type comps). Compare this with soccer, where 50% of kids actively involved in sport play the round-ball game (30% basketball and 25% cricket); according to Australian Sports Camps.

So you have about 250K kids playing footy, of which about half can be expected to also play soccer and a quarter also play cricket.

So perhaps 100-125K kids focused on rugby league.

Now of those, how many can reasonably be expected to have the talent to play any kind of club footy, let alone NRL? 5%? Down to 5K kids who might get selected in rep/club teams, and of those we know about 5% go on to make it in the NRL, so 5% of 5,000 = 250.

There's your number.

If we were talking a truly national game, you could expect to have around double the elite players, so either twice as many teams, or twice as much competition for the same number of teams.

But 24M people playing league, union, soccer, cricket, basketball, AFL, swimming, gymnastics, athletics, netball, cycling, surfing etc. etc. we just don't have the cattle.

There are 1.32B Indians to choose from in cricket and their teams are no better than ours. There are 1.37B Chinese and they can't even make the football world cup.
Makes what Uruguay managed to do in the World Cup with a population of less than 3.5 million simple amazing

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Post by Spartan117 » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:31 am

of my three kids, only one still plays for the Milperra Colts. (actually played at Accursed Belmore on Saturday)

The clubs in the area in general struggle to fill teams as they get older.

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:34 am

hobbo wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:44 am
jirskyr wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:19 am
Milky wrote:
Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:10 pm
In a nation of 24 million in Australia, there isn’t 272 elite rugby league players.

When you think of it, it should be gun players all round, its not that many players...
Well, you gotta put some thought into this.

Population of Australia is 24 million. But rugby league really has minimal reach anywhere but QLD, NSW and ACT (7.5 + 4.7 + 0.4) = 12.6 million. Of those 12.6 million, half are women and 68% are 25 years or older (if you aren't playing NRL by the age of 25 you probably aren't going to have a career in it).

That leaves 2 million kids you could reach to become elite rugby league footballers. In 2008 NRL claimed junior rugby league participation of 269,377 kids Australia-wide, in all schools-level competition. NRL also claims a national player base of over 1M people, but this now includes touch football.

So of 2 million kids we know about 10% participate in rugby league at some kind of school level, but not necessarily weekend sport (could be knock-out type comps). Compare this with soccer, where 50% of kids actively involved in sport play the round-ball game (30% basketball and 25% cricket); according to Australian Sports Camps.

So you have about 250K kids playing footy, of which about half can be expected to also play soccer and a quarter also play cricket.

So perhaps 100-125K kids focused on rugby league.

Now of those, how many can reasonably be expected to have the talent to play any kind of club footy, let alone NRL? 5%? Down to 5K kids who might get selected in rep/club teams, and of those we know about 5% go on to make it in the NRL, so 5% of 5,000 = 250.

There's your number.

If we were talking a truly national game, you could expect to have around double the elite players, so either twice as many teams, or twice as much competition for the same number of teams.

But 24M people playing league, union, soccer, cricket, basketball, AFL, swimming, gymnastics, athletics, netball, cycling, surfing etc. etc. we just don't have the cattle.

There are 1.32B Indians to choose from in cricket and their teams are no better than ours. There are 1.37B Chinese and they can't even make the football world cup.
Can you do my tax return?
Do you earn 15 k a year ??

I thought you got paid in meals ??

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Post by hobbo » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:38 am

happy tiger wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:34 am
hobbo wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:44 am
jirskyr wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:19 am
Milky wrote:
Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:10 pm
In a nation of 24 million in Australia, there isn’t 272 elite rugby league players.

When you think of it, it should be gun players all round, its not that many players...
Well, you gotta put some thought into this.

Population of Australia is 24 million. But rugby league really has minimal reach anywhere but QLD, NSW and ACT (7.5 + 4.7 + 0.4) = 12.6 million. Of those 12.6 million, half are women and 68% are 25 years or older (if you aren't playing NRL by the age of 25 you probably aren't going to have a career in it).

That leaves 2 million kids you could reach to become elite rugby league footballers. In 2008 NRL claimed junior rugby league participation of 269,377 kids Australia-wide, in all schools-level competition. NRL also claims a national player base of over 1M people, but this now includes touch football.

So of 2 million kids we know about 10% participate in rugby league at some kind of school level, but not necessarily weekend sport (could be knock-out type comps). Compare this with soccer, where 50% of kids actively involved in sport play the round-ball game (30% basketball and 25% cricket); according to Australian Sports Camps.

So you have about 250K kids playing footy, of which about half can be expected to also play soccer and a quarter also play cricket.

So perhaps 100-125K kids focused on rugby league.

Now of those, how many can reasonably be expected to have the talent to play any kind of club footy, let alone NRL? 5%? Down to 5K kids who might get selected in rep/club teams, and of those we know about 5% go on to make it in the NRL, so 5% of 5,000 = 250.

There's your number.

If we were talking a truly national game, you could expect to have around double the elite players, so either twice as many teams, or twice as much competition for the same number of teams.

But 24M people playing league, union, soccer, cricket, basketball, AFL, swimming, gymnastics, athletics, netball, cycling, surfing etc. etc. we just don't have the cattle.

