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Post by happy tiger » Tue 19 Dec, 2017 8:07 pm

Geo. wrote:
Tue 19 Dec, 2017 7:39 pm
stryker wrote:
Wed 28 Dec, 2016 7:39 pm
WestsBenTigers wrote:
stryker wrote:Saw it today.
Solid 6 due to visuals. Acting was what i expected...abysmal.
That makes 3 StarWars ive seen now and theyre all the same in these areas.
Dependable franchise.
It was way more than a solid 6

I should have known all Queenslanders wake up on the wrong side of the bed.

What a disgrace. Star Wars is absolutely legendary.

Not dependable. Every kid you meet, including me, loves Star Wars and if you have a problem with Star Wars, tell that to all the kids in the world.

I, like many other kids, am a Star Wars fan boy.

And confirming you are talking garbage:
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franc ... ab=summary
Geeze someone need their nappy changed? The day i take the advice of kids as gospel is the day ill turn it up.

Starwars to me is nothing more than special effects with a good soundtrack. Not terrible not great, just mediocre telling of a recycled story that is as old as time itself. The dialogue and acting is always subpar but its covered over by the action set pieces, which are very good. The female leads of the past two films have been so wooden you could have replaced them with deckchairs and no one would have noticed. There seemed to be a lot in there for the uber fans so im sure thats where the ratings are coming from but for a casual moviegoer its a tad dull to be honest until the last 30-40 minutes.

What did you think of the Last Jedi..?
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Post by willow » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 12:13 am

Thankfully no Happy, Geo just dredged up an old post, that's all.

As much as I enjoyed The Last Jedi, Rogue One is still my favorite Star Wars movie.

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:33 am

Rogue One is far better than either of the Disney canon movies, and better than the prequels IMO.

In fact, I'd go as far to say that I'd probably say it's my third favourite behind Empire and A New Hope.

Any Star Wars fan knew the ending before they watched the movie but they still made it exciting to watch. Vader, despite his limited time in the movie, was phenomenal especially when he goes nuts on the Rebel troops at the end. It also tied in nicely to kick off Ep IV. For a movie where you knew few of the characters they made them believable.

Laura Dern's character in TLJ was useless in the great scheme of things. They should have had Admiral Ackbar run Snokes ship so he could be written out with a bit of honour.
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
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Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
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Post by Cultured Bogan » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:46 am

Munk wrote:
Tue 19 Dec, 2017 7:19 pm
Thats what happens Fraze when the current generation gain control. They are so twisted up in PC culture and so terrified of not being inclusive and progressive that they make everything bland.

The female lead (Rey?) has to be close to the worst character written in a major motion picture in multiple decades. The ultra feministic viewpoint of tearing down the patriarchy through this ridiculous girl (without serious training) being able to not only do everything a man can, but do it far better is embarrassing. Also if they were going to make her a warrior, shouldnt they have hired an actress who had martial arts training or maybe medieaval weapons handling so that she looks comfortable weilding the lightsaber? They certainly didnt hire her for her acting chops. The black guy should be called token, the asian chick is a cartoon and the villian a temper tantrum throwing emo brat.

Sloppy, agenda driven dribble. Unfortunately its popular so this mind altering garbage will continue to brainwash the masses...especially young women.
Current generation? You think Disney and Lucasfilm is run by a bunch of twenty-something antifa members? Abrams is 50 odd and I think Johnson isn't that far behind him.

I don't care that they have a female for the lead, she's just been a bit of a let down. Maybe that's due to the storyline as well but she is a little wooden. Finn is a wasted character, they could have done something better with him, and Rose was virtually a useless character because the whole horseracing casino smashing side plot didn't need to happen.

I actually think Kylo is a decent character, his volatile temper and generally violent responses are what Anakin should have been in the prequel trilogy, but we got a simpering, whiny little brat who just sulked and pouted when things went against him. Kylo actually lets loose.
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
Taken too much slow, minds gone out to sea on the P&O,
Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
Another case of "stupid is as stupid does..."

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Post by Munk » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 8:59 am

Cultured Bogan wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:46 am

Current generation? You think Disney and Lucasfilm is run by a bunch of twenty-something antifa members? Abrams is 50 odd and I think Johnson isn't that far behind him.
Of course not but that audience is who they pander to. God help you if you dont these days.


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Post by Tacky » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:20 am

Despite all of the negative reception I still think there was a lot to like in TLJ. I thought that crazy old man Luke kinda worked in a weird way. I thought Kylo killing Snoke and then having that fight scene with Rey was awesome. Some of the space battles were really good. Yoda's cameo was one of the best scenes.

