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Re: lui Bash

Post by cunno » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 12:44 am

happy tiger wrote:
GNR4LIFE wrote:how come there isn't any threads dedicated to Aaron Woods looking at the ref that gave Balin the chance to score from dummy half? or the thread about Benji missing a shot from in-front that could have been crucial? or Matt Groat giving away 2 consecutive penalties late in the game that gave Manly great field position?

we won't dedicate any threads to them coz its just easier to bash Lui

as if there aren't people on this forum with agenda's

pfft
Didn't think the first penalty was a penalty against Groat . Why is it some teams seem to be allowed to finish off their tackles and others can't . Usually a big fan of Ashley Klein but was disappointed tonight in his performance
Yes I was not impressed with Klein either. As for Lui, I hope he succeeds as a player and reaches great heights but to get there he is going to have to improve his defence.


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Post by tig_prmz » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 12:45 am

He doesn't have many errors in him.
He can control the ball when necessary, which is important with attacking flairs such as Marshall and Farah beside you.
There is something about him like Hodges, Ayshford and that other Bronco, which makes him break the tackle so frequently.

As for his defence, he should try aiming for their legs,
he always tries dominating them, which I know is a good thing, but someone as small as him,
he should go low.
He never seems to complete a tackle unless its tackling from the back and rounding the guy up.
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Post by hodgo » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 1:07 am

Offensively he is a weapon and a good foil to benji imo defensively he needs work

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Post by turnstyle » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 1:38 am

yeh, it has all been said about his defence, but his try was awesome. he ran a great line and showed great hands (and composure) to grab it and put it in.... i was really happy for him. :)

have to have a laugh at the turnstile needing to be pushed! classic... :lol:

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Post by Pokies » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 2:22 am

I know I'm probably in the minority but I love having lui as our half. Won't deny that at this stage he has big problems in defence but he has all the ability of a top class half and I am glad that he is with us rather than another club.


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Post by Swordy » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 7:23 am

I will start with I'm not a Lui fan at all.

I'm not saying he can't play, because on the very odd occasion he does something brilliant, but it is VERY rare.

Put it this way. If you were starting a team tomorrow, and every player in the NRL was on the free agent list, where do you place Lui in your list of halfbacks amongst:

Wallace, Foran, Gidley, Cronk, Fein/Hornby, Sandow, Mortimer, Barba, Hodkinson, Pearce, Carney, Walsh, Soward, Sam Williams, James Maloney, Mullen, Beau Henry, Prince, Thurston, Ray Thompson, Ben Roberts,

I suspect if you're being fair dinkum, and putting all allegiances and hatreds aside, he isn't in the top 10.
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Post by sunshine coast tiger » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 8:37 am

I have always been a big fan of Lui and still think he will develop into a very good half. He has great attacking skills and vision.

He does however need a lot of work on his defence. Look Miller looks an exciting prospect in the 20's and I think whoever develops between him and Lui the Tigers will be well served at halfback for years to come.

It doesn't matter if you like Sheens or not he does know football and he sees something in Lui, time will tell if he is right or wrong but for mine I still think Lui will become a top player.

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Post by smeghead » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 8:42 am

I think the structure covered him much better in the second stanza and he wasnt isolated.

As far as the rushing defence. It was a clear tactic and it worked. Malys halves were choked out of the game as they received no time or space at the line which is where they do their real damage.

I wanted Lui & Moltz hooked after the first half but Robs second half was much better
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Post by tiger05 » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 8:51 am

When I think of his defence I think of Chris Lawrence. He can improve that.

As for his attack I reckon he was pretty good last night. He has ability and he is a big halfback. I'd love to see him get into form, run the ball more and work on his defence as much as possible.

I still think he could be a good player for us.

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Post by happy tiger » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 8:54 am

Swordy wrote:I will start with I'm not a Lui fan at all.

I'm not saying he can't play, because on the very odd occasion he does something brilliant, but it is VERY rare.

