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Rugby League is dying in the bush

Post by Byron Bay Fan » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 7:37 am

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https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5003 ... -the-bush/

OPINION: Brian Burke writes on the demise of rugby league in the bush


DIFFERENT TIMES: Brian Burke with a Country jumper he wore against Queensland at Newcastle before 25,000 fans. Picture: Max Mason-Hubers.

DIFFERENT TIMES: Brian Burke with a Country jumper he wore against Queensland at Newcastle before 25,000 fans. Picture: Max Mason-Hubers.

Former NSW league champion Brian Burke contacted the Fairfax Media to talk about his fears for the health of rugby league. He says it is dying, and is so worried he will write to NRL chief Todd Greenberg to express his concerns. Here are his thoughts.
Dear Todd,
Let me come straight to the point: Rugby League is dying in the bush and it's on your watch.

I'm not saying it's your fault in particular - this has been going on for a while and it's painful to see - but nonetheless you are the man in the hot seat right now.

And for that reason I am going to sit down later this week and write to you explaining the situation we have up here. More than that, I'm going to be begging you for help. And make no mistake, we need it.

Where to start?

I'm alarmed at the slow but undeniable demise of our game. It's dying in the bush and it's dead in schools. That’s your breeding ground for the future – and it’s had its last rites. And boy, doesn’t it show at the senior level.

On talkback radio this week it was said that rugby league would be dead in 20 years. On current evidence it’s hard to argue.

So I want to know what you plan to do?

Your direct opponents, soccer and AFL, have not only taken hold but are thriving.

It reminds me of the famous old quote from rugby league great Arthur Summons on a country tour in Queensland: ‘the trouble with rugby league is the governing body don’t realise the game is played south of Cronulla and north of the Hawkesbury River”.

We have the situation of falling crowds because just about every game can be seen on television, the cost of going a game is too high, Channel Nine footy ratings are on the slide … how much evidence do we need?

We have lost everything that made the game great. All tradition has gone.

We’ve gone from unlimited to four tackles then six tackles, five metres to 10 metres, three point to four point tries, one point field goals, no replacement to two replacements that had to have played an earlier game, to 12 replacements to eight replacements, one referee, two referees, 3pm start to 7.30pm start – no wonder we’re confused.

Let’s look at the ridiculous situation of Cameron Smith. He will go down in history as the greatest hooker to ever have played the game – and he has never hooked for a ball. So, how about we rename his position – let’s call it dummy-half.

Yet while all this is going on, in the AFL we know that next September the grand final will be played at 2.30pm on a Saturday and that the MCG will be chockers. We don't know who will be there, but the atmosphere will be incredible.

But what is going to happen with the league? A day game? A night game? Maybe a twilight game? Who knows, we've tried all three. And what uniforms will they wear? It seems every club has four jumpers.

Does St George really want to play in any jumper except white with a big red vee?

AFL and football - soccer to many of us - are making major inroads. Rugby Union too.

We need our kids to get back to basics, like playing in weight divisions. There’s nothing more demoralising for a kid than to come up against a monster who happens to be the same age.

We and the game need some serious help. So I ask again Todd, what are you going to do about it?

- BRIAN BURKE
The Maitland Mercury
Malcolm Knox: What has happened this week is a pity for the Tigers, a pity for Jason Taylor and a pity for Robbie Farah, who had achieved more than the Big Four put together but was somehow turned into collateral damage. (SMH 25-26 March, 2017)


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Post by goldcoast tiger » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 7:51 am

He right, the AFL posts are multiplying all over the bush

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Post by Byron Bay Fan » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 7:55 am

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 7:51 am
He right, the AFL posts are multiplying all over the bush
I have already mentioned how tempted I am to graffiti their AFL sign here in Byron Bay - almost as much RL blood has been spilt here as in the whaling days
Malcolm Knox: What has happened this week is a pity for the Tigers, a pity for Jason Taylor and a pity for Robbie Farah, who had achieved more than the Big Four put together but was somehow turned into collateral damage. (SMH 25-26 March, 2017)

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Post by tiger05premier » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 8:42 am

The NRL would rather look after the roosters who have very few supporters a couple of juniors

BUT

have very deep pockets

I went to narrabri for the 1st time a few months ago with work and was shocked to see AFL posts ser up at the local ground

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Post by Russell » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 8:46 am

More to the point - what does Brian Burke want the League to do about it.

How about he makes some suggestions instead of criticisms, Anyone can do that.

If he expects Beattie, Greenberg et al to come up with credible solutions then the game will be dead.


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Post by Demps » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 8:48 am

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 7:55 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 7:51 am
He right, the AFL posts are multiplying all over the bush
I have already mentioned how tempted I am to graffiti their AFL sign here in Byron Bay - almost as much RL blood has been spilt here as in the whaling days
Do it!
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Post by tiger05premier » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:01 am

Russell wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 8:46 am
More to the point - what does Brian Burke want the League to do about it.

How about he makes some suggestions instead of criticisms, Anyone can do that.

If he expects Beattie, Greenberg et al to come up with credible solutions then the game will be dead.
Maybe every NRL club could be given a grassroots country area to look after and develop

Panthers have Bathurst

Tigers Tamworth

Other teams could pick up Dubbo etc

Take one game there per year

A couple of times a year, maybe around byes and rep weekend, they could spend 2 or 3 nights in the town they are looking after

They could visit schools. Do training clinics. Invite surrounding towns juniors to participate or even visit the surrounding towns.

Have fundraising nights maybe while there to help the clubs to buy equipment

The towns would love it

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Post by tsjonathan » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:07 am

Rugby League is dead in the city.

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Post by Silentio » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:20 am

He has some good points as well as some dumb ones.

What he fails to mention or realise is that a lot of country towns are dying. And that's not something the NRL can fix.

