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Re: Coach's fears surface in loss

Post by tig_prmz » Thu 28 Jun, 2012 11:25 pm

dermo wrote:
When was the last time a team went through the entire season without losing? Every side goes through a slump at some point, you need to lower your expectations a little, we are in the top 8 going into a bye with some key players to return on the other side for the run to the finals and your talking like its doomsday
never said i want them to win every math, did i? find me on post where i did.
it's the way we loose them, the lack of attitude, defense falling apart etc. it happens every year, shouldnt happen if we are a top side/ we want to be a top side
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1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
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Post by LaT » Thu 28 Jun, 2012 11:27 pm

We decimated Raiders. It was controlled, methodical and wonderful.

I don't need to read article to find out how our team played. I watch them.
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Post by tig_prmz » Thu 28 Jun, 2012 11:29 pm

LaT wrote:We decimated Raiders. It was controlled, methodical and wonderful.

I don't need to read article to find out how our team played. I watch them.
read articles for the melbourne game, thats what i said.
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
Next: Liddle, MCK, Felise, MWZ, Thompson, Rochow, Gamble

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Post by LaT » Thu 28 Jun, 2012 11:30 pm

Like I said, I don't need to because I watch the games. Try it yourself.
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Post by LaT » Thu 28 Jun, 2012 11:36 pm

Here is your article, point out the part that was relevant to your argument.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 201wa.html
SEVEN in a row. This one was hardly magnificent, but it was enough. Which is very much unlike the Tigers, who were hanging on at the death as the Storm sensed their own kill.

MATCH STATS

Usually the Tigers finish fast; last night they faded, but they prevailed.
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Keith Galloway of the Tigers is tackled by Jaiman Lowe.

Keith Galloway of the Tigers is tackled by Jaiman Lowe. Photo: Getty Images

While it will not go down as the Tigers' best performance of the season, it would have been one of their most pleasing. Not only did the Tigers win a grind against Melbourne - albeit an understrength Storm side - the combination of halfback Benji Marshall and five-eighth Curtis Sironen continues to blossom.

Sironen is an imposing figure for one so young. Perhaps that is one reason he has looked so comfortable in the side, just three matches into his NRL career. That said, he has shown the skill to match the size. Some of his touches last night were subtle, superb. He is indeed a gun of a son.

Despite winning six straight matches, there was still a feeling the Tigers had still not been truly tested. Fortunately and unfortunately for them, not even Melbourne could provide a true test, not without their three best players away on Origin duty. With Cameron Smith, Billy Slater and Cooper Cronk watching the match on television from Coolum, the Storm appeared to be more like a rather blustery wind.
Former Storm man Adam Blair of the Tigers is tackled.

Former Storm man Adam Blair of the Tigers is tackled. Photo: Getty Images

Still, Melbourne were never going to roll over. They presented the Tigers with an ideal opportunity to play against a side that still has backbone even without its famous spine.

The Tigers had their own demons too. Not only had they never played at AAMI Park before, no Tigers side had been able to win in Melbourne. And they had to endure the loss of their fullback Tim Moltzen in the warm-up. Beau Ryan was shifted to fullback while Blake Ayshford was given a starting role, rare of late.

The Tigers had their own skipper out, Robbie Farah being in camp with NSW, but they are always given an advantage at this time of year, having the best player not able to play Origin in their line-up. Marshall's impact was almost immediate; the five-eighth kicked a fourth-minute 40-20, then used the same boot to score the first points of the night with a seventh-minute penalty.

That showed the Tigers were prepared to get into an arm-wrestle. And they did. They were patient; despite the few opportunities through most of the first half going unrewarded, they did not panic.

Melbourne scrambled superbly in the first half, which is one of the many things they do better than anyone else. But without their stars, they could not put enough pressure on the Tigers in attack.

Still they scrapped though, and they were rewarded on the last kick of the first half. Five-eighth Gareth Widdop levelled up the scores with a 40th-minute penalty.

The Tigers weren't taking their chances, the Storm weren't creating them; it was beginning to look like these sides were paying homage to Euro 2012, starting later in the night, with a 2-2 scoreline.

Shortly after halftime, the Tigers broke the shackles. Both wingers had scored within seven minutes of the restart, and the Tigers had achieved, in the conditions, a potentially winning score.

Just three minutes into the second half, good work down the Tigers' left side gave Lote Tuqiri a try. Then they tried their luck on the other side of the field. Matt Utai ducked under the attempted tackle of Dane Nielsen, risking the prospect of head-butting the turf for someone so vertically challenged, to stretch the lead past a converted try.

Their short burst of points having done its work, the Tigers could settle back down, knowing the Storm were unlikely to score one try, let alone two. They got one, through Nielsen, and pushed hard for a second up until the final seconds. But the Tigers held their nerve.