There are 1.32B Indians to choose from in cricket and their teams are no better than ours. There are 1.37B Chinese and they can't even make the football world cup.
Can you do my tax return?
Do you earn 15 k a year ??

I thought you got paid in meals ??
It’s all in the quote!
We need mongrel ..
No more plodders !

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Post by foreveratiger » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:40 am

happy tiger wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:28 am
jirskyr wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:19 am
Milky wrote:
Sun 08 Jul, 2018 7:10 pm
In a nation of 24 million in Australia, there isn’t 272 elite rugby league players.

When you think of it, it should be gun players all round, its not that many players...
Well, you gotta put some thought into this.

Population of Australia is 24 million. But rugby league really has minimal reach anywhere but QLD, NSW and ACT (7.5 + 4.7 + 0.4) = 12.6 million. Of those 12.6 million, half are women and 68% are 25 years or older (if you aren't playing NRL by the age of 25 you probably aren't going to have a career in it).

That leaves 2 million kids you could reach to become elite rugby league footballers. In 2008 NRL claimed junior rugby league participation of 269,377 kids Australia-wide, in all schools-level competition. NRL also claims a national player base of over 1M people, but this now includes touch football.

So of 2 million kids we know about 10% participate in rugby league at some kind of school level, but not necessarily weekend sport (could be knock-out type comps). Compare this with soccer, where 50% of kids actively involved in sport play the round-ball game (30% basketball and 25% cricket); according to Australian Sports Camps.

So you have about 250K kids playing footy, of which about half can be expected to also play soccer and a quarter also play cricket.

So perhaps 100-125K kids focused on rugby league.

Now of those, how many can reasonably be expected to have the talent to play any kind of club footy, let alone NRL? 5%? Down to 5K kids who might get selected in rep/club teams, and of those we know about 5% go on to make it in the NRL, so 5% of 5,000 = 250.

There's your number.

If we were talking a truly national game, you could expect to have around double the elite players, so either twice as many teams, or twice as much competition for the same number of teams.

But 24M people playing league, union, soccer, cricket, basketball, AFL, swimming, gymnastics, athletics, netball, cycling, surfing etc. etc. we just don't have the cattle.

There are 1.32B Indians to choose from in cricket and their teams are no better than ours. There are 1.37B Chinese and they can't even make the football world cup.
Makes what Uruguay managed to do in the World Cup with a population of less than 3.5 million simple amazing
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Post by happy tiger » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:41 am

hobbo wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:38 am
happy tiger wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:34 am
hobbo wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:44 am
jirskyr wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 10:19 am

Well, you gotta put some thought into this.

Population of Australia is 24 million. But rugby league really has minimal reach anywhere but QLD, NSW and ACT (7.5 + 4.7 + 0.4) = 12.6 million. Of those 12.6 million, half are women and 68% are 25 years or older (if you aren't playing NRL by the age of 25 you probably aren't going to have a career in it).

That leaves 2 million kids you could reach to become elite rugby league footballers. In 2008 NRL claimed junior rugby league participation of 269,377 kids Australia-wide, in all schools-level competition. NRL also claims a national player base of over 1M people, but this now includes touch football.

So of 2 million kids we know about 10% participate in rugby league at some kind of school level, but not necessarily weekend sport (could be knock-out type comps). Compare this with soccer, where 50% of kids actively involved in sport play the round-ball game (30% basketball and 25% cricket); according to Australian Sports Camps.

So you have about 250K kids playing footy, of which about half can be expected to also play soccer and a quarter also play cricket.

So perhaps 100-125K kids focused on rugby league.

Now of those, how many can reasonably be expected to have the talent to play any kind of club footy, let alone NRL? 5%? Down to 5K kids who might get selected in rep/club teams, and of those we know about 5% go on to make it in the NRL, so 5% of 5,000 = 250.

There's your number.

If we were talking a truly national game, you could expect to have around double the elite players, so either twice as many teams, or twice as much competition for the same number of teams.

But 24M people playing league, union, soccer, cricket, basketball, AFL, swimming, gymnastics, athletics, netball, cycling, surfing etc. etc. we just don't have the cattle.

There are 1.32B Indians to choose from in cricket and their teams are no better than ours. There are 1.37B Chinese and they can't even make the football world cup.
Can you do my tax return?
Do you earn 15 k a year ??

I thought you got paid in meals ??
It’s all in the quote!
Are the eggs caged or free range ??

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Post by Tiger Steve » Mon 09 Jul, 2018 11:42 am

Demps wrote:
Mon 09 Jul, 2018 8:45 am
I had lengthy discussions with a talented under 20s Newcastle knights player, current QLD cup player I believe.... PM if you want to know the name...

He showed me the opposition team breakdown sheet... It was interesting. Had a detailed break down on each player and their weaknesses and what they're known to do /favour. This was for a NSW cup game.

Anyway, this guy was a similar build and style player to Alex mckinnon who was playing well at the time (pre injury)...

I asked if he Thought he'd ever play first grade? He replied, "that is the dream"... But then went onto explain its all politics and very clique orientated... Not what u know but who u know... That's why other not as good players get the push over the others.... Nrl is like a cult in that regard.

Well at least in a small town like Newcastle.
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