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Post by innsaneink » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:36 am

Russell wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 8:46 am
More to the point - what does Brian Burke want the League to do about it.

How about he makes some suggestions instead of criticisms, Anyone can do that.

If he expects Beattie, Greenberg et al to come up with credible solutions then the game will be dead.
Why should an ex footy player know what to do?
Shouldn't those RUNNING THE Game (supposedly) know what to do?

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:44 am

tiger05premier wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:01 am
Russell wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 8:46 am
More to the point - what does Brian Burke want the League to do about it.

How about he makes some suggestions instead of criticisms, Anyone can do that.

If he expects Beattie, Greenberg et al to come up with credible solutions then the game will be dead.
Maybe every NRL club could be given a grassroots country area to look after and develop

Panthers have Bathurst

Tigers Tamworth

Other teams could pick up Dubbo etc

Take one game there per year

A couple of times a year, maybe around byes and rep weekend, they could spend 2 or 3 nights in the town they are looking after

They could visit schools. Do training clinics. Invite surrounding towns juniors to participate or even visit the surrounding towns.

Have fundraising nights maybe while there to help the clubs to buy equipment

The towns would love it
That was supposed to have been started years ago, but it just fizzled out and never got going

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Post by tiger05premier » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 10:30 am

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:44 am
tiger05premier wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:01 am
Russell wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 8:46 am
More to the point - what does Brian Burke want the League to do about it.

How about he makes some suggestions instead of criticisms, Anyone can do that.

If he expects Beattie, Greenberg et al to come up with credible solutions then the game will be dead.
Maybe every NRL club could be given a grassroots country area to look after and develop

Panthers have Bathurst

Tigers Tamworth

Other teams could pick up Dubbo etc

Take one game there per year

A couple of times a year, maybe around byes and rep weekend, they could spend 2 or 3 nights in the town they are looking after

They could visit schools. Do training clinics. Invite surrounding towns juniors to participate or even visit the surrounding towns.

Have fundraising nights maybe while there to help the clubs to buy equipment

The towns would love it
That was supposed to have been started years ago, but it just fizzled out and never got going
Oh well

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Post by Russell » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 12:20 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:36 am
Russell wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 8:46 am
More to the point - what does Brian Burke want the League to do about it.

How about he makes some suggestions instead of criticisms, Anyone can do that.

If he expects Beattie, Greenberg et al to come up with credible solutions then the game will be dead.
Why should an ex footy player know what to do?
Shouldn't those RUNNING THE Game (supposedly) know what to do?
They should, you are correct as usual Ink but on past performance do they look like they have any answers?

They need it spelled out for them and then I doubt if they have the nous to adopt anything put forward.

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Post by jirskyr » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 2:58 pm

One of the major problems that nobody can fix is that league is a continuous contact sport. Soccer is barely contact and AFL is partial contact, i.e. you don't have to run and get tackled every play.

Parents are gradually shifting their kids away from contact sports.

Myself, I played league until I was 14 but in those last few years I was simply too small to compete with the mini-men that had developed. When you are playing against kids with beards, you know you are in for a rough time.

AFL doesn't have the same issue, you can run around the big loppers and actually AFL isn't made for the big units at all because there's too much running - only fit guys, skinny guys, tall guys.

How does NRL overcome this? How do you bring kids into the game, hold them whilst the physical development changes over several years, and still have them willing and able to tackle a big man by the time they turn 18?

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Post by hobbo » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 3:08 pm

jirskyr wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 2:58 pm
One of the major problems that nobody can fix is that league is a continuous contact sport. Soccer is barely contact and AFL is partial contact, i.e. you don't have to run and get tackled every play.

Parents are gradually shifting their kids away from contact sports.

Myself, I played league until I was 14 but in those last few years I was simply too small to compete with the mini-men that had developed. When you are playing against kids with beards, you know you are in for a rough time.

AFL doesn't have the same issue, you can run around the big loppers and actually AFL isn't made for the big units at all because there's too much running - only fit guys, skinny guys, tall guys.

How does NRL overcome this? How do you bring kids into the game, hold them whilst the physical development changes over several years, and still have them willing and able to tackle a big man by the time they turn 18?
They have to bring in weight for age ,
It’s the only logical answer ..
We need mongrel ..
No more plodders !

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Post by Harvey » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 4:42 pm

Rugby league is dying everywhere. Above under 13’s most junior metropolitan leagues merge so they actually have a competition

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Post by Chicken Faced Killa » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 5:33 pm

tiger05premier wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 9:01 am
Russell wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 8:46 am
More to the point - what does Brian Burke want the League to do about it.

How about he makes some suggestions instead of criticisms, Anyone can do that.

If he expects Beattie, Greenberg et al to come up with credible solutions then the game will be dead.
Maybe every NRL club could be given a grassroots country area to look after and develop

Panthers have Bathurst

Tigers Tamworth

Other teams could pick up Dubbo etc

Take one game there per year

A couple of times a year, maybe around byes and rep weekend, they could spend 2 or 3 nights in the town they are looking after

They could visit schools. Do training clinics. Invite surrounding towns juniors to participate or even visit the surrounding towns.

Have fundraising nights maybe while there to help the clubs to buy equipment

The towns would love it
I think this idea is the go and ha e mentioned it to people in the past. If each club had a country area to partner with and grow it can only be good for the game.

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Post by Chicken Faced Killa » Wed 18 Jul, 2018 5:34 pm

Harvey wrote:
Wed 18 Jul, 2018 4:42 pm
Rugby league is dying everywhere. Above under 13’s most junior metropolitan leagues merge so they actually have a competition
Most sports lose players from 13/14’s up due to other interests taking hold. The question is how to you ensure ex players remain fans

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