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Post by Kul » Fri 07 Aug, 2009 3:40 am

I'm not going to lie....

Malcolm Turnbull > Rudd

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Post by willow » Fri 07 Aug, 2009 7:20 am

Not a fan of either to be honest. Rudd is well spoken and conveys himself well but I think he could have a better support staff around him. I'm not paying any real attention to the policies that either are trying to put forward but they both seem pretty quiet to me at the moment.

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Post by smeghead » Fri 07 Aug, 2009 9:22 am

domestic politics is a yawn and has been since the mid to late 8o's.

In fact all domestic politics worldwide is not much chop. Bar a few extremists every major party is drifting towards a centrist blamange.

7 years of study in political science without once having to address the rabble of Aus politics made me happy
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Post by Kul » Fri 07 Aug, 2009 10:32 am

Smeg

are you much of a fan of Geopolitics?
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Post by smeghead » Fri 07 Aug, 2009 11:09 am

Indeed.

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Post by senexx » Fri 07 Aug, 2009 9:15 pm

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Post by senexx » Fri 07 Aug, 2009 9:18 pm

smeghead wrote:domestic politics is a yawn and has been since the mid to late 8o's.

In fact all domestic politics worldwide is not much chop. Bar a few extremists every major party is drifting towards a centrist blamange.

7 years of study in political science without once having to address the rabble of Aus politics made me happy
Respectfully, I disagree - Only because I get in too much trouble with people from other countries discussing their politics and how it relates to the rest of the world.

That said I'll be happy when by definition that the Liberal Party realises that they're not a liberal (classical or social) party at all but a Conservative party.
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Post by JRD » Fri 07 Aug, 2009 10:38 pm

Kul wrote:I'm not going to lie....

Malcolm Turnbull > Rudd

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At what? Obviously not in the polls,or maybe trying to throw mud with fake emails.Whats your point?

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Post by softlaw » Fri 07 Aug, 2009 10:58 pm

Rudd's real aim in life is to replace Ban-Ki Moon

The worst thing howard did for the liberals was win the election before last. If he'd lost that one they'd be back in by now as it is they'll be in the wilderness for some time to come (thankfully). Even longer if they leave turnbull there.

Turnbull is the liberal equivalent of mark latham.

States should not exist anymore. Expand local council & federal responsibilities and get rid of the layer of bureaucracy in the middle. States made sense when it took 3 weeks on horseback to cross the country. It doesn't anymore.

Discuss any or all.

Surely there's one or more statements in that lot that will start some debate (or possibly get this thread closed...)
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Post by innsaneink » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 8:37 am

He's better at lieing

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Post by alex » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 10:03 am

Rudd was an absolute twit on Rove a few weeks ago. Painful to watch.

I reckon Joe Hockey would go well as opposition leader.

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Post by Tigersfan » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 2:56 pm

I have worked at NSW state parliament house. How can I put this. Your dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. It doesn't matter who is in power as the bureaucrats run the show. Unfortunately we don't get to vote for them.

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Post by Peaches » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 8:59 pm

There are deffinately too many levels of government softlaw. I have the opinion that we would all be better off if state politics was abandoned and have sub-electorates under them. I think things would than move quicker, there would be less deadwood and money can be streamlined more efficiently.

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Post by JapanTiger » Sun 09 Aug, 2009 12:32 pm

yawn.

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Post by innsaneink » Sun 09 Aug, 2009 4:57 pm

Kul = Skiing in Whistler, Strawberry daiquiris, Malcolm Turnbull, Range rovers and white wide brimmed hats :lol:

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Post by Juro » Tue 11 Aug, 2009 9:39 am

softlaw wrote:States should not exist anymore. Expand local council & federal responsibilities and get rid of the layer of bureaucracy in the middle. States made sense when it took 3 weeks on horseback to cross the country. It doesn't anymore.
That would get my vote. All the states seem to do is bicker amongst themselves. If they were all pulling in the same direction it would make more sense. And what is the relevance of having different laws in different states?
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Post by senexx » Tue 11 Aug, 2009 8:52 pm

Given the federated States form the Commonwealth of Australia under the Constitution, do you really think you could get the States to willingly fold? Or even that the Australia public would vote for it via referendum?

Just floating an idea, I don't advocate it or anything, but what about adding more States instead, at least on the East Coast not including Tasmania

The border can be the far side of the GDR - so Brisbane, Gold Coast, etc, Sydney, Blue Mountains etc and whatever fits in Victoria, they all become QLD, NSW, VIC and the areas west of that become something else (eg. Western QLD, Western NSW, Western VIC).

After all the city councils in those areas are absolutely useless and do exactly what the State Government of the Day was going to do anyway.

That way the councils, I believe, would have more of a say.
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Post by alien » Tue 11 Aug, 2009 11:15 pm

no states??? would that mean the end of state of origin???

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