Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

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Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Post by Cultured Bogan » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 7:43 pm

He owes you jack Drumpf. Good chance the club gagged him.
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Post by rex2ce » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 7:43 pm

At no stage did we have any guarantee that Ivan or any other coach would re sign after this contract expires, coaches commonly negotiate an extension during current contract and he can still do this if it suits he and the club

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 7:50 pm

rex2ce wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 7:43 pm
At no stage did we have any guarantee that Ivan or any other coach would re sign after this contract expires, coaches commonly negotiate an extension during current contract and he can still do this if it suits he and the club
Ahhhh don't let objective thought get in the way of a good rant.
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Post by Cairnstigers » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:00 pm

rex2ce wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 7:43 pm
At no stage did we have any guarantee that Ivan or any other coach would re sign after this contract expires, coaches commonly negotiate an extension during current contract and he can still do this if it suits he and the club
That is exactly right
Ivan has committed for the next two years
We all know that NOW
The term of Ivan's original contract stand
That is all we can ask
If Ivan re signs for a longer term I think that could be an advantage to us to continue to build this great club
We have shown we can mix it with the best
That's what we all want to be competitive and to win games

3 weeks to go and we still have a chance to make the finals
If Ivan decides to go to another club after his term is finished then that is his prerogative
I would not begrudge him that
I am happy he has clarified his position and that he will honour his original contract
I am sure all the players feel some relief and I believe that we saw the results of that today
It's a massive turn around from past results
Well done team and Ivan
Here's to the next two years
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Post by TrueTiger » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:12 pm

Donald Trump wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 11:39 am
Get rid of Cleary.

He is conniving.

So bad for our prep this week.

Raiders to put 50 on us today.
How you feeling now DT,we won by 2 and didnt have 50 put on us as you hoped...I didnt see a coniving man,I saw a proffessional coach preparing his team for an assault on the finals...

Ivan addressed this situation when he could,not when you and others wanted him to...kudos to him for staring adversity in the face and putting the club and team first....must hurt some on here to be proven wrong because they decided to join the media frenzy and not know or have the facts first..
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Post by TonyTiger » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:23 pm

TrueTiger wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:12 pm
Donald Trump wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 11:39 am
Get rid of Cleary.

He is conniving.

So bad for our prep this week.

Raiders to put 50 on us today.
How you feeling now DT,we won by 2 and didnt have 50 put on us as you hoped...I didnt see a coniving man,I saw a proffessional coach preparing his team for an assault on the finals...

Ivan addressed this situation when he could,not when you and others wanted him to...kudos to him for staring adversity in the face and putting the club and team first....must hurt some on here to be proven wrong because they decided to join the media frenzy and not know or have the facts first..
Oh please, pass me the vomit bucket!
Let me guess, you are under 15yo, your Mum set you up on the Forum and you got sand kicked in you face at the beach today ... you’ve made some sort of ‘fantasy’ victory in your own mind...
Now off to bed, you have a big day at school tomorrow.

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Post by OldMagpie » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:24 pm

I’m not so sure if Nathan is a little selfish myself.
His father was unceremoniously SACKED!!!
Does he not remember that Penrith has been very disrespectful to his father and family.
Wouldn’t it make sense for him to give his family and his Dad a fresh start at a new club, obviously his father was contemplating going to Penrith to appease his son as he has been there a long time. After everything a father has done to make his son always happy, wouldn’t it make sense for Nathan to do something for his dad ? If Nathan is so mature, why not stand up for your family and their dignity & start fresh, leave everything behind. Real young Men, make a name for themselves by sticking up for their family. Everybody looks at you different when you stand up for what’s most important to you in life...... your family!

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Post by Pawsandclaws » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:26 pm

I watched the post match presser and was impressed with Russell Packer as he took the heat of the coach. Funny how he was more interested in watching the Storm v Sharks game.

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Post by innsaneink » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:31 pm

TonyTiger wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:23 pm
TrueTiger wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:12 pm
Donald Trump wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 11:39 am
Get rid of Cleary.

He is conniving.

So bad for our prep this week.

Raiders to put 50 on us today.
How you feeling now DT,we won by 2 and didnt have 50 put on us as you hoped...I didnt see a coniving man,I saw a proffessional coach preparing his team for an assault on the finals...

Ivan addressed this situation when he could,not when you and others wanted him to...kudos to him for staring adversity in the face and putting the club and team first....must hurt some on here to be proven wrong because they decided to join the media frenzy and not know or have the facts first..
Oh please, pass me the vomit bucket!
Let me guess, you are under 15yo, your Mum set you up on the Forum and you got sand kicked in you face at the beach today ... you’ve made some sort of ‘fantasy’ victory in your own mind...
Now off to bed, you have a big day at school tomorrow.
Thats some reply there Tony
I see true tiger present the facts
I see you present insults.
Says it all

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Post by NT Tiger » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:32 pm

Telltails wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 7:21 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 5:47 pm
Telltails wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 7:38 am
NT Tiger wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 6:24 am


Yep! AS I said earlier, it says more about the character of those making the comments than about the character of the man himself.
Oh please...save your holier than thou judgements of others in regard to Ivan just because you interpret the information different to others, and want to believe he is innocent of any wrong doing in relation to this matter. I wanted to believe that too - but nothing for five days.

All I wanted from Ivan is to demonstrate that the "vitriol" that has been pedaled out about being on the bus that we have been listening to for the last eighteen months still applies to him. There was enough that happened and was reported that questioned that.
Yes we got the prepared statement yesterday 5 days later, but all he had to to was unequivocally deny that he had any interest in the coaching position at Penrith, as soon as the information came out, and story over.

