Johns: $12m salary cap in a bid to reduce NRL to 12-teams

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Re: Johns: $12m salary cap in a bid to reduce NRL to 12-teams

Post by WT2K » Tue 04 Sep, 2018 1:44 pm

Pretty sure beattie is set on expanding the comp and not reducing it.
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Post by Harvey » Tue 04 Sep, 2018 4:57 pm

With his party boy lifestyle, I am surprised he is not rambling on about basketball in the Phillipines

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Post by innsaneink » Tue 04 Sep, 2018 5:02 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Sep, 2018 11:12 am
Cairnstigers wrote:
Tue 04 Sep, 2018 7:04 am
Russell wrote:
Mon 03 Sep, 2018 10:04 pm
If he wants a 12 team competition:

Get rid of Brisbane, Melbourne, North QLD and Warriors.....Easy

Then Newcastle and Canberra - down to 10 ... no worries Joey.

Then you could bring back Bears and Newtown and start again.
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It was called Super League

Almost tore the game apart

We need to look at what the AFL have done , they have made their competition a truly national comp , moved two sides that have become success stories
Is it because AFL is seen as a softer, safer game for kids?
Wouldnt that make it more difficult for us?
How can we go putting goalposts in every school in SA, WA etc?
Does the NRL have the funds, determination and the patience to do what the AFL have done with the Swans for example?
Im not disagreeing with you by the way....Perth, another Bris/Qld team, PNG, hell even Tongas a possibility down the track...which would be good

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Post by WT2K » Tue 04 Sep, 2018 6:06 pm

His mate Freddy has suggested Manly and the bears merge again haha.
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Post by Cairnstigers » Thu 20 Sep, 2018 8:58 pm

What about two teams merging
They get a total of $18.8 million per year for 3 years (current 2 teams combined cap)
They also get a 50% loading on salary cap payments to players for those 3 years
Eg: instead of $9.4 million per year an extra $4.7 million a year for 3 years as an incentive to merge
The other money 3 × $4.7million can go towards a COE

This could make two clubs who have struggled into one powerful club
It would give opportunity to sign some of the best players and make a powerhouse team

If the supporters continued to follow the merged teams it would have one of the biggest supporter bases in the competition

It would reduce the amount of sydney clubs which would suit the nrl

But it will only work if an agreement could be reached by existing clubs on
1: Identity
2: The running of the team
3 : Home games

You could still keep two leagues clubs but they would need to keep the same names
Eg: Tigers West and Tigers North (just an example)
Still the tigers or what ever name the merged teams come up with

Just a thought
If the Nrl want it to happen then they need to show the money

Any two sydney clubs can take up the offer


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Post by supercoach » Thu 20 Sep, 2018 9:31 pm

Cairnstigers wrote:
Thu 20 Sep, 2018 8:58 pm
What about two teams merging
They get a total of $18.8 million per year for 3 years (current 2 teams combined cap)
They also get a 50% loading on salary cap payments to players for those 3 years
Eg: instead of $9.4 million per year an extra $4.7 million a year for 3 years as an incentive to merge
The other money 3 × $4.7million can go towards a COE

This could make two clubs who have struggled into one powerful club
It would give opportunity to sign some of the best players and make a powerhouse team

If the supporters continued to follow the merged teams it would have one of the biggest supporter bases in the competition

It would reduce the amount of sydney clubs which would suit the nrl

But it will only work if an agreement could be reached by existing clubs on
1: Identity
2: The running of the team
3 : Home games

You could still keep two leagues clubs but they would need to keep the same names
Eg: Tigers West and Tigers North (just an example)
Still the tigers or what ever name the merged teams come up with

Just a thought
If the Nrl want it to happen then they need to show the money

Any two sydney clubs can take up the offer

Mate that’s what they basically do in AFL, they really give a new team or a
Newly relocated team a massive leg up. It is obvious to all that we need to reshape where teams are located, especially in the Sydney market. Although it has to be remembered in every comp no matter how strong teams finish in a order One through last

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Post by shakey4d » Fri 21 Sep, 2018 2:49 pm

Why stop there. Cut the league to two teams, NSW and QLD. Give them a $50M cap. Play 26 rounds of state of origin.

