Memo Ray Hadley..

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Re: Memo Ray Hadley..

Post by Andyvee » Sat 10 Aug, 2013 4:48 pm

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azsportza wrote:This can extend to Anthony Maroon on Triple M last night. He continually pronounced Seumanufagai's surname as

See-you-manu-fang-eye...made it sound like fungi at times.
Well how would you pronounce it?

I think this is a rubbish thread in my opinion. I don't think they are offensive at all. I also think they pronounce the names as they are advised.
I think some people have run out of trash talking the tigers they gotta start having a go at the commentators for name pronunciation?
Please.

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Hadley is a mug, and should not be calling Parra games, as he cannot be impartial due to being a hardcore Parra supporter. Similar to Wally Lewis and any of the 3 Qld teams!


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Post by tigerbalm » Sat 10 Aug, 2013 5:16 pm

It was a battle of the spoon. There is only so many times a commentator can call " and he's lost the ball" before the general league fan will start flicking channels. I don't like Hadley/ warren but it must be hard to remain interested and enthusiastic about calling a train wreck.

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Post by whoneedstherapy » Sat 10 Aug, 2013 5:24 pm

I really don't like Ray's commentary style. His role is to commentate the game and too often he sounds like he wants to be the centre of attention. I would prefer channel 9 find someone else for his role. I don't mind if someone mispronounces a name but to make fun of it is awful. The speed of which a law suit would come at you if you made fun of hadley in a similar fashion would make Usain Bolt look like John Goodman.

His abuse of ben roberts performance, among other players, last night was unprofessional. His noticable increase in volume when Hayne touched the ball and did nothing exceptional was also ridiculous. Lets not talk about the lollies either...

You only have to look at how Mike Carlton's pieces on hadley have been edited to see what he truly is.

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Post by DonnyBrasco » Sat 10 Aug, 2013 10:38 pm

To the tigsta, I guess you either were not listening to the audio or don't understand what is unacceptable or unprofessional.

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Post by pHyR3 » Sat 10 Aug, 2013 10:52 pm

Why is Ava's last name pronounced with a 'n' sound? I thought the commentators were getting it wrong initally, but dont think so anymore. Woulda though it was seumanufaGai with a hard g. Or is that how g's are pronounced by Maori's. Kind of like the obvious, WHakatane
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Post by formerguest » Sun 11 Aug, 2013 4:58 pm

I don't worry too much about the pronunciation, but can't stand his voice at all, let alone putting up with it for a game of league.

Oh how I miss the dulcet tones of Andrew Voss. Our loss, and NZ's gain.

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Post by Winnipeg » Mon 12 Aug, 2013 1:43 am

pHyR3 wrote:Why is Ava's last name pronounced with a 'n' sound? I thought the commentators were getting it wrong initally, but dont think so anymore. Woulda though it was seumanufaGai with a hard g. Or is that how g's are pronounced by Maori's. Kind of like the obvious, WHakatane

Ava is Samoan, not Maori

Samoans will always have a G that sounds like 'ng' as in seumanufagai, fa'alogo, lagi setu etc.

Pretty sure Tagatese is being pronounced wrong, should be Tangatese, but I might not be right on that

If its spelt out ng then they are most likely Tongan. Ie mosese pangai is Tongan I suspect

The above would be true in 99.9% of cases but don't take it as an absolute rule ;)

Whakatane is actually pronounced 'faka', there are heaps of Tongan words starting in 'faka' and I think 'fa'a' is the Samoan equivalent

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Post by Winnipeg » Mon 12 Aug, 2013 1:51 am

As for Hadley... He's the worst commentator in a long time. Him and rabs have already made their jokes about Ava's name when he made his debut in rd 3, pretty sure he should be over it by now

I think the name should be pronounced soo or syoo manufangai, definitely not see-you in 2 syllables

If they were smart (they aren't) they would've just stuck with 'big Ava'

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Post by Winnipeg » Mon 12 Aug, 2013 1:52 am

Also yeah Harley's pro-parra bias was on full display

Jeez it really was a terrible night for so many reasons

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Post by Phantomlock » Mon 12 Aug, 2013 5:12 am

Winnipeg wrote:
pHyR3 wrote:Why is Ava's last name pronounced with a 'n' sound? I thought the commentators were getting it wrong initally, but dont think so anymore. Woulda though it was seumanufaGai with a hard g. Or is that how g's are pronounced by Maori's. Kind of like the obvious, WHakatane

Ava is Samoan, not Maori

Samoans will always have a G that sounds like 'ng' as in seumanufagai, fa'alogo, lagi setu etc.

Pretty sure Tagatese is being pronounced wrong, should be Tangatese, but I might not be right on that

If its spelt out ng then they are most likely Tongan. Ie mosese pangai is Tongan I suspect

The above would be true in 99.9% of cases but don't take it as an absolute rule ;)

Whakatane is actually pronounced 'faka', there are heaps of Tongan words starting in 'faka' and I think 'fa'a' is the Samoan equivalent
Spot on mate. You've pretty much got all of that right - 'g' is like how the 'NG' is prounounced in SiNGapore, so variations of that for each of the vowels are NGa, NGo, NGe, NGi, NGu - vowels are pronouced slightly differently too by the way.

Culturally in Māori and Pacific Island nations it's a sign of respect IF ONE TAKES THE TIME to correctly pronounce their name. With the proliferation of Pacific and Māori players playing it's not too much to ask is it. Rabs butchers names as well and sadly he jokes about it. Not good form from him either!

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