Cleary - One Home Ground..

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Cleary - One Home Ground..

Post by Geo. » Thu 10 May, 2018 5:29 am

Leichhardt wanderers: Tigers want permanent den after five home grounds
By Christian Nicolussi9 May 2018 — 7:16pm

Ivan Cleary has expressed his hopes of one day having the Wests Tigers play out of one ground - not five different venues - to give his team a genuine home-ground advantage. The Tigers return to spiritual Leichhardt Oval on Thursday night against the North Queensland Cowboys in what will be their fifth home ground after just 10 rounds.

The joint venture has already hosted games at ANZ Stadium, Campbelltown, Mt Smart Stadium and Tamworth.
While the Tigers are handsomely rewarded for taking games elsewhere - they pocketed more than $350,000 for hosting Melbourne in Auckland back in round five - Cleary also knows there is no substitute for creating an exciting and intimidating atmosphere at the one permanent home.

Fortress Leichhardt was the one venue Cowboys favourite and future immortal Johnathan Thurston listed as the toughest to play at, and said during an NRL promotion at the start of the season: "Even the 12-year-olds spray me there.''

Cleary had noticed his players get excited about the first match at the iconic inner-western Sydney venue.
Leichhardt and Campbelltown are the traditional bases of Balmain and Wests.

One venue that could be an option for the Tigers moving forward is the new Western Sydney Stadium. "If you're going to be successful long term, one home ground is beneficial,'' Cleary told Fairfax Media. "The fact is we're a merged club, and the reason the club has taken games away is because we haven't been successful over a number of years, and the club needs to put itself into the position to look after the business, or in other words make money.

"It's a responsible decision by the board and the club.
"But there is definitely an on-field advantage with having one home ground.
"The two previous clubs I've worked at the Warriors and Penrith, they had good home grounds.
"When I started we were building, and the home ground was not as strong, but as the club builds - and both those clubs are now in good positions - those home venues are as good as any in terms of opposition teams knowing they're in for it before they even get there. "It's definitely an advantage.''

Cleary would not nominate a venue that appealed to him, but said one - not two - was the most desirable.
He also said it was impossible to not be moved by Leichhardt and its history, with a spirited crowd to help the Tigers try and end a three-match losing streak against the Cowboys. "It's hard to explain, it's one of those grounds where as soon as you walk through the tunnel, the ground is lower than the [seating] and it feels like the crowd is on top of you,'' Cleary said.
"Without getting too deep, there's certainly a spirituality about Leichhardt.''

Benji Marshall returns to the ground for the first time, but is so focused on turning his own form around passed on a few promotional activities involving Leichhardt this week.

Marshall came into the season without a trial and the early expectations of coming off the bench to assist the halves Josh Reynolds and Luke Brooks.

But Marshall has played every match while Reynolds overcomes injury, and has in recent weeks started to plateau.
"He'll be the first to admit his kicking was a bit off last week,'' Cleary said of Marshall, after the Tigers were well beaten for the first time of the year by the Warriors.

"Benji has had more to do than what he first anticipated. Like everyone else, he's trying to find some consistency. But his contributions for us have been enormous on and off the field.''
Russell Packer is a big inclusion for the Tigers, while the returning Jacob Liddle will provide plenty of spark out of dummy-half.

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Post by innsaneink » Thu 10 May, 2018 5:48 am

If we play at Parra we should be operationally & training based at Cambo... If a COE gets built at Concord we can kiss Macarthur goodbye.
Ideally Cambo would be upgraded for us solely

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Post by Geo. » Thu 10 May, 2018 6:06 am

To me it's bottom line Vs giving our team the best opportunity to win football games...

Time for the nomadic existence to end....

Find other ways to build the bottom line...
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Post by NT Tiger » Thu 10 May, 2018 6:33 am

Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 May, 2018 6:06 am
To me it's bottom line Vs giving our team the best opportunity to win football games...

Time for the nomadic existence to end....

Find other ways to build the bottom line...
Build the bottom line by winning games and selling memberships.
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Post by Snake » Thu 10 May, 2018 6:49 am

At last the talk has begun this situation has to be finally bought to a head and a final decision has to be made . As I have previously stated the new state of the art Western Sydney Stadium is my choice it offers central access,small enough to generate great atmosphere, modern facilities for the supporters and Corporations who want to pour money into our club...that is my option time for our club to break the shackles of the past and cement the future. At last talk has begun!


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Post by Tiger Steve » Thu 10 May, 2018 6:51 am

If we miss the finals this year it will be because of a number of factors, most predominantly- the way we play. But, not winning at home would also be a factor. We’ve already lost one game I’m sure we’d have won if it was at Leichhardt instead of Tamworth.
We are a fringe top 8 team at best. To play finals we need a lot to go our way. We need to give ourselves every advantage. A strong, intimidating home ground is an advantage. I go to all home games - Leichhardt is our only home ground with intimidation. We need one home ground and then turn it into a fortress.
PS: ANZ is not the answer.
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Post by TCL » Thu 10 May, 2018 7:08 am

Leichhardt would be a dream come true for me and many from the Balmain side of the merger but that's not who we are anymore.

