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Re: Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 1:44 pm
by Cultured Bogan
Yossarian wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 1:14 pm
Cultured Bogan wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 10:21 am
Yossarian wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 10:12 am
Cultured Bogan wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 8:15 am


I know it has to go to referendum, simply stating that until it is changed the rules are black and white.

If you haven't done your due diligence and you get caught out that's your own fault.
It can be interpreted though and the HC has "weakened" the black and white text to allow dual citizens to be MPs if they've taken reasonable steps to divest themselves of it.

Xenophon and Canavon might have reasonable arguments but Barnaby is stuffed.
Having parents born in foreign nations, you'd think you'd have a look to see whether it's been conferred upon you.
NX seems to have considered whether he was Cypriot or Greek but not British. The question is whether being a British Overseas Citizen or whatever it is called is equivalent to being an actual citizen.
You'd think if he chased up Cyprus though they'd have directed him to the British. I suppose it's all heresay and he has to be taken at his word, of which a lot of people have a hard time doing with politicians.

Re: Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 1:56 pm
by Pawsandclaws
Cultured Bogan wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 1:44 pm
Yossarian wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 1:14 pm
Cultured Bogan wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 10:21 am
Yossarian wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 10:12 am


It can be interpreted though and the HC has "weakened" the black and white text to allow dual citizens to be MPs if they've taken reasonable steps to divest themselves of it.

Xenophon and Canavon might have reasonable arguments but Barnaby is stuffed.
Having parents born in foreign nations, you'd think you'd have a look to see whether it's been conferred upon you.
NX seems to have considered whether he was Cypriot or Greek but not British. The question is whether being a British Overseas Citizen or whatever it is called is equivalent to being an actual citizen.
You'd think if he chased up Cyprus though they'd have directed him to the British. I suppose it's all heresay and he has to be taken at his word, of which a lot of people have a hard time doing with politicians.
Being a lawyer, a former law lecturer at South Aust. U and failed Liberal Candidate in SA, you would think he would of known.

I did like his stunt at the British Pub in North Adelaide where he asked for a pint of warm English beer. He drank some and said words like "Oh that's awful". The beer was Guinness. Nick off Xenophony.

Re: Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 2:11 pm
by Tiger Watto
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Fri 18 Aug, 2017 7:40 am
My question remains. Why is there one law for one person and another law for others
One can remain unidentified , but the other can't.
All in the name of a fantasy figure in the sky.
or is it that there are votes in letting Muslims supposed customs over ride The rules that others have to abide by?
Is it actually 'illegal' to wear a motorcycle helmet in banks?

Or is it simply a term of entry the banks use where they will refuse service?

Re: Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 2:47 pm
by Cultured Bogan
Tiger Watto wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 2:11 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Fri 18 Aug, 2017 7:40 am
My question remains. Why is there one law for one person and another law for others
One can remain unidentified , but the other can't.
All in the name of a fantasy figure in the sky.
or is it that there are votes in letting Muslims supposed customs over ride The rules that others have to abide by?
Is it actually 'illegal' to wear a motorcycle helmet in banks?

Or is it simply a term of entry the banks use where they will refuse service?
Pretty sure it's the second one, the same applies for servos IIRC.

Re: Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 4:01 pm
by goldcoast tiger
Tiger Watto wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 2:11 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Fri 18 Aug, 2017 7:40 am
My question remains. Why is there one law for one person and another law for others
One can remain unidentified , but the other can't.
All in the name of a fantasy figure in the sky.
or is it that there are votes in letting Muslims supposed customs over ride The rules that others have to abide by?
Is it actually 'illegal' to wear a motorcycle helmet in banks?

Or is it simply a term of entry the banks use where they will refuse service?
I'm not sure which it is, but it doesn't matter which, the same rules/ law should exist,for all.

Re: Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 5:29 pm
by Geo.
Tiger Watto wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 2:11 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Fri 18 Aug, 2017 7:40 am
My question remains. Why is there one law for one person and another law for others
One can remain unidentified , but the other can't.
All in the name of a fantasy figure in the sky.
or is it that there are votes in letting Muslims supposed customs over ride The rules that others have to abide by?
Is it actually 'illegal' to wear a motorcycle helmet in banks?

Or is it simply a term of entry the banks use where they will refuse service?
The second one...but Bucket Hats are OK..

Re: Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 5:43 pm
by Tiger Watto
Geo. wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 5:29 pm
Tiger Watto wrote:
Mon 21 Aug, 2017 2:11 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Fri 18 Aug, 2017 7:40 am
My question remains. Why is there one law for one person and another law for others
One can remain unidentified , but the other can't.
All in the name of a fantasy figure in the sky.
or is it that there are votes in letting Muslims supposed customs over ride The rules that others have to abide by?
Is it actually 'illegal' to wear a motorcycle helmet in banks?

Or is it simply a term of entry the banks use where they will refuse service?
The second one...but Bucket Hats are OK..
Bucket Hats Rule!

Re: Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 6:47 pm
by Cultured Bogan
Yeah righto Gilligan...

Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 8:39 am
by Byron Bay Fan
Amazingly the Victorian government has passed legislation permitting euthanasia or assisted dying. They went at it for about 26 hours overnight. Good on them. Extremely sick were having terrible deaths stretched out over years - we would kill a horse for a lot less. I feel better already.

Re: Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:12 am
by innsaneink
Good. . . . A bit of dignity

Can't see too many opposing this

Re: Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:57 am
by Byron Bay Fan
innsaneink wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:12 am
Good. . . . A bit of dignity

Can't see too many opposing this
Many legislators did oppose but was eventually passed 47-37 but still has to pass the upper chamber yet. It was a big hypocrisy the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) opposing euthanasia legislation but effectively practising it in their palliative care hospitals and charging a fortune for it as well. Now the RCC will be cut off at the Khyber Pass and will make a lot less money out of people dying and squeezing every drop out of breath and buck out of them and the health care system.

Re: Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 10:05 am
by jadtiger
innsaneink wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:12 am
Good. . . . A bit of dignity

Can't see too many opposing this
Unfortunately some will(Abbott is a certainty).

Re: Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 10:22 am
by Chicken Faced Killa
This can only be a good thing. It’s horrible hearing someone say they are ready to die for years because of the lack of quality of life and there being nothing you can do for them

Re: Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 10:39 am
by Yossarian
As BFF said it still has to pass the upper house. No idea what the numbers are like there.

Re: Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 11:04 am
by magpiecol
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:57 am
innsaneink wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:12 am
Good. . . . A bit of dignity

Can't see too many opposing this
Many legislators did oppose but was eventually passed 47-37 but still has to pass the upper chamber yet. It was a big hypocrisy the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) opposing euthanasia legislation but effectively practising it in their palliative care hospitals and charging a fortune for it as well. Now the RCC will be cut off at the Khyber Pass and will make a lot less money out of people dying and squeezing every drop out of breath and buck out of them and the health care system.
I thought long and hard as to how to reply to your disgraceful and bigoted posting. I am still at a loss.

I only hope that one day you never have to go to one of the wonderful palliative care hospitals. But if you do, you and yours will have a very different view to what you spewed out above.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Re: Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 11:05 am
by GNR4LIFE
magpiecol wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 11:04 am
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:57 am
innsaneink wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:12 am
Good. . . . A bit of dignity

Can't see too many opposing this
Many legislators did oppose but was eventually passed 47-37 but still has to pass the upper chamber yet. It was a big hypocrisy the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) opposing euthanasia legislation but effectively practising it in their palliative care hospitals and charging a fortune for it as well. Now the RCC will be cut off at the Khyber Pass and will make a lot less money out of people dying and squeezing every drop out of breath and buck out of them and the health care system.
I thought long and hard as to how to reply to your disgraceful and bigoted posting. I am still at a loss.

I only hope that one day you never have to go to one of the wonderful palliative care hospitals. But if you do, you and yours will have a very different view to what you spewed out above.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
The irony.

Re: Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 11:30 am
by Byron Bay Fan
magpiecol wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 11:04 am
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:57 am
innsaneink wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:12 am
Good. . . . A bit of dignity

Can't see too many opposing this
Many legislators did oppose but was eventually passed 47-37 but still has to pass the upper chamber yet. It was a big hypocrisy the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) opposing euthanasia legislation but effectively practising it in their palliative care hospitals and charging a fortune for it as well. Now the RCC will be cut off at the Khyber Pass and will make a lot less money out of people dying and squeezing every drop out of breath and buck out of them and the health care system.
I thought long and hard as to how to reply to your disgraceful and bigoted posting. I am still at a loss.

I only hope that one day you never have to go to one of the wonderful palliative care hospitals. But if you do, you and yours will have a very different view to what you spewed out above.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
I took my mother out of one in Sydney only after one night - she requested me to. They only wanted to drug her into unconsciousness as well as not providing decent nursing service. Those drugs did the same as delayed euthanasia only not by name and only after they made a fortune out of it. She kept consciousness and cracked fúnnies until a few days before her death - that is what family is for.

Re: Euthanasia legislation passed Holy Moses

Posted: Sat 21 Oct, 2017 1:17 pm
by formerguest
magpiecol wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 11:04 am
Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:57 am
innsaneink wrote:
Sat 21 Oct, 2017 9:12 am
Good. . . . A bit of dignity

Can't see too many opposing this
Many legislators did oppose but was eventually passed 47-37 but still has to pass the upper chamber yet. It was a big hypocrisy the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) opposing euthanasia legislation but effectively practising it in their palliative care hospitals and charging a fortune for it as well. Now the RCC will be cut off at the Khyber Pass and will make a lot less money out of people dying and squeezing every drop out of breath and buck out of them and the health care system.
I thought long and hard as to how to reply to your disgraceful and bigoted posting. I am still at a loss.

I only hope that one day you never have to go to one of the wonderful palliative care hospitals. But if you do, you and yours will have a very different view to what you spewed out above.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Won't need to go into to palliative care in Victoria if the upper house pass the bill.