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Unread post by westTAHger » Sun 02 Jul, 2017 8:20 am

A simple question for politicians:
Why not work together, to achieve what is best for this country, or is that just too hard?
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Unread post by Byron Bay Fan » Sun 02 Jul, 2017 8:46 am

westTAHger wrote:
Sun 02 Jul, 2017 8:20 am
A simple question for politicians:
Why not work together, to achieve what is best for this country, or is that just too hard?
The trouble is they come with their ideological-driven agendas and some are in the pockets big business through bribes via the election donation system. Big profits are a big motivator to keep the status quo like using coal for example but we have already permanently stuffed our environment up.

Isn't it just plain common sense to go clean energy and we adjust production and society accordingly. If you look at the tens of thousands installing solar energy the voters seemed to have voted with their roof panels. Refugees, carbon tax and same sex marriage are non-issues relatively speaking but they have dominated the last few elections. (Energy prices are still rising greatly in spite of the tax being lifted)

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Unread post by Nelson » Sun 02 Jul, 2017 9:38 am

westTAHger wrote:
Sun 02 Jul, 2017 8:20 am
A simple question for politicians:
Why not work together, to achieve what is best for this country, or is that just too hard?
Because they are overwhemlingly self-interested and they lust for power. Their agenda is to be in power and it's easier for them to get ahead by dragging the other side down than actually being constructive. They do it within their own parties and they do it to the other parties. That's the major parties. Then there are the crackpot fringe representatives that are too stupid to actually contribute constructively to the governance of something as large as a state or country so they just throw out useless, contrarian views that are impossible to implement.

Anyone who wants to be in politics probably shouldn't be in politics...

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Unread post by Byron Bay Fan » Sun 02 Jul, 2017 12:55 pm

Nelson wrote:
Sun 02 Jul, 2017 9:38 am
westTAHger wrote:
Sun 02 Jul, 2017 8:20 am
A simple question for politicians:
Why not work together, to achieve what is best for this country, or is that just too hard?
Because they are overwhemlingly self-interested and they lust for power. Their agenda is to be in power and it's easier for them to get ahead by dragging the other side down than actually being constructive. They do it within their own parties and they do it to the other parties. That's the major parties. Then there are the crackpot fringe representatives that are too stupid to actually contribute constructively to the governance of something as large as a state or country so they just throw out useless, contrarian views that are impossible to implement.

Anyone who wants to be in politics probably shouldn't be in politics...
I think you are very unfair on so called fringe parties and independents. The Greens helped Gillard Labor bring in many positive policies. Tony Windsor got Gillard instead of Terrible Tony Abbott.
Malcolm Knox: What has happened this week is a pity for the Tigers, a pity for Jason Taylor and a pity for Robbie Farah, who had achieved more than the Big Four put together but was somehow turned into collateral damage. (SMH 25-26 March, 2017)

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Unread post by Byron Bay Fan » Fri 07 Jul, 2017 7:56 pm

stryker wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 8:13 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 7:31 pm
ALX22 wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 7:26 pm
Sarah Hanson-Young is the worst of the Greens.
I know a couple whose both ancestors came here as refugees and they also despise Sarah HY due to her sticking up for refugees. She is like Lleyton Hewitt, if you were in the battle trenches she is the one you would want by your side. I have nothing but respect for her.
She is nothing bar screeching white noise. Pure idiot who always takes the contrarian view to get her pigdog mug on the box.
As for wanting to be in the trenches with her, you have no idea. She is exactly the type who would shoot her own in the back to save her hide.
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia ... spartandhp

Sarah has been rudely picked on due to her taking her daughter with her and guess what she did not shoot her daughter in the back at all.
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Unread post by stryker » Fri 07 Jul, 2017 8:17 pm

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 7:56 pm
stryker wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 8:13 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 7:31 pm
ALX22 wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 7:26 pm
Sarah Hanson-Young is the worst of the Greens.
I know a couple whose both ancestors came here as refugees and they also despise Sarah HY due to her sticking up for refugees. She is like Lleyton Hewitt, if you were in the battle trenches she is the one you would want by your side. I have nothing but respect for her.
She is nothing bar screeching white noise. Pure idiot who always takes the contrarian view to get her pigdog mug on the box.
As for wanting to be in the trenches with her, you have no idea. She is exactly the type who would shoot her own in the back to save her hide.
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia ... spartandhp

Sarah has been rudely picked on due to her taking her daughter with her and guess what she did not shoot her daughter in the back at all.
Why would she shoot her daughter? :crazy

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Unread post by stryker » Fri 07 Jul, 2017 8:19 pm

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Sun 02 Jul, 2017 12:55 pm
Nelson wrote:
Sun 02 Jul, 2017 9:38 am
westTAHger wrote:
Sun 02 Jul, 2017 8:20 am
A simple question for politicians:
Why not work together, to achieve what is best for this country, or is that just too hard?
Because they are overwhemlingly self-interested and they lust for power. Their agenda is to be in power and it's easier for them to get ahead by dragging the other side down than actually being constructive. They do it within their own parties and they do it to the other parties. That's the major parties. Then there are the crackpot fringe representatives that are too stupid to actually contribute constructively to the governance of something as large as a state or country so they just throw out useless, contrarian views that are impossible to implement.

Anyone who wants to be in politics probably shouldn't be in politics...
I think you are very unfair on so called fringe parties and independents. The Greens helped Gillard Labor bring in many positive policies. Tony Windsor got Gillard instead of Terrible Tony Abbott.
Tony Windsor, the captain coach of the self interested. Great example.

