Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

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Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Post by The Patriot » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 6:18 pm

Abraham wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 1:04 pm

There are ways around it obviously, one of which is signing our own replacement coach for 2021, to give some certainty and stability to any potential recruits. Its a gamble committing to a coach that far ahead though.

Thats a great point. Not that hard, we have a season and a bit to line someone up.
Its an opinion!


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Post by TonyTiger » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 6:57 pm

The Patriot wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 6:18 pm
Abraham wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 1:04 pm

There are ways around it obviously, one of which is signing our own replacement coach for 2021, to give some certainty and stability to any potential recruits. Its a gamble committing to a coach that far ahead though.

You watch Ivan the dog take Esan Masters with him to the Panthers. Both Ivan and Esan expire with the Tigers at the same time.


Thats a great point. Not that hard, we have a season and a bit to line someone up.

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Post by TonyTiger » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 6:57 pm

You watch Ivan the dog take Esan Masters with him to the Panthers. Both Ivan and Esan expire with the Tigers at the same time.

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Post by tiger05premier » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:00 pm

The Patriot wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 6:18 pm
Abraham wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 1:04 pm

There are ways around it obviously, one of which is signing our own replacement coach for 2021, to give some certainty and stability to any potential recruits. Its a gamble committing to a coach that far ahead though.

Thats a great point. Not that hard, we have a season and a bit to line someone up.
I think it's a good idea

Sign someone like McGuire from 2020 to work under NC

Get to know the players

Help with recruitment and retention

Help with juniors

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Post by tiger05premier » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:02 pm

TonyTiger wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 6:57 pm
You watch Ivan the dog take Esan Masters with him to the Panthers. Both Ivan and Esan expire with the Tigers at the same time.
That's why we employ IC replacement for 2020

To get to know the players and keep the one's we want


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Post by TonyTiger » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:04 pm

Too late by then - we need a new coach starting 2019

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Post by gallagher » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:19 pm

Sign up Maguire as coaching director now and don't release Cleary. Sack him once Penrith appoint a coach.

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Post by Spud Murphy » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:24 pm

TonyTiger wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 6:57 pm
You watch Ivan the dog take Esan Masters with him to the Panthers. Both Ivan and Esan expire with the Tigers at the same time.
I don't think that will happen.

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Post by TonyTiger » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:26 pm

gallagher wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:19 pm
Sign up Maguire as coaching director now and don't release Cleary. Sack him once Penrith appoint a coach.
I LIKE THIS

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Post by WT2K » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:37 pm

gallagher wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:19 pm
Sign up Maguire as coaching director now and don't release Cleary. Sack him once Penrith appoint a coach.
I like it
No more plodders!
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Post by Geo. » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:38 pm

Penrith Panthers prepared for wait to sign Ivan Cleary as coach
AUGUST 09, 2018
PENRITH are prepared to play the long game in their pursuit of Ivan Cleary, adamant they can wait two years to get their man.

In a move that would make Cameron Ciraldo the NRL’s longest caretaker coach, Cleary could be set to see out the final two years of his Tigers deal before switching to the Panthers in 2021.

It appears the highly rated Ciraldo will remain in the head coaching hot seat next season, keeping it warm for Cleary, after Penrith decided against chasing another applicant for the long-term deal.

Ciraldo, who is still just 33, will be supported by recently retired Penrith hooker Peter Wallace, club general manager Phil Gould and Panthers vice-chairman and great Greg Alexander.

Cleary’s move will guarantee his son and NSW halfback, Nathan, signs a long-term deal with the Panthers.

It comes as The Daily Telegraph can reveal the Tigers had discussed extending Cleary’s contract, before the Panthers’ poaching bid surfaced.

“Everybody is of the understanding that the board, when Ivan is off contract, they would like him to be the coach at Panthers,” Panthers group CEO Brian Fletcher said.

Ivan Cleary is Penrith’s preferred choice as head coach. Picture: Brett Costello
“It a sensible thing, when he’s off contract, if he’d like to come back here, and his son is still playing here, he would get the chance to coach him. Nobody would be hurt, no one would break contracts.”

Tigers chair Marina Go last night accused Penrith of unethical behaviour.