The idea of playing out of ANZ is like kissing your sister and playing out of a shared Parra is like kissing your cousin.

I would rather it be Campbelltown and a couple of games a year at Leichhardt. Like the Anzac clash, retro round, etc...

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Post by Chris » Thu 10 May, 2018 7:16 am

I'd prefer playing out of Campbelltown with a game or two a year at Leichhardt. SW Sydney is saturated with talent and we should be focusing on building a nursery there as well as our club culture. instead of being split in all corners of the world. Besides, the split should reflect that Balmain only holds a 25% stake in the joint venture.

This is a discussion I could really get into.

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Post by hammertime » Thu 10 May, 2018 7:28 am

The bottom line still needs to be a consideration. We're not a rich club and every dollar has to come from somewhere.

Essentially its asking Ashfield Wests to pay to move the club away from them. Tough ask.

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Post by happy tiger » Thu 10 May, 2018 7:33 am

And none of the current grounds we play at are the answer (in their current state anyway )

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Post by glebe_tiger » Thu 10 May, 2018 7:55 am

Atm we need to be at all these grounds for historical and financial reasons. Has it had an affect on recent performances? Maybe a little. But where do we play? ANZ with the vast empty seats. New parra stadium? which will in effect be us being tenants of parra's home ground (their leagues club is still close by). Or split 50/50 in our traditional home grounds with marked upgrades to both?
Anyone that thinks the AFL model of all sydney teams funneling all their games into 2-3 stadiums is wishful thinking. NRL is very different and the fans won't support it. Crowds have not gone up in huge numbers over the years which tells me we have peaked in terms of bums on seats. NRL can't have it both ways expecting sydney people to get out to the games and expect bumper tv ratings at the same time.

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Post by happy tiger » Thu 10 May, 2018 8:01 am

glebe_tiger wrote:
Thu 10 May, 2018 7:55 am
Atm we need to be at all these grounds for historical and financial reasons. Has it had an affect on recent performances? Maybe a little. But where do we play? ANZ with the vast empty seats. New parra stadium? which will in effect be us being tenants of parra's home ground (their leagues club is still close by). Or split 50/50 in our traditional home grounds with marked upgrades to both?
Anyone that thinks the AFL model of all sydney teams funneling all their games into 2-3 stadiums is wishful thinking. NRL is very different and the fans won't support it. Crowds have not gone up in huge numbers over the years which tells me we have peaked in terms of bums on seats. NRL can't have it both ways expecting sydney people to get out to the games and expect bumper tv ratings at the same time.
Double headers are the answers .....

Could we possibly team up with another club and have say 13 double headers at home and share the rewards ??

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Post by Abraham » Thu 10 May, 2018 8:06 am

We still go back to the problem that unless the stadium is busting at the seems, we lose money when we play at the suburban grounds.

If we play at Leichhardt, we get the home ground intimidation factor.
If we play at Campbelltown, we get to cement a presense in the South West.
If we play at one of the big stadiums, we lose both of the above, but get to negotiate a financial reward.

This is why no administration has made a concrete decision on a home ground, they have been trying to take a little out of each option. It also means abandoning one or both geographical areas if we pick one over the rest.

I wish there was an easy answer that ticks all the boxes, but there isnt.

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Post by glebe_tiger » Thu 10 May, 2018 8:08 am

Couple double headers plenty enough for the year :)

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Post by Juro » Thu 10 May, 2018 8:33 am

I'm really looking forward to seeing what the new stadium at Parra is like. If it is as good as I hope, I wouldn't mind us playing home games there.
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Post by Earl » Thu 10 May, 2018 8:44 am

It's a tough problem. We come from two different clubs and one of those clubs has different constituents (Wests have the Inner West and the Macarthur).

Happy also makes the point our grounds are also not up to it.

I'd like to see one ground and probably in the Marcarthur but that alienates fans plus paying for a quality footy ground would be expensive. Campbelltown also doesn't get a huge number of fans turning up.

It's not a problem that I'd like to solve.

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Post by Tigerdon » Thu 10 May, 2018 8:47 am

I don’t like the idea of playing out of a rival clubs home ground. I think we will lose part of our identity.

If there are three new rectangular grounds, I wouldn’t choose the Parra one.
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Post by Russell » Thu 10 May, 2018 9:02 am

innsaneink wrote:
Thu 10 May, 2018 5:48 am
If we play at Parra we should be operationally & training based at Cambo... If a COE gets built at Concord we can kiss Macarthur goodbye.
Ideally Cambo would be upgraded for us solely
I'll be happy to kiss the "non support Tigers" Macarthur GOODBYE. Bunch of leaches.

I'd be happy with Parra stadium and a game at Leichhardt.

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