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Unread post by Byron Bay Fan » Fri 07 Jul, 2017 8:51 pm

stryker wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 8:17 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 7:56 pm
stryker wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 8:13 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 7:31 pm


I know a couple whose both ancestors came here as refugees and they also despise Sarah HY due to her sticking up for refugees. She is like Lleyton Hewitt, if you were in the battle trenches she is the one you would want by your side. I have nothing but respect for her.
She is nothing bar screeching white noise. Pure idiot who always takes the contrarian view to get her pigdog mug on the box.
As for wanting to be in the trenches with her, you have no idea. She is exactly the type who would shoot her own in the back to save her hide.
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia ... spartandhp

Sarah has been rudely picked on due to her taking her daughter with her and guess what she did not shoot her daughter in the back at all.
Why would she shoot her daughter? :crazy
she could have dumped on her to ponder to male chauvinists but she had more character than you credited her for
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Unread post by Nelson » Fri 07 Jul, 2017 9:13 pm

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 8:51 pm
stryker wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 8:17 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 7:56 pm
stryker wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 8:13 pm


She is nothing bar screeching white noise. Pure idiot who always takes the contrarian view to get her pigdog mug on the box.
As for wanting to be in the trenches with her, you have no idea. She is exactly the type who would shoot her own in the back to save her hide.
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia ... spartandhp

Sarah has been rudely picked on due to her taking her daughter with her and guess what she did not shoot her daughter in the back at all.
Why would she shoot her daughter? :crazy
she could have dumped on her to ponder to male chauvinists but she had more character than you credited her for
How could she have dumped on her? That makes no sense.

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Unread post by stryker » Fri 07 Jul, 2017 9:19 pm

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 8:51 pm
stryker wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 8:17 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 7:56 pm
stryker wrote:
Sat 01 Jul, 2017 8:13 pm


She is nothing bar screeching white noise. Pure idiot who always takes the contrarian view to get her pigdog mug on the box.
As for wanting to be in the trenches with her, you have no idea. She is exactly the type who would shoot her own in the back to save her hide.
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia ... spartandhp

Sarah has been rudely picked on due to her taking her daughter with her and guess what she did not shoot her daughter in the back at all.
Why would she shoot her daughter? :crazy
she could have dumped on her to ponder to male chauvinists but she had more character than you credited her for
Oh 3 cheers for her LMAO mother of the year!

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Unread post by formerguest » Fri 07 Jul, 2017 10:27 pm

This thread has been pretty quiet considering our government is now more than double the indebtedness than it was when the so called fiscal conservatives came to power a few years back, with more than $23k now racked up per capita.

They abolished a working system that allowed our energy suppliers the certainty that they are again crying out for and prior to the last sitting day, had done bugger all else apart from alienation of some desperate people and finalisation of some trade deals, yet other than a savaging in polls, have generally been spared by the media.

Now we have the voice of Mr three word slogan and Queen's husband knighthood giving ex PM ringing in our ears again. This mob have been a bigger joke than they made their predecessors out to be and continue to be so, even breaking our nation's laws in the process.

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Unread post by Cultured Bogan » Tue 11 Jul, 2017 1:40 pm

formerguest wrote:
Fri 07 Jul, 2017 10:27 pm
This thread has been pretty quiet considering our government is now more than double the indebtedness than it was when the so called fiscal conservatives came to power a few years back, with more than $23k now racked up per capita.

They abolished a working system that allowed our energy suppliers the certainty that they are again crying out for and prior to the last sitting day, had done bugger all else apart from alienation of some desperate people and finalisation of some trade deals, yet other than a savaging in polls, have generally been spared by the media.

Now we have the voice of Mr three word slogan and Queen's husband knighthood giving ex PM ringing in our ears again. This mob have been a bigger joke than they made their predecessors out to be and continue to be so, even breaking our nation's laws in the process.
That's OK, the conservative echo chamber would tell you that's still the ALP's fault.
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Unread post by stryker » Tue 11 Jul, 2017 1:53 pm

Only one of the leaders was conservative, the other a weak gutless maggot, but we've been through this all before with people imploring us to be patient. They are the ones who have fallen silent.

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Unread post by Cultured Bogan » Tue 11 Jul, 2017 2:16 pm

Both sides of politics are broken. Every election cycle is negative campaigning telling you how bad the other side is without offering anything of substance yourself, resulting in race-to-the-bottom politics.

I quite like Turnbull, he is he very definition of a liberal. He's a minority in his own own party though and as such hamstrung since his sold himself up the river to be PM and now finds himself at even more at loggerheads with the party room as they lurch further to the right as an entity.
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Unread post by Tiger Watto » Tue 11 Jul, 2017 2:39 pm

agreed CB... Both sides are broken and the Senate are nothing short of hypocrisy.

We are in a sad state of affairs and I cant see much slowing the downward spiral anytime soon. Populous has taken over and that is one dark street considering the influence media has over the subject.

No one in the current structure is interested in their responsibility to the Australian people. Its all self-interest finger pointing. Anything For Votes!!!
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Unread post by formerguest » Thu 17 Aug, 2017 2:31 pm

Really hard to believe that Pauline Hanson turned up to the senate today wearing a burqa.

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Unread post by Cultured Bogan » Thu 17 Aug, 2017 3:05 pm

formerguest wrote:
Thu 17 Aug, 2017 2:31 pm
Really hard to believe that Pauline Hanson turned up to the senate today wearing a burqa.
Well it happened apparently. Poor dear obviously wasn't feeling relevant again.
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Unread post by Tiger Watto » Thu 17 Aug, 2017 3:39 pm

Cultured Bogan wrote:
Thu 17 Aug, 2017 3:05 pm
formerguest wrote:
Thu 17 Aug, 2017 2:31 pm
Really hard to believe that Pauline Hanson turned up to the senate today wearing a burqa.
Well it happened apparently. Poor dear obviously wasn't feeling relevant again.
Thought she had seen the light and converted... Maybe next time?!
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