RLPA Awards - 2017

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Re: RLPA Awards - 2017

Unread post by diedpretty » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 4:52 pm

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Wed 13 Sep, 2017 9:51 am
The voting system is flawed. The players pick the 3 best performers on the opposing team, so when teams come up against a weak side with a few stars like the tigers, the same players are always going to be chosen (e.g. teddy, woods, nofo etc). Whereas a team that has talent across their side are going to be competing against one another for points. No wonder smith didn't win when he's playing alongside slater, cronk, Munster, chambers, kaufusi, Bromwich, vunivalu etc.
Exactly - its a ridiculous system.


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Unread post by stryker » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 5:51 pm

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Wed 13 Sep, 2017 11:45 am
Makes complete sense -

If you have just flogged a team, and were then asked to vote on who was the best in that team - Tedesco, and Nofo would come up every time - they almost always put in and are dangerous irrespective of the game.

Think of it as the "anti-flog" award. :mrgreen:
But Tedesco is a flog so that doesnt work.

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Unread post by innsaneink » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:35 pm

steve-o wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 9:51 am
The voting system is flawed. The players pick the 3 best performers on the opposing team, so when teams come up against a weak side with a few stars like the tigers, the same players are always going to be chosen (e.g. teddy, woods, nofo etc). Whereas a team that has talent across their side are going to be competing against one another for points. No wonder smith didn't win when he's playing alongside slater, cronk, Munster, chambers, kaufusi, Bromwich, vunivalu etc.
Dunno about it being flawed... Don't know why people cant see though this is why our 3 blokes were picked

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Unread post by steve-o » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:43 pm

I say it's flawed because in the team of the year, 9 out of 13 of the players were in teams that missed the 8. Also the fact that Teddy beat Smith to the major award. Neither of those points make sense to me.
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Unread post by stryker » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:53 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:35 pm
steve-o wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 9:51 am
The voting system is flawed. The players pick the 3 best performers on the opposing team, so when teams come up against a weak side with a few stars like the tigers, the same players are always going to be chosen (e.g. teddy, woods, nofo etc). Whereas a team that has talent across their side are going to be competing against one another for points. No wonder smith didn't win when he's playing alongside slater, cronk, Munster, chambers, kaufusi, Bromwich, vunivalu etc.
Dunno about it being flawed... Don't know why people cant see though this is why our 3 blokes were picked
Of course its flawed, is tedesco a better fullback in 2017 than Slater? No. Was he a better all round player than Smith, DCE etc...? No.
Why did he win then? Because he scored points every week due to having little competition within the club to share them with. Smith had to share the points with 10 other blokes most weeks. If Tedesco had to do similar he scores very few points because by his own admission he did not have a great year....and Nofa...he'll have to work hard to retain his starting spot next year based upon his 2017 form yet is crowned a top 2 winger in the comp? I might laugh at that :lol:


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Unread post by Telltails » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:54 pm

Teddy players player, Woods given captaincy by the great Mal Meninga - there you go.

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Unread post by stryker » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:10 pm

Telltails wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:54 pm
Teddy players player, Woods given captaincy by the great Mal Meninga - there you go.
There you go what?

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Unread post by Fade To Black » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:14 pm

steve-o wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:43 pm
I say it's flawed because in the team of the year, 9 out of 13 of the players were in teams that missed the 8. Also the fact that Teddy beat Smith to the major award. Neither of those points make sense to me.
The highly likely assumption that opposition players view Cammy as a knobhead probably affected his chances as well. I'd say it would be pretty much a popularity contest this award, surprised Moses didn't win it- he's everyone's mate :roll:

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Unread post by Swordy » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:20 pm

Jesus christ, its not a best and fairest award. Its a peer award. Two different things.
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Unread post by Telltails » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:21 pm

stryker wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:10 pm
Telltails wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:54 pm
Teddy players player, Woods given captaincy by the great Mal Meninga - there you go.
There you go what?
How these two are rated/berated on here is not necessarily shared by their playing peers and coaches -just an observation.

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Unread post by stryker » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:53 pm

Telltails wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:21 pm
stryker wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:10 pm
Telltails wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:54 pm
Teddy players player, Woods given captaincy by the great Mal Meninga - there you go.
There you go what?
How these two are rated/berated on here is not necessarily shared by their playing peers and coaches -just an observation.
I wouldnt be surprised if Mal is throwing Woods a bone to let him down easy for when he isnt selected for the WC. On 2017 form, especially during origin, he'll need some key injuries to make it.

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Unread post by Telltails » Wed 13 Sep, 2017 8:18 pm

stryker wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:53 pm
Telltails wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:21 pm
stryker wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:10 pm
Telltails wrote:
Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:54 pm
Teddy players player, Woods given captaincy by the great Mal Meninga - there you go.
There you go what?
How these two are rated/berated on here is not necessarily shared by their playing peers and coaches -just an observation.
I wouldnt be surprised if Mal is throwing Woods a bone to let him down easy for when he isnt selected for the WC. On 2017 form, especially during origin, he'll need some key injuries to make it.
He certainly will have some competition, and will have to make the most of his opportunity.
Still, to be given the captaincy by Mal is a great honour even knowing that he is keeping it warm for Smith.

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