Johns is an idiot.

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Post by Swordy » Fri 21 Sep, 2018 3:23 pm

I'm sure if the first team to be cut was Newcastle that he would change his mind. They were wooden spooners several times recently so based on performance, seeya later.
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Post by tiger05premier » Fri 21 Sep, 2018 3:43 pm

Would Johns feel the same about cutting the numbers if his side was one of the club's that was in danger of having to merge or fold

He is only putting this idea forward because he knows the knights will be a part of the 12 team comp

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Post by Harvey » Fri 21 Sep, 2018 3:46 pm

Make NRL players pass drug and IQ tests. That will cut the number of players available

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Post by Fibros » Fri 21 Sep, 2018 4:00 pm

Joey trying to win the 1/2 wit award from Blocker this year?
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Post by Onthebus » Sun 30 Sep, 2018 12:43 pm

I swear the Rorters are paying people to say these brain dead statements

Teddy stated...
*always to play for the Rorters
*was a local Rorters junior
*massive fan base

Joey, Freddy and Turdy sharing the same bong

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Post by diedpretty » Sun 30 Sep, 2018 12:54 pm

jirskyr wrote:
Mon 03 Sep, 2018 10:18 pm
Tigerdon wrote:
Mon 03 Sep, 2018 8:27 pm
That would be a quick way to destroy League in Sydney.
League in Sydney is tribal. It's about smashing other Sydney teams. It's built on hating teams like Manly, the Bulldogs, Parra, Souths, Easts ect. League in Qld is about hating NSW.
Big spending teams like the Roosters don't get the fans. What do you think fans will do if you cut their team? Go and support the team that remains in Sydney? Or tune into other codes?
I agree.

Rugby League is on a knife's edge in terms of staying level with AFL and staying on top of union and soccer. Perhaps you can merge clubs in Sydney and keep the fans, or perhaps they turn away in droves.

Would Tigers or Dragons fans cop another merger, after already going through the first one and finally developing a new club culture?

Can Dogs and Eels fans ever really join together?

You need to grow the product in other areas IMO, not freak out about the number of teams in Sydney. Brisbane must have a second side, and I'm all for a Perth team, but the players need ultimately to come from Perth, be sourced in and grow the game in WA. If you look at the Sydney Swans as an example, it takes 20-30 years for such a new market to mature and start producing its own players.

Lastly, AFL has 10 Victorian clubs (9 in Melbourne) and is doing just fine. They don't merge those clubs for the same reason the NRL doesn't want to merge the Sydney clubs - and as donny says - tribalism in the code's largest market.

You then potentially get a counter-issue - how could regional sides hope to compete with a 4-team Sydney comp? This isn't like the US where a huge population is liberally spread around the country. Sydney has 5 million people; some of these proposed locations have a catchment of only a couple of hundred thousand people.
I've always liked the idea of an 18 team comp - the current 9 Sydney teams, the 7 out of Sydney teams plus 2 more from 2nd Brisbane, Perth, PNG or 2nd NZ. Have 2 conferences - Sydney and out of Sydney. Play home and away within your own conference which is 16 rounds and 9 rounds playing cross conference games. Top 4 from each conference qualify for finals. Obviously you would have to nut out how the finals would work, the extra travel and costs for out of Sydney teams. The beauty is you have a proper home and away setup and maintain that Sydney tribalism you mention.

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Post by Onthebus » Sun 30 Sep, 2018 12:57 pm

I'm thinking 44 teams

I'd like to see a Mt Druitt V Punchbowl grand final one day

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Post by Doc Tiger » Mon 01 Oct, 2018 8:17 am

Onthebus wrote:
Sun 30 Sep, 2018 12:57 pm
I'm thinking 44 teams

I'd like to see a Mt Druitt V Punchbowl grand final one day
Ghetto of Origin - I like it.

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