“I think it’s really poor form that they have approached our coach when he has two years left on his contract,” Go told Fox Sports’ League Life.

Cleary addressed Tigers players on Wednesday but apparently would not commit either way his plans for next season.

The Tigers board was due to reaffirm their stance on Cleary. The key question now is whether Penrith will give up on Cleary for next season — or test the Tigers’ resolve again.

Cameron Ciraldo is poised remain in the Panthers head coaching hot seat next season.
It could potentially be untenable for Cleary to continue at the Tigers in 2020 considering the Panthers will be planning their recruitment and retention ahead of his arrival for the 2021 season.

There appears little love between Gould and Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe, a former Panthers employee.

Insiders say that at a meeting a fortnight ago, Panthers chairman Dave O’Neill asked Cleary if he wanted to coach Penrith in the future and that he was interested. After The Daily Telegraph revealed the Tigers would consider legal action if the Panthers tried to induce Cleary to break his contract, Penrith on Wednesday night defended themselves.

“We’re not going to get into any bidding war to get Ivan here tomorrow. You have to honour contracts. If Ivan wants to come here tomorrow, yes, we’d have him, it wouldn’t be a problem,’’ Fletcher said.


“We asked him if there was an expression of interest in coming to the Panthers and his answer was yes. We’re not asking him to break that contract but we hope he will be here in 2021.

“If he has to honour that and he wants to honour that, there isn’t a problem in the world. We’re in no hurry to get a coach.

“We’ve got a pretty good coaching system with Cameron, Peter Wallace with Phil Gould and Greg Alexander overseeing it. Cameron and Peter are in the system. We’re not in any panic stage. We could wait a year-and-a-half, it wouldn’t worry us.

“Knowing Ivan’s qualities, he will honour the contract but, then again, Wests Tigers might think that if Ivan wants to coach his son and his son is going to play at Penrith, they might let him go. But that’s up to them. We’re not there to pinch Ivan off Wests Tigers.”

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Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..

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Post by Geo. » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:41 pm

So arrogant..a pox on Penrith..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..

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Post by akpinareren1 » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:42 pm

I’m so confused why everyones so outraged. Nothing has happened so far. Ivan hasn’t signed with the panthers for 2021 yet. We signed him for two more years so why is everyone already assuming he’ll definitely be gone. Its like us complaining corey thompson is ‘definitely’ leaving us when his contract ends.

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Post by hobbo » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:51 pm

WT2K wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:37 pm
gallagher wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:19 pm
Sign up Maguire as coaching director now and don't release Cleary. Sack him once Penrith appoint a coach.
I like it
Lock me in Eddie !
We need mongrel ..
No more plodders !

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Post by vlad » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:00 pm

TonyTiger wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 6:57 pm
You watch Ivan the dog take Esan Masters with him to the Panthers. Both Ivan and Esan expire with the Tigers at the same time.
Start signing the young guys we want long term like the Broncos have done so Wayne can’t take them with him ( they’d release Darius though )

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Post by Donald Trump » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:05 pm

All this for a coach who hasn’t achieved that much.

Get rid of him now. Regardless of his contract. If he doesn’t want to be here then go. No point holding on.

By the way. One of his kids is named Jet. Seriously? Must be a knob to call your kid Jet.
Let's make the Tigers great again!

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Post by Cairnstigers » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:07 pm

So if Ivan wants to leave it's on him
Penrith back off for now so it doesnt tarnish thier club
Pressure on Ivan
Dont let him go
Sign Madge as a coaching Director

Madge signs and let's go players
Steps in to coaching role after Ivan is gone

Or Ivan re signs
Nathan signs on with us
We keep Brooks
Liddle comes good
Farrah as back up
Mbye smashes it at fullback
Twal Eisenhuth and Aloiai all step up
We are ready for a tilt in 2020

Sorry I think I was dreaming

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Post by TonyTiger » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:13 pm

akpinareren1 wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:42 pm
I’m so confused why everyones so outraged. Nothing has happened so far. Ivan hasn’t signed with the panthers for 2021 yet. We signed him for two more years so why is everyone already assuming he’ll definitely be gone. Its like us complaining corey thompson is ‘definitely’ leaving us when his contract ends.
Pull you head out of the sand.

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