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Post by Byron Bay Fan » Wed 30 May, 2018 5:24 pm

magpiecol wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 5:10 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 2:23 am
magpiecol wrote:
Tue 29 May, 2018 11:26 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Mon 28 May, 2018 11:16 pm
My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.
Crueller under Trump?

I guess you weren't around when Mr Hitler was treating everyone so kindly.

:? :shock: :brick:
Trump is using the same tactics as Hitler, scape-goating minorities, dangerous answers to problems that don't even exist, attempting to control the media and all facets of establishment.

I meant crueller than when he took office. Trump does not care if he wrecks the biosphere therefore doing even more damage than Hitler achieved. His anti-environmental policies almost guarantee the destruction of the environment.

One reason for wars is over-population causing resource shortages, this population increase is driven by modern medicines such as childhood vaccines etc. and longer life spans.

The point I was getting at is that even if we solve social injustice and inequality problems world wide it will be pretty useless if we don't also fix up the population and environment. In 100 years, if we don't change things, the world will be unrecognisable. People will wish that they were not born.
I am really embarrassed for you.

:cry: :cry:
Coming from you I will take that as a compliment.
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Post by Byron Bay Fan » Wed 30 May, 2018 5:37 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 5:20 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Mon 28 May, 2018 11:16 pm
My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.
I look at things with the opposite view , the only way we will fix any global issue is to make it socially unacceptable

I look at what the youth in America are attempting with the gun lobby and it gives me a glimmer of hope

If we can potentially show our youth the issues and give them achievable solutions they will act

Lets put it this way , their parents have done SFA in regards to many of the issues raised
I agree completely only global warming catastrophe has a deadline that Trump, Abbot, etc. are determined to gallop us into, even though probably majorities are against their regressive actions. I have been a political activist for about 50 years and had a lot more losses than wins - in spite of winning the public on every issue. So it is about power, money and using it not morality, leadership and survival of the biosphere. Just look at this sites thread about everybody's big proud 4 wheel drives - no hope mate.
Malcolm Knox: What has happened this week is a pity for the Tigers, a pity for Jason Taylor and a pity for Robbie Farah, who had achieved more than the Big Four put together but was somehow turned into collateral damage. (SMH 25-26 March, 2017)

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Wed 30 May, 2018 5:54 pm

magpiecol wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 5:10 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 2:23 am
magpiecol wrote:
Tue 29 May, 2018 11:26 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Mon 28 May, 2018 11:16 pm
My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.
Crueller under Trump?

I guess you weren't around when Mr Hitler was treating everyone so kindly.

:? :shock: :brick:
Trump is using the same tactics as Hitler, scape-goating minorities, dangerous answers to problems that don't even exist, attempting to control the media and all facets of establishment.

I meant crueller than when he took office. Trump does not care if he wrecks the biosphere therefore doing even more damage than Hitler achieved. His anti-environmental policies almost guarantee the destruction of the environment.

One reason for wars is over-population causing resource shortages, this population increase is driven by modern medicines such as childhood vaccines etc. and longer life spans.

The point I was getting at is that even if we solve social injustice and inequality problems world wide it will be pretty useless if we don't also fix up the population and environment. In 100 years, if we don't change things, the world will be unrecognisable. People will wish that they were not born.
I am really embarrassed for you.

:cry: :cry:
Sound counter argument there Col

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Post by happy tiger » Wed 30 May, 2018 6:11 pm

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 5:37 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 5:20 pm
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Mon 28 May, 2018 11:16 pm
My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.
I look at things with the opposite view , the only way we will fix any global issue is to make it socially unacceptable

I look at what the youth in America are attempting with the gun lobby and it gives me a glimmer of hope

If we can potentially show our youth the issues and give them achievable solutions they will act

Lets put it this way , their parents have done SFA in regards to many of the issues raised
I agree completely only global warming catastrophe has a deadline that Trump, Abbot, etc. are determined to gallop us into, even though probably majorities are against their regressive actions. I have been a political activist for about 50 years and had a lot more losses than wins - in spite of winning the public on every issue. So it is about power, money and using it not morality, leadership and survival of the biosphere. Just look at this sites thread about everybody's big proud 4 wheel drives - no hope mate.
Look we are calling it Global Warming , I watched something about a year ago about a study they are currently doing about linking what happens directly before Geomagnetic Reversal

They believe something similar to Global Warming has occurred before the big ones , yet on our last one (which was extremely small ) was an Ice Age

We are hundreds of thousands of years overdue for a normal event , which could be cataclysmic .....

