Slow Moving Turtles in 2019-2020?

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Slow Moving Turtles in 2019-2020?

Post by Eddie » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:08 pm

Im not sure what we are building here if we cant get in and grind with teams? Thats what we are meant to be good at. Our ball control has been horrible for 8-10 weeks and our tackling has fallen away badly.

Slow forwards that cant dent the line. Slow and under sized outside backs. Its not a recipe for winning games regularly.

Journeyman, Ageing players on big contracts from losing clubs and some reserve graders. Thats what we came into 2018 with. I expected 8 wins and so far we have 7.

Mbye is the sort of player he need. Pacy, at 24 has upside to improve.

However How much improvement do Packer, Mats, Reynolds, Macqueen have in them?Be ok if they were on 1-2 year deals but some or all are on 4 ?! Is there much to look forward to with this side next year? Or will be like slow moving turtles trying hard early int he year but then hitting a massive brick wall?

When your rebuilding you want to get a bit better each year. I didn't expect much this year but I dont want to see us going backwards next year. I think there is a chance we could be a bottom feeder the next 2 years with an ageing side that lacks pace and power

I think we need to abandon signing any more players from losing clubs or ageing player, or from the recycle bin. We need speed, size, pace and youth. Easier said then done. But please no more 28 year old journeyman.

Cleary has had 12 months with little to no pressure however now he needs to start sorting this squad out for the future. Otherwise it might not be looking too rosy for us and him in the next 2 years.Cause as things stand currently I'm not sure what there is to get excited about in 2019 and 2020.


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Post by TIGER » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:29 pm

It all stars in the engine room and I'm sorry but Packer and Matulino aren't good enough.
If they're our props for the next few years we'll finish 10th to spoon every year.

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Post by hobbo » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:32 pm

We're screwed ....the tunnel has collapsed and we’re heading backwards..
We need mongrel ..
No more plodders !

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Post by jadtiger » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:36 pm

TIGER wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:29 pm
It all stars in the engine room and I'm sorry but Packer and Matulino aren't good enough.
If they're our props for the next few years we'll finish 10th to spoon every year.
Which is why Twal should start and one of packer/mats to bench.If we can pick up another prop even better so we can improve the rotation
Grant to go elsewhere

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Post by bp tiger » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:38 pm

lets face it we need forwards badly, and the fact we didnt bring woods back, when the dogs would pay some of his wages will bit the club on the bum. really cant see where the hell he will get the 3-4 good forwards we need. think ivans done a good job with what he got but we need to start shopping at MYERS NOT ALIDI.


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Post by Snake » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:42 pm

bp tiger wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:38 pm
lets face it we need forwards badly, and the fact we didnt bring woods back, when the dogs would pay some of his wages will bit the club on the bum. really cant see where the hell he will get the 3-4 good forwards we need. think ivans done a good job with what he got but we need to start shopping at MYERS NOT ALIDI.
David Jones thanks that is where the Marquee signings are !

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Post by old boy » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 8:14 pm

bp tiger wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:38 pm
lets face it we need forwards badly, and the fact we didnt bring woods back, when the dogs would pay some of his wages will bit the club on the bum. really cant see where the hell he will get the 3-4 good forwards we need. think ivans done a good job with what he got but we need to start shopping at MYERS NOT ALIDI.
Not a very fair comparison.........Aldi is light years ahead of this tigers franchise.

A more fair comparison would be "we need to start shopping at MYERS not digging up turds in the slums of Calcutta."

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Post by the third » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 8:59 pm

jadtiger wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:36 pm
TIGER wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:29 pm
It all stars in the engine room and I'm sorry but Packer and Matulino aren't good enough.
If they're our props for the next few years we'll finish 10th to spoon every year.
Which is why Twal should start and one of packer/mats to bench.If we can pick up another prop even better so we can improve the rotation
Grant to go elsewhere
This. Twal to start

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Post by the third » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 8:59 pm

jadtiger wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:36 pm
TIGER wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:29 pm
It all stars in the engine room and I'm sorry but Packer and Matulino aren't good enough.
If they're our props for the next few years we'll finish 10th to spoon every year.
Which is why Twal should start and one of packer/mats to bench.If we can pick up another prop even better so we can improve the rotation
Grant to go elsewhere
This. Twal to start

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Post by happy tiger » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:06 pm

Eddie wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:08 pm
Im not sure what we are building here if we cant get in and grind with teams? Thats what we are meant to be good at. Our ball control has been horrible for 8-10 weeks and our tackling has fallen away badly.

Slow forwards that cant dent the line. Slow and under sized outside backs. Its not a recipe for winning games regularly.

Journeyman, Ageing players on big contracts from losing clubs and some reserve graders. Thats what we came into 2018 with. I expected 8 wins and so far we have 7.

Mbye is the sort of player he need. Pacy, at 24 has upside to improve.

However How much improvement do Packer, Mats, Reynolds, Macqueen have in them?Be ok if they were on 1-2 year deals but some or all are on 4 ?! Is there much to look forward to with this side next year? Or will be like slow moving turtles trying hard early int he year but then hitting a massive brick wall?

