Willow's match report and player review

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Post by tigerdre » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 4:06 pm

tomcat wrote:moltzen very good in attack at fullback.? you have no idea.. seriously

NO SERIOUSLY!!!
Moltzen is a very good attacking fullback.In just about all our games in 09 he put himself in great attacking positions but he's an even better 1/2 back
but at our club in your opinion who would you have at fullback?It's not Brown cause i know you don't rate him


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Post by tomcat » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 4:13 pm

i really dont think you have to be a good judge of football to realise Moltzen is not a good attacking fullback,we dont have a specialist fullback. i'd promote mullaney . now this guy can attack!!
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Post by Geo. » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 4:26 pm

tomcat wrote:so you telling me geo that moltzen is a good attacking fullback? moltzen looks to timid at the back, always looking for his wingers to do his dirty work..
Gee I don't know....Maybe it's part of Sheens Gameplan....Given the options who would you rather bring the ball back...Tuiaki '09, Ryan (who more often than not breaks the first tackle) and then have your fullback, Moltzen ready for the next play cause he can do something with the ball....

Remember...Moltzen is learning to be a First Grade Fullback....He needs to work on his positional play for sure but at the moment with the squad we have he is the best option....Mullaney needs more time IMO...

I was hoping Brown would step up but from watching the Rorters game and reports from yesterday he's not the answer at fullback...I'm just hoping he's done enough to hold out Fitzhenry....

If you belive the hype, The Fullback spot is just being warmed for Lortay anyway...
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Post by willow » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 5:16 pm

Snowy wrote:Does anyone know if we had any injury concerns out of the trial?
Apparently Lui was limping with a sore foot but reckons he'll be right for round 1. Benji had strapping on his ankle whilst helping the team with the warm up. No other publicised injuries to come out of it.
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Post by willow » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 5:18 pm

tomcat wrote:i really dont think you have to be a good judge of football to realise Moltzen is not a good attacking fullback,we dont have a specialist fullback. i'd promote mullaney . now this guy can attack!!
I don't believe he's ready for FG just yet, not after yesterday. Cronulla were pretty ordinary but Mullaney was quiet in attack. I'd be bumping him up to State Cup to see how he goes there first.


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Post by Snowy » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 5:23 pm

willow wrote:
Snowy wrote:Does anyone know if we had any injury concerns out of the trial?
Apparently Lui was limping with a sore foot but reckons he'll be right for round 1. Benji had strapping on his ankle whilst helping the team with the warm up. No other publicised injuries to come out of it.

Good news, thanks willow.
Also loved your match report great work :master:

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Post by tomcat » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 5:37 pm

nice match report willow..
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Post by tigerdre » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 7:40 pm

tomcat wrote:i really dont think you have to be a good judge of football to realise Moltzen is not a good attacking fullback,we dont have a specialist fullback. i'd promote mullaney . now this guy can attack!!
There is no doubt Mullaney is going to be a superstar but it doesn't seem like he's ready yet
we just have to wait till Lote turns up i suppose.I would stick with Brown till then

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Post by tomcat » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 8:28 pm

lote .brown ,daniella ,moltzen ha ha you pick the fullback.. it's beginning to be a joke,
better still, pick the half back, ha ha FAIR DINCUM !!!
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Post by Balmain Bug » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 8:32 pm

Watch a youtube video footage of Benji at his best. It is when he is playing as a wide 5/8 or inside centre in the old money. The wider Benji is the more room he has to move. This has a two prong result as it makes the defence move up alot quicker with someone like him out wide and will often present itself as a staggered defensive line after a while.

Lui is a 5/8. Does anyone here disagree with me on that? I may be robbing Peter to pay Paul but I think that Lui doesn't have enough time with the ball in his hands at 7 and he stuffs up.

Moltz I reakon is a halfback. If Moltz and Lui are 7 and 6 and can give quick and regular service to Benji we will carve up.

Having Lawrence at fullback was my other selection. What this does is it gives us the size that the Fonz obviously wants at fullback. It gives us the fastest player in the club chimming in up the middle as well. Just like when Mighty Mouse smoked everyone last year. Lawrence is faster.

Lotto can learn and adjust on Taniela's left wing and Beau Ryan can play on the right wing. Ayshford can play an old fashioned outside centre role.

I think it is worth a try. I think it will be a success because it will give Robert Lui more time with the ball in his hands as the defence moves up.

If you have Moltzen at 7 you can put a 5/8 on either side of the ruck with Moltzen deciding to switch play to the other 5/8 (being Marshall). Then all other player dont need to be ballplayers they can be metre eaters.

Whe the three prong attack in the halves and Robbie at dummy half the opposition would not know where to look first. They would be thinking "Which one will we watch" !!