(Unfortunately you probably won't be able say "Bloody hell , Happy was right :o )

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Post by Byron Bay Fan » Wed 30 May, 2018 6:43 pm

Nature can act decisively or gently and progressively. A giant comet striking the planet can cause rock and roll and even vertigo - causing major havoc. Whereas Ice Ages etc progress very slowly that nature can adjust for in their own way - permanent change yes but not destruction of the biosphere.

The warming up of the planet in only a few hundred years is radical.
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Post by happy tiger » Wed 30 May, 2018 7:20 pm

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 6:43 pm
Nature can act decisively or gently and progressively. A giant comet striking the planet can cause rock and roll and even vertigo - causing major havoc. Whereas Ice Ages etc progress very slowly that nature can adjust for in their own way - permanent change yes but not destruction of the biosphere.

The warming up of the planet in only a few hundred years is radical.
They know for fact that a Geomagnetic Reversal occurred when many dinosaurs died out and the GMR would have made many possible issues more plausible because it interrupts the atmosphere so severely , we have little protection against solar storms or eruptions

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Post by Geo. » Wed 30 May, 2018 8:10 pm

What I do now..
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3. Be the player your teammates want to play with..

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Post by Byron Bay Fan » Thu 31 May, 2018 1:39 pm

Geo. wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 8:10 pm
What I do now..
I would rush to d*** Smith and get a demagnetiser, then to Harvey Norman for a giant spin dryer that can put you into fast-forward, bless yourself and Bob's your uncle

Don't take Benji with you he is already crazy enough - it could straighten him out. But it could crack Ivan's face so that he could actually grin, smile and laugh
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Post by tsjonathan » Thu 31 May, 2018 1:55 pm

Yossarian wrote:
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 7:02 pm
Magnus wrote:
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 6:15 pm
Yossarian wrote:
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 5:10 pm
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yes I read it and common sense tells me he was shot from in front and behind. Some people really wanted this guy dead. I wouldn't be suprised if there were 10 shooters,

I'm always a bit skeptical of reports from the Government such as the Warren report. I guess we will have to wait and read more of the files when they are released. I read somewhere 9/10 Americans do not believe the Warren report.
Okay well there it is I guess. I'm talking about primary evidence and expert testimony. If you'd rather go with gut instinct and internet amateurs that's your call.
Because politicians have never lied to us, lol I think we're both talking about primary evidence and therein lies the inaccuracies that don't make sense. Jusst because someone is sceptical it is "internet ametuers and gut instinct" LOL gtfo

Looks like other people can't even be bothered to argue and show you their evidence cause you are so close minded to counter theories. I could send you links to first hand witnesses but then again you wouldn't agree with it anyway. Debating the wind.
Ive tried to be respectful to you, it'd be nice if you returned the favour. Witnesses vary in what they report. That's what they do. But as an overall collective and when considered with actual proper evidence they don't support the 35 shooter theory... if you want to put something forward that's supported by evidence and not dotted lines or fantasy stories from ex felons go for it.
I just finished reading JFK and the unspeakable.. and read Brothers few years ago by Talbot...No doubt in my mind it was a conspiracy.

Amazing evidence in there from LHO's handler George de Mohrenschildt to Richard Case Nagell to Hoover and LBJ's hatchetman Mac Wallace; Clay Shaw and on and on and on.

one shooter from the texas book depository was Mac Wallace

People like Jim Garrison and Mark Lane have interviewed dozens and dozens of witnesses who all claim shots came from behind and in front on the grassy knoll. In my opinion the shot from the front came from James Files (linked to the mob/cia). The evidence is overwhelming. It really is. I am happy to run all of it through with you but...

perhaps lets all just agree to disagree.



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Post by Yossarian » Thu 31 May, 2018 6:51 pm

tsjonathan wrote:
Thu 31 May, 2018 1:55 pm
Yossarian wrote:
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 7:02 pm
Magnus wrote:
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 6:15 pm
Yossarian wrote:
Mon 30 Oct, 2017 5:10 pm


Okay well there it is I guess. I'm talking about primary evidence and expert testimony. If you'd rather go with gut instinct and internet amateurs that's your call.
Because politicians have never lied to us, lol I think we're both talking about primary evidence and therein lies the inaccuracies that don't make sense. Jusst because someone is sceptical it is "internet ametuers and gut instinct" LOL gtfo

Looks like other people can't even be bothered to argue and show you their evidence cause you are so close minded to counter theories. I could send you links to first hand witnesses but then again you wouldn't agree with it anyway. Debating the wind.
Ive tried to be respectful to you, it'd be nice if you returned the favour. Witnesses vary in what they report. That's what they do. But as an overall collective and when considered with actual proper evidence they don't support the 35 shooter theory... if you want to put something forward that's supported by evidence and not dotted lines or fantasy stories from ex felons go for it.
I just finished reading JFK and the unspeakable.. and read Brothers few years ago by Talbot...No doubt in my mind it was a conspiracy.