There was obviously a lot I disliked about the movie like, the lack of character development. I just think that some of the new characters are really two dimensional and didn't have their stories developed well. That's something that is integral to Star Wars as well.

Most of my other dislikes about the movie are summarised by other comments so I'll just leave it at that but, I thought the movie was still decent.
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Post by Cultured Bogan » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:43 am

Munk wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 8:59 am
Cultured Bogan wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 7:46 am

Current generation? You think Disney and Lucasfilm is run by a bunch of twenty-something antifa members? Abrams is 50 odd and I think Johnson isn't that far behind him.
Of course not but that audience is who they pander to. God help you if you dont these days.
Ah OK, I thought you meant Disney/Lucasarts was literally run by the current generation.

Yeah there is pandering, I suppose they are trying to gather a new audience. They probably figure that they'll always have the older fans and now they have to try to secure a new audience.

That being said, I would never have thought that the original trilogy was ever politically incorrect. I mean Leia was meant to be a hero, not a damsel in distress (even taking into account the "help me Obi-Wan Kenobi" message.) It was about fighting oppression, ideals that haven't really changed and something that kids today can identify with.

I do agree that I don't understand the message in the whole casino subplot, that was just entirely bizarre and was a way to introduce a new character and keep Finn occupied as he had no role in the main plot.
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
Taken too much slow, minds gone out to sea on the P&O,
Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
Another case of "stupid is as stupid does..."

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:45 am

Tacky wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:20 am
Despite all of the negative reception I still think there was a lot to like in TLJ. I thought that crazy old man Luke kinda worked in a weird way. I thought Kylo killing Snoke and then having that fight scene with Rey was awesome. Some of the space battles were really good. Yoda's cameo was one of the best scenes.

There was obviously a lot I disliked about the movie like, the lack of character development. I just think that some of the new characters are really two dimensional and didn't have their stories developed well. That's something that is integral to Star Wars as well.

Most of my other dislikes about the movie are summarised by other comments so I'll just leave it at that but, I thought the movie was still decent.
Snoke being wiped out without any real background was bizarre, on Yoda though I'm just glad it was muppet Yoda, not CG Yoda.
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
Taken too much slow, minds gone out to sea on the P&O,
Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
Another case of "stupid is as stupid does..."

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Post by Tacky » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 10:00 am

Cultured Bogan wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:45 am
Tacky wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:20 am
Despite all of the negative reception I still think there was a lot to like in TLJ. I thought that crazy old man Luke kinda worked in a weird way. I thought Kylo killing Snoke and then having that fight scene with Rey was awesome. Some of the space battles were really good. Yoda's cameo was one of the best scenes.

There was obviously a lot I disliked about the movie like, the lack of character development. I just think that some of the new characters are really two dimensional and didn't have their stories developed well. That's something that is integral to Star Wars as well.

Most of my other dislikes about the movie are summarised by other comments so I'll just leave it at that but, I thought the movie was still decent.
Snoke being wiped out without any real background was bizarre, on Yoda though I'm just glad it was muppet Yoda, not CG Yoda.
Yeah Snoke was a real missed opportunity but, the surprise factor almost made up for it. One of the biggest problems I have with the movie is that there is no big bad guy for the next movie now.
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Post by willow » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 11:46 am

Tacky wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 10:00 am
Cultured Bogan wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:45 am
Tacky wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:20 am
Despite all of the negative reception I still think there was a lot to like in TLJ. I thought that crazy old man Luke kinda worked in a weird way. I thought Kylo killing Snoke and then having that fight scene with Rey was awesome. Some of the space battles were really good. Yoda's cameo was one of the best scenes.

There was obviously a lot I disliked about the movie like, the lack of character development. I just think that some of the new characters are really two dimensional and didn't have their stories developed well. That's something that is integral to Star Wars as well.

Most of my other dislikes about the movie are summarised by other comments so I'll just leave it at that but, I thought the movie was still decent.
Snoke being wiped out without any real background was bizarre, on Yoda though I'm just glad it was muppet Yoda, not CG Yoda.
Yeah Snoke was a real missed opportunity but, the surprise factor almost made up for it. One of the biggest problems I have with the movie is that there is no big bad guy for the next movie now.
I would love to have learned more about Snoke also. That's one thing that has disappointed me in Star Wars - aside from learning the origins of Darth Vader, there was never really a backstory to how the Sith evolved and were destroyed, how Palpatine turned to the darkside. We know how he became emperor but I would have loved to see how he came to realise he could use the Force and what twisted him to turn to the darkside.