WESTS TIGERS 10 (L Tuqiri M Utai tries B Marshall goal) bt MELBOURNE 6 (D Nielsen try G Widdop goal) at AAMI Park. Referee: Shayne Hayne, Gerard Sutton. Crowd: 11,274.
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Post by tig_prmz » Thu 28 Jun, 2012 11:37 pm

i did and as i said, it mentioned tigers winning despite not performing good.

dude, trust me, if you think we played good last couple of months, go for it.. maybe i watch storm, bulldogs, manly etc. too much.
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
Next: Liddle, MCK, Felise, MWZ, Thompson, Rochow, Gamble

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Post by tig_prmz » Thu 28 Jun, 2012 11:42 pm

cbf re-reading

as i said, be as happy as you want with those performances, i wasnt.
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
Next: Liddle, MCK, Felise, MWZ, Thompson, Rochow, Gamble

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Post by LaT » Thu 28 Jun, 2012 11:46 pm

Did you see the part about not having our skipper, losing our fullback in the warm up, shuffling our backline and playing a centre at 5/8th....and still winning the wrestle against a committed and well drilled side in a city we have never won at?

I am honestly going to have to chalk your opinion up to inexperience if you think that Tigers v Storm showed that we weren't playing as a team.

It seems you will believe anything a DT/FF hack writes up.
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Post by tig_prmz » Thu 28 Jun, 2012 11:57 pm

storm lost their 1,7,9 as well, we still had our main attacking weapon while they had their 4th choice there. secondly, we didn't win the ruck/ wrestle.. i watched that game very closely, and i can assure you that.

you can say that it may be my inexperience but except the cowboys game, we have not been attacking like a structured team.
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
Next: Liddle, MCK, Felise, MWZ, Thompson, Rochow, Gamble

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Fri 29 Jun, 2012 12:06 am

LaT wrote:Did you see the part about not having our skipper, losing our fullback in the warm up, shuffling our backline and playing a centre at 5/8th....and still winning the wrestle against a committed and well drilled side in a city we have never won at?

I am honestly going to have to chalk your opinion up to inexperience if you think that Tigers v Storm showed that we weren't playing as a team.

It seems you will believe anything a DT/FF hack writes up.
Has the fact Melbourne were missing Slater, Cronk and Smith been forgotten or we only choosing to look at how we were disadvantaged?

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Post by LaT » Fri 29 Jun, 2012 12:07 am

tig_prmz wrote:storm lost their 1,7,9 as well, we still had our main attacking weapon while they had their 4th choice there. secondly, we didn't win the ruck/ wrestle.. i watched that game very closely, and i can assure you that.

you can say that it may be my inexperience but except the cowboys game, we have not been attacking like a structured team.
There is more to being a team then just throwing the ball around, attacking with structure and racking up big scores.
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Post by LaT » Fri 29 Jun, 2012 12:10 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:
LaT wrote:Did you see the part about not having our skipper, losing our fullback in the warm up, shuffling our backline and playing a centre at 5/8th....and still winning the wrestle against a committed and well drilled side in a city we have never won at?

I am honestly going to have to chalk your opinion up to inexperience if you think that Tigers v Storm showed that we weren't playing as a team.

It seems you will believe anything a DT/FF hack writes up.
Has the fact Melbourne were missing Slater, Cronk and Smith been forgotten or we only choosing to look at how we were disadvantaged?
Nobody is forgetting that mate. Look at the point I am making though. We banded together and despite not racking up a cricket score, played and defended well as a team. It was a gritty win we could still be proud of.

This kid is holding up Storm/Raiders as examples we were playing s*** as a team and its just not true.
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Post by dermo » Fri 29 Jun, 2012 12:12 am

tig_prmz wrote: either i overestimate our team.

Hit the nail on the head there

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Post by tig_prmz » Fri 29 Jun, 2012 1:26 am

ye we may not be as good as i think we are... sighhh
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
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Post by tig_prmz » Fri 29 Jun, 2012 1:29 am

LaT wrote: Nobody is forgetting that mate. Look at the point I am making though. We banded together and despite not racking up a cricket score, played and defended well as a team. It was a gritty win we could still be proud of.

This kid is holding up Storm/Raiders as examples we were playing s*** as a team and its just not true.
im talking about the attack... attacking as a team, it was just individuals doing their own thing rather than having a set play. example, ryan's try/set up against raiders. benji's wierd looking kicks, our strength has been the amount of decoy runner running around and benji taking a pick or setting lawrence/tuqiri up in the corner <-- that's the teamwork im talking about. we have a chaos in attack atm... and it has been this way this entire year.
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
Next: Liddle, MCK, Felise, MWZ, Thompson, Rochow, Gamble

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Post by LaT » Fri 29 Jun, 2012 1:36 am

Thats an aspect of teamwork, yes.
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Post by tig_prmz » Fri 29 Jun, 2012 1:54 am

well that's what im talking about..
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
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Post by Knuckles » Fri 29 Jun, 2012 6:32 am

You seem to talk a lot after a couple of losses.

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