I would try this in round one.
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Post by willow » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 8:41 pm

I see the logic in what you're saying BB, but does Sheens? He's got his mind pretty much made up I reckon, no amount of speculation from us (although while it offers good debate) will change his mind.

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Post by Paris Cobbs » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 9:48 pm

Thanks, as always, Willow. As mentioned before, I will be relying on your reports this year as there doesn't seem to be any way of getting NRL games in Paris. Even the 'Oz Bars' (theme bars, with crocodile decor and photos of Ausralian sportsmen) only screen Tests and the Grand Final (which the Tigers will be in!).

As for selections, I don't mind the idea of Chris Lawrence as a fullback, but he needed to get a run there in a trial and he didn't, so it doesn't look like Sheens has that in mind at all. For mine, the Moltzen/Marshall combination has proven itself and should be an automatic pick. That will leave us with a caretaker fullback until Lote is ready, which will be a while. I wouldn't object to the Fitz or Mullaney or Beau Ryan.
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Post by Yossarian » Sun 28 Feb, 2010 11:59 pm

Geo. wrote:
tomcat wrote:so you telling me geo that moltzen is a good attacking fullback? moltzen looks to timid at the back, always looking for his wingers to do his dirty work..
Gee I don't know....Maybe it's part of Sheens Gameplan....Given the options who would you rather bring the ball back...Tuiaki '09, Ryan (who more often than not breaks the first tackle) and then have your fullback, Moltzen ready for the next play cause he can do something with the ball....
That's all well and good but half the time he'd run 30 metres to find a winger by which time the chasing team were right on them. Every now and then it's a good option but every time gets annoying. Having said that I think he was doing an okay job back there and improving all the time - the obsession with linking with wingers was my only gripe.

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Post by smeghead » Mon 01 Mar, 2010 9:36 am

Balmain Bug wrote:Watch a youtube video footage of Benji at his best. It is when he is playing as a wide 5/8 or inside centre in the old money. The wider Benji is the more room he has to move. This has a two prong result as it makes the defence move up alot quicker with someone like him out wide and will often present itself as a staggered defensive line after a while.

Lui is a 5/8. Does anyone here disagree with me on that? I may be robbing Peter to pay Paul but I think that Lui doesn't have enough time with the ball in his hands at 7 and he stuffs up.

Moltz I reakon is a halfback. If Moltz and Lui are 7 and 6 and can give quick and regular service to Benji we will carve up.

Having Lawrence at fullback was my other selection. What this does is it gives us the size that the Fonz obviously wants at fullback. It gives us the fastest player in the club chimming in up the middle as well. Just like when Mighty Mouse smoked everyone last year. Lawrence is faster.

Lotto can learn and adjust on Taniela's left wing and Beau Ryan can play on the right wing. Ayshford can play an old fashioned outside centre role.

I think it is worth a try. I think it will be a success because it will give Robert Lui more time with the ball in his hands as the defence moves up.

If you have Moltzen at 7 you can put a 5/8 on either side of the ruck with Moltzen deciding to switch play to the other 5/8 (being Marshall). Then all other player dont need to be ballplayers they can be metre eaters.

Whe the three prong attack in the halves and Robbie at dummy half the opposition would not know where to look first. They would be thinking "Which one will we watch" !!

I would try this in round one.
That creates a liability defensively as we play our centres inside our halves defensively and as such you would have a defensive combination of either Lui/Marshall or Moltzen/Marshall and that throws out the balance of things and means you have one of your playmakers in a high workrate defensive slot
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Post by tigerdre » Mon 01 Mar, 2010 10:11 am

tomcat wrote:lote .brown ,daniella ,moltzen ha ha you pick the fullback.. it's beginning to be a joke,
better still, pick the half back, ha ha FAIR DINCUM !!!
Picking the 1/2 back is easy it should be Moltzen from rd1 till the grand final

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Post by IronTiger » Mon 01 Mar, 2010 10:53 am

How about:

1: Marshall

6: Lui
7: Moltzen

Benji and Lui can interchange in attack but with Marshall defending at 1.

just a thought

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Post by Ed Reschs » Mon 01 Mar, 2010 11:38 am

We have potentially the best hooker in the game, the best 5/8th and the best centre in the game and you want to move two of them out of position so you can get a rookie Lui to 5/8th. Are you one of these punters bagging sheens every week? Does anyone remember Moltzens cover tackle on Minichello last year? He can play fullback. TL

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Post by BRET » Mon 01 Mar, 2010 11:55 am

It was great to win but I don't know what everyone is so excited about. I thought the sharks had nothing. BRET would of smashed them too. Best thing I got out of that game is they are coming off a win, hopefully it gives them some confidence and was at the very least more time to gel. But really I don't think we played brilliantly other than for the reason they were too easy.
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