But he didn't - and in doing so what could have been put to bed as misinformation and innuendo, instead resulted in lots of doubt about what his intentions are - that all rests with Ivan, the club, and or both.
Oh please?? I stand by what I said. Nothing holy about it, just giving someone the benefit of the doubt when there is no evidence to the contrary. If you want to hang him without evidence, thats your issue.
"All I wanted from Ivan." Now that is an OH PLEASE!
Ivan owes you nothing, he was hung out to dry by the media just so the vultures could have a feed.
Save the moral high ground rant NT. Seem to recall you being vocal about the character of others based on information fed by the media without giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Dont think I have ever attacked Ivans character, but questioned his commitment this week especially when he remained quiet on the matter, and with the knowledge that he wants to coach his son. His silence allowed the story to gain momentum and whether it was his choice to stay silent or not - if there was no truth in it it could have been shut down five days ago. Its that simple.
I have always been vocal in my support for Cleary but am over the focus being on coaching Nathan. If anything the events of the last week may have thwarted that for a period of time and Ivan can give his complete attention to coaching the WTs.- and without Ivan owing me anything - Im more than happy with that.
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Post by innsaneink » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:33 pm

Donald Trump wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 7:41 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 2:43 pm
Donald Trump wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 1:12 pm
jirskyr wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 12:34 pm

The real question you need to ask, beyond your dumb and unproven comments about "conniving", is what happens if we WIN today?

We've lost 6 of the last 7 against Canberra and they've scored at least 46 points in our last 4 matches. The most we've posted in these 4 games is 12 points, which was the last game and it was 12-10 to us at HT.

We were sufficiently prepared for those games and we all know that the 2016 Rd 26 match was playing for a place in the finals.

So what if we actually win today, what does that say about the "alternative" preparation of this week?

Raiders putting 50 on us is just par since 2016.
I’m happy to be proven wrong Jirksy
No... That doesn't wash.
You need to prove you're right
I’m happy that we won however in the long run I will be the one saying I told you so. Ask Jirk. He knows
Yep....righto :lol:

You can say 'i told you so'......down the track, IF its warranted

Solid stuff I must say

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Post by tiger05premier » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:33 pm

OldMagpie wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:24 pm
I’m not so sure if Nathan is a little selfish myself.
His father was unceremoniously SACKED!!!
Does he not remember that Penrith has been very disrespectful to his father and family.
Wouldn’t it make sense for him to give his family and his Dad a fresh start at a new club, obviously his father was contemplating going to Penrith to appease his son as he has been there a long time. After everything a father has done to make his son always happy, wouldn’t it make sense for Nathan to do something for his dad ? If Nathan is so mature, why not stand up for your family and their dignity & start fresh, leave everything behind. Real young Men, make a name for themselves by sticking up for their family. Everybody looks at you different when you stand up for what’s most important to you in life...... your family!
Best post ao far

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Post by ryanda01 » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:34 pm

Pawsandclaws wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:26 pm
I watched the post match presser and was impressed with Russell Packer as he took the heat of the coach. Funny how he was more interested in watching the Storm v Sharks game.
I had a big chuckle at that. But in saying that I don’t know how to take it. On the one hand I think it’s hilarous this bloke just loves footy and gets sidetracked watching another game. On the other hand he’s supposed to be a captain representing the team so looks a tad unprofessional.

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Post by trumper » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:00 pm

ryanda01 wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:34 pm
Pawsandclaws wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:26 pm
I watched the post match presser and was impressed with Russell Packer as he took the heat of the coach. Funny how he was more interested in watching the Storm v Sharks game.
I had a big chuckle at that. But in saying that I don’t know how to take it. On the one hand I think it’s hilarous this bloke just loves footy and gets sidetracked watching another game. On the other hand he’s supposed to be a captain representing the team so looks a tad unprofessional.
I thought he made that comment to emphasise how bored he was by questions relating to Ivan’s future plans. Packer is nobody’s fool.

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Post by TigerTiger » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:07 pm

ryanda01 wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:34 pm
Pawsandclaws wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 8:26 pm
I watched the post match presser and was impressed with Russell Packer as he took the heat of the coach. Funny how he was more interested in watching the Storm v Sharks game.
I had a big chuckle at that. But in saying that I don’t know how to take it. On the one hand I think it’s hilarous this bloke just loves footy and gets sidetracked watching another game. On the other hand he’s supposed to be a captain representing the team so looks a tad unprofessional.
I'm with your first thought mate. I think after the rubbish that came out of the media this week, to show them a little disrespect was fair enough. Especially after again they were trying to get a rise out of Ivan after he told them to back off. And Packer says what disruption and they both laugh.

Hoping it bonded our team even closer. Under siege, us vs the other teams, the refs, and the media. Vs Gus. Go Tigers...
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Post by cktiger » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:10 pm

So we won .
Couldn’t be happier.
Doesn’t change the fact Cleary would have been better advised to come out earlier and commit..
Can see both sides of the story, but really, would it have been too hard .
Just looked like he was weighing up his options.

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Post by Tiger Steve » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:21 pm

cktiger wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:10 pm
So we won .
Couldn’t be happier.
Doesn’t change the fact Cleary would have been better advised to come out earlier and commit..
Can see both sides of the story, but really, would it have been too hard .
Just looked like he was weighing up his options.
Far out - move on.

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Post by sideline eye » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:51 pm

I didn't think that I'd see this again but this thread has thrown up the same sort of abuse that was thrown at Jason Taylor, for different reasons. Just as childish, too.

Anyway, time to move on, nothing to see here except whatever the mind may throw up.

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