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Post by Fraze23 » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 11:57 am

Tacky wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 10:00 am
Cultured Bogan wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:45 am
Tacky wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 9:20 am
Despite all of the negative reception I still think there was a lot to like in TLJ. I thought that crazy old man Luke kinda worked in a weird way. I thought Kylo killing Snoke and then having that fight scene with Rey was awesome. Some of the space battles were really good. Yoda's cameo was one of the best scenes.

There was obviously a lot I disliked about the movie like, the lack of character development. I just think that some of the new characters are really two dimensional and didn't have their stories developed well. That's something that is integral to Star Wars as well.

Most of my other dislikes about the movie are summarised by other comments so I'll just leave it at that but, I thought the movie was still decent.
Snoke being wiped out without any real background was bizarre, on Yoda though I'm just glad it was muppet Yoda, not CG Yoda.
Yeah Snoke was a real missed opportunity but, the surprise factor almost made up for it. One of the biggest problems I have with the movie is that there is no big bad guy for the next movie now.
I've read some theories online that like Luke, Snoke was force projecting himself onto the ship. It would explain why he looks younger than he did in TFA even though it is a direct continuation.
I wouldn't be surprised if JJ brings him back. Snoke was never in Johnsons plans, but I still think he's in Abrams' plans.

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 12:45 pm

While his character tied into the Finn/Rose subplot and therefore the movie quite possibly could have done without him, I quite liked DJ (Benicio Del Toro.) Points out a few amoral home truths to them when they steal the ship and is quick to sell them out when his life is on the line as he has no dog in the fight, a very real character as a lot of people would behave like that. I hope he has a bigger and more crucial part in Ep. IX.
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
Taken too much slow, minds gone out to sea on the P&O,
Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
Another case of "stupid is as stupid does..."

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Post by kevinmcguiness » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 1:11 pm

i hope they kill every Porg alive. Bloody Disney

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Wed 20 Dec, 2017 6:40 pm

kevinmcguiness wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 1:11 pm
i hope they kill every Porg alive. Bloody Disney
The Ewoks of the sequel trilogy.
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
Taken too much slow, minds gone out to sea on the P&O,
Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
Another case of "stupid is as stupid does..."

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Post by Fraze23 » Thu 28 Dec, 2017 5:50 am

Cultured Bogan wrote:
Wed 20 Dec, 2017 12:45 pm
While his character tied into the Finn/Rose subplot and therefore the movie quite possibly could have done without him, I quite liked DJ (Benicio Del Toro.) Points out a few amoral home truths to them when they steal the ship and is quick to sell them out when his life is on the line as he has no dog in the fight, a very real character as a lot of people would behave like that. I hope he has a bigger and more crucial part in Ep. IX.
When they were describing the master codebreaker it sounded like theywere describing Lando. That would have been sweet.

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Post by colmcd » Thu 28 Dec, 2017 1:42 pm

Overall the movie was too much fast action and not enough plot.
After episodes 1/2/3 I get that the tempo needed to be sped up and I thought ep 7 did well and got the pace right.

This ep8 was just too much action. Snoke, the all powerful emperor died so quickly from a simple trick. Kylo was not BAD or scary enough.

Plot holes everywhere. How did the code breaker know that the rebel fleet was evacuating via transports? Why dinnit the rebel fleet split up when they had a tracker on one of their ships?(oh so amongst the many generals and admirals they did not think to have their ships hyperspace in different directions?). I disliked the closeness of good guys and bad guys. Rae just accepting that she can convert Kylo... (or that she would try too off her own bat), it's too nice. Finn and co being betrayed by the codebreaker after they were caught (I imagined the Codebreaker would have realised that he could not get the codes, contact the empire on the side, let them onboard and then have them captured).

Why Finn was knocked away from the cannon, why 1 x wing wasn't attacked sooner, the stop starting of that entire fight (yea lets just rethink our plan midplan! Although I was glad to see the Gun ho side balanced out).

why wasn't the rebel fleet intercepted by the lighter/faster imperial ships? Particularly once their escorts were destroyed from using all their fuel?

Oh and the transport ships were "betrayed" rather then just shot down/detected normally.

I wish they would spend more time on getting the lines and the plot right. Ep 4/5/6 are classics because they are such good stories. As one post said Ep 1/2/3 sucked for many reasons but one is that a lot of detail was missing in what the characters do and how they interact. Ep 7 and 8 got a lot more of this right but could have done with more polish.

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Post by happy tiger » Thu 28 Dec, 2017 6:52 pm

Surely another sequel must be out by now , it's been 3 weeks now

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Post by gallagher » Thu 28 Dec, 2017 7:30 pm

I just went to the movies and enjoyed myself. Does anyone else still do that? Or does everything have to be examined?

Its not a critically acclaimed film or a thought provoking that needs to be broken down and reviewed. Its just sci fi. Every sci fi film has plot holes.

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