Put it this way. If you were starting a team tomorrow, and every player in the NRL was on the free agent list, where do you place Lui in your list of halfbacks amongst:

Wallace, Foran, Gidley, Cronk, Fein/Hornby, Sandow, Mortimer, Barba, Hodkinson, Pearce, Carney, Walsh, Soward, Sam Williams, James Maloney, Mullen, Beau Henry, Prince, Thurston, Ray Thompson, Ben Roberts,

I suspect if you're being fair dinkum, and putting all allegiances and hatreds aside, he isn't in the top 10.
Yes our 1 and 7 aren't in the top 14 imo

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Post by Craig_D » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 9:01 am

I just wish for once people could look for positives after a win and not go out on a witch hunt to single people out.. Last time I checked, this was a 17 man TEAM performance and EVERYONE covered for their TEAM MATES tonight which was good to see.. You will always have better performances by some individuals over others, but as a TEAM, the Tigers are now starting to look awesome.. Hang in there Rob Lui, yr going well..
And if people didn't realise, the Tigers WON last night, who would of thought after reading some of this dribble!!!!!


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Post by innsaneink » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 9:14 am

Costaki wrote:i felt it was more like 8-10 misses. nrl stats is being very nice to him. some of them he missed by so much that maybe they didnt even count as misses, like he didnt even get a hand on them.

i couldnt understand why he wasnt taken off with 3 or 4 to go and we just needed to tackle. i was terrified that he was going to miss a very costly one.

he was a passenger tonight. terrible in atta ck and defence. the only good thing he did was run hard for that try. we won with 12 on the field. but as we won, sheens wont be changing anything. im a sheens fan but lui has to be dropped if we are to give the comp a shake.
Looked worse than it was imo.....he was rushing up a lot into the line, putting pressure on their attack and forcing them to do something different to what was originally planned...he was a bit better tonite

Surprised manly didnt kick more, chips and grubbers....or more inside balls....that wouldve kept us outta their face a bit more

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Post by smoking gun » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 9:46 am

He is horribly bad defensively and his ball handling is terrible too. Atleast once a game he makes a simple dropped ball and usually when we have the other team under the pump

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Post by Chunk » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 9:51 am

He has shown more than enough that he could be a very good halfback, no doubt he has defensive problems but they can be fixed.

He is only young and must be given the chance to develop, he has talent and if you can't see that I must be watching a different player.

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Post by t2010igers » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 10:15 am

1st grade footy is not the place to fix up defensive issues!!! And they are NOT issues he has no heart in defense!! His pathetic arm grabs have let in so many try's it's become a joke!!! He needs to get dropped to work on his defense the longer he stays in 1st grade the more of a liability he will become. Every NRL team is fully aware of his issues and will aim players at him all game long!!!

Does Lui have potential - YES
Is he currently playing at a 1st grade standard - NOT EVEN CLOSE.

And to everyone saying get off his back and give him a break - I will do that when he decides to shoe 100% commitment to defense and stops throwing his arm out like a little kid!!!!!

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Post by mike » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 10:20 am

Apart from the try he scored, which was a good effort, he was basically a turnstile out there. Defence is non-existence.
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Post by Snake » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 10:22 am

Lui is going to be there for the remander of the season so we will have to get use to it. Hopefully his bad defence can be covered.

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Post by magpiecol » Sat 30 Jul, 2011 10:25 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:how come there isn't any threads dedicated to Aaron Woods looking at the ref that gave Balin the chance to score from dummy half? or the thread about Benji missing a shot from in-front that could have been crucial? or Matt Groat giving away 2 consecutive penalties late in the game that gave Manly great field position?

we won't dedicate any threads to them coz its just easier to bash Lui

as if there aren't people on this forum with agenda's

pfft

You are a pinhead. Lui has been shocking all season. Not one good game that I can remember. It is now round 21. How much time does this bloke get before he gets the boot.

As for Moltzen, he dead set dogged it tonight. He was pathetic. No comittment with the ball in the air, or on the ground. No comittment when running the ball back. He gave it to Ryan on most occassions. If he is a first grade footballer then I am a dutchman.

If we want to win this competition then Lui and Moltzen must go and next week is not early enough.

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