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Improved Attack

Post by stevied » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 9:53 pm

I don't know what other posters think but I noticed the Tigers showed greatly improved attack today. There was some slick passing, clever deception from the halves and dummy half and we seemed to make breaks with ease, especially in the first half. I was also impressed with our overall kicking game. Maybe a lot of this can be attributed to our fowards gettng over the advantage line. Matulino and Packer both played strongly, while, the often maligned Chee Kam and Sue were both outstanding with their late footwork and direct charges at the line.
There are definitely some very positive signs.


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Post by Geo. » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:04 pm

1st time all year we have had the same spine 4 weeks in a row..it's showing..the TRY Marshall and Brooks laid on for Chee-Kam was brilliant ..
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Post by 81Tiger » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:08 pm

I agree our attack looked at its best for the year for a lot of today. Can’t remember making so many clean line breaks inn a game this year. Could have easily piled on a few more meat pies - forward pass call, mats cut down at the ankles headed to the line, farah could have almost set Mbye up after his line break, and more

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Post by hobbo » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:10 pm

Geo. wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:04 pm
1st time all year we have had the same spine 4 weeks in a row..it's showing..the TRY Marshall and Brooks laid on for Chee-Kam was brilliant ..
Chee Kam had a little fumble as well.

But he held it :D
We need mongrel ..
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Post by Tarl » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:15 pm

Agreed. Looked sharp. But it sometimes seems to come at the cost of defence.

Seems like we either have a great defensive display OR a sharp attacking game.
Hoping next week we can have both!


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Post by TigersBusDriver » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:24 pm

Yes, we look very sharp in portions of the match. The problem is we dominate during periods of the match, and then (usually in the late stages of the game) sit back and allow the opposition to absolutely dominate us and make a comeback off the back of silly errors and penalties. It happens every game, and if we want to be a serious contender we need to play consistent, classy football during all stages of the game. We should not be 16-0 up after 16 minutes to only then win the game 22-20, it's rubbish.

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Post by Tiger Steve » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:36 pm

TigersBusDriver wrote:
Sun 12 Aug, 2018 10:24 pm
Yes, we look very sharp in portions of the match. The problem is we dominate during periods of the match, and then (usually in the late stages of the game) sit back and allow the opposition to absolutely dominate us and make a comeback off the back of silly errors and penalties. It happens every game, and if we want to be a serious contender we need to play consistent, classy football during all stages of the game. We should not be 16-0 up after 16 minutes to only then win the game 22-20, it's rubbish.
And it seems inherently part of our culture as WestsTigers - doesn’t seem to matter what squad we assemble, we constantly take games into the final 5 minutes.

But very proud of the club today. I think we stood up this week. We deserve finals this years......

............