When your rebuilding you want to get a bit better each year. I didn't expect much this year but I dont want to see us going backwards next year. I think there is a chance we could be a bottom feeder the next 2 years with an ageing side that lacks pace and power

I think we need to abandon signing any more players from losing clubs or ageing player, or from the recycle bin. We need speed, size, pace and youth. Easier said then done. But please no more 28 year old journeyman.

Cleary has had 12 months with little to no pressure however now he needs to start sorting this squad out for the future. Otherwise it might not be looking too rosy for us and him in the next 2 years.Cause as things stand currently I'm not sure what there is to get excited about in 2019 and 2020.
Titans are a "losing club " you wouldn't sign their entire forward pack .......

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Post by supercoach » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:10 pm

The bottom line Eddie, how can Cleary offload blokes like McQueen, Reynolds,Packer and Matt’s?? There has to be some demand and I doubt any club would be willing to sign them even with us paying some of the freight.

But your right we have to start signing winners or exceptional young talent and get away from 28 year old plodders

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Post by Demps » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:12 pm

supercoach wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:10 pm
The bottom line Eddie, how can Cleary offload blokes like McQueen, Reynolds,Packer and Matt’s?? There has to be some demand and I doubt any club would be willing to sign them even with us paying some of the freight.

But your right we have to start signing winners or exceptional young talent and get away from 28 year old plodders
Logic hey?

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Post by sheer64 » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:12 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:06 pm
Eddie wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:08 pm
Im not sure what we are building here if we cant get in and grind with teams? Thats what we are meant to be good at. Our ball control has been horrible for 8-10 weeks and our tackling has fallen away badly.

Slow forwards that cant dent the line. Slow and under sized outside backs. Its not a recipe for winning games regularly.

Journeyman, Ageing players on big contracts from losing clubs and some reserve graders. Thats what we came into 2018 with. I expected 8 wins and so far we have 7.

Mbye is the sort of player he need. Pacy, at 24 has upside to improve.

However How much improvement do Packer, Mats, Reynolds, Macqueen have in them?Be ok if they were on 1-2 year deals but some or all are on 4 ?! Is there much to look forward to with this side next year? Or will be like slow moving turtles trying hard early int he year but then hitting a massive brick wall?

When your rebuilding you want to get a bit better each year. I didn't expect much this year but I dont want to see us going backwards next year. I think there is a chance we could be a bottom feeder the next 2 years with an ageing side that lacks pace and power

I think we need to abandon signing any more players from losing clubs or ageing player, or from the recycle bin. We need speed, size, pace and youth. Easier said then done. But please no more 28 year old journeyman.

Cleary has had 12 months with little to no pressure however now he needs to start sorting this squad out for the future. Otherwise it might not be looking too rosy for us and him in the next 2 years.Cause as things stand currently I'm not sure what there is to get excited about in 2019 and 2020.
Titans are a "losing club " you wouldn't sign their entire forward pack .......
Happy Titans will turn things around once they offload Cartwright and some other dead wood.
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Post by TJL » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:12 pm

Spoon favourites in 2019 -20 methinks and won't be far off it this year. Total garbage and no pride whatsoever.

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Post by Demps » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:13 pm

the third wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 8:59 pm
jadtiger wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:36 pm
TIGER wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:29 pm
It all stars in the engine room and I'm sorry but Packer and Matulino aren't good enough.
If they're our props for the next few years we'll finish 10th to spoon every year.
Which is why Twal should start and one of packer/mats to bench.If we can pick up another prop even better so we can improve the rotation
Grant to go elsewhere
This. Twal to start
Who do u suggest brah?
The props off contract aren't very impressive.
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Post by gallagher » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:16 pm

Demps wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:13 pm
the third wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 8:59 pm
jadtiger wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:36 pm
TIGER wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:29 pm
It all stars in the engine room and I'm sorry but Packer and Matulino aren't good enough.
If they're our props for the next few years we'll finish 10th to spoon every year.
Which is why Twal should start and one of packer/mats to bench.If we can pick up another prop even better so we can improve the rotation
Grant to go elsewhere
This. Twal to start
Who do u suggest brah?
The props off contract aren't very impressive.
Woodsy may be available the way he's going.

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Post by Demps » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:17 pm

gallagher wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:16 pm
Demps wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:13 pm
the third wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 8:59 pm
jadtiger wrote:
Sun 01 Jul, 2018 6:36 pm


Which is why Twal should start and one of packer/mats to bench.If we can pick up another prop even better so we can improve the rotation
Grant to go elsewhere
This. Twal to start
Who do u suggest brah?
The props off contract aren't very impressive.
Woodsy may be available the way he's going.
I doubt it.
He'll turn up for the sharks.
They'll both appreciate that deal.

Also he is a clown and threw so much dirt on the tigers name. "it is what it is. It's just a job"
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Post by hsvjones » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 9:27 pm

I think we throw the book at Marty T as he would kill it with us now.

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