Amazing evidence in there from LHO's handler George de Mohrenschildt to Richard Case Nagell to Hoover and LBJ's hatchetman Mac Wallace; Clay Shaw and on and on and on.

one shooter from the texas book depository was Mac Wallace

People like Jim Garrison and Mark Lane have interviewed dozens and dozens of witnesses who all claim shots came from behind and in front on the grassy knoll. In my opinion the shot from the front came from James Files (linked to the mob/cia). The evidence is overwhelming. It really is. I am happy to run all of it through with you but...

perhaps lets all just agree to disagree.


I'm not the one reopening the debate. I've studied the evidence with actual bona fide detectives - the actual primary evidence not a book where it's filtered or YouTube videos.

What is overwhelming is the evidence pointing to Oswald. If you want to believe fairy tales go for it.

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Post by Abraham » Tue 05 Jun, 2018 8:31 am

swag tiger wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 5:18 pm
I legally have to vote now. :cry: :cry:
And i don't know a think about politics even though i did Commerce and Business studies at school.
Politics is about values, not what subjects you did at school.

Find out what your values are, and then try and match them to a politician or party that represents them.

The major parties are all so closely aligned at present its hard to tell them apart, which is why many people are ditching them for smaller 'micro' parties.

If you get stuck, just steer clear or anything to do with the socialism/marxism/leftism.

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Tue 05 Jun, 2018 8:49 am

"Find out what your values are and run with that. Except the values that I oppose..."
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
Taken too much slow, minds gone out to sea on the P&O,
Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
Another case of "stupid is as stupid does..."

Cuando llegue el día, y estoy parado a las puertas del cielo, será Dios pidiendo mi perdón...

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Post by jadtiger » Tue 05 Jun, 2018 8:58 am

Abraham wrote:
Tue 05 Jun, 2018 8:31 am
swag tiger wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 5:18 pm
I legally have to vote now. :cry: :cry:
And i don't know a think about politics even though i did Commerce and Business studies at school.
Politics is about values, not what subjects you did at school.

Find out what your values are, and then try and match them to a politician or party that represents them.

The major parties are all so closely aligned at present its hard to tell them apart, which is why many people are ditching them for smaller 'micro' parties.

If you get stuck, just steer clear or anything to do with the socialism/marxism/leftism.
You forgot the worst 3 nationalism/capitalism/rightism.

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Post by Geo. » Tue 05 Jun, 2018 9:03 am

Politics and values...bwhahahahahahahahahahaha
Ivan's Laws

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2. The Star of the Team is the Team
3. Be the player your teammates want to play with..

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Post by Abraham » Tue 05 Jun, 2018 9:28 am

jadtiger wrote:
Tue 05 Jun, 2018 8:58 am
Abraham wrote:
Tue 05 Jun, 2018 8:31 am
swag tiger wrote:
Wed 30 May, 2018 5:18 pm
I legally have to vote now. :cry: :cry:
And i don't know a think about politics even though i did Commerce and Business studies at school.
Politics is about values, not what subjects you did at school.

Find out what your values are, and then try and match them to a politician or party that represents them.

The major parties are all so closely aligned at present its hard to tell them apart, which is why many people are ditching them for smaller 'micro' parties.

If you get stuck, just steer clear or anything to do with the socialism/marxism/leftism.
You forgot the worst 3 nationalism/capitalism/rightism.
Your typing a criticism of capitalism, on a computer/tablet/smart phone that capitalism gave you.

Not the smartest move.

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Post by Abraham » Tue 05 Jun, 2018 9:31 am

Geo. wrote:
Tue 05 Jun, 2018 9:03 am
Politics and values...bwhahahahahahahahahahaha
Have you ever voted?

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Post by Abraham » Tue 05 Jun, 2018 9:32 am

Cultured Bogan wrote:
Tue 05 Jun, 2018 8:49 am
"Find out what your values are and run with that. Except the values that I oppose..."
Yes. And i didn't even try to hide it.

Very perceptive.

However its not about my 'values'. If young swaggy wants to grow old in a stable and prosperous country, he will want to make sure Australia has nothing to do with policies such as marxism and socialism, that have failed everywhere else in the world they have ever been tried.

Someone needs to let him in on the secret, because it sure as hell wont be his pink haired university professors.

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Post by happy tiger » Tue 05 Jun, 2018 9:42 am

There is a lot of bad "ism's" in the world at the moment , one of the worst is commercialism

Vote on what you feel most strongly about and then completely rule out the Greens ,Labour and One Nation

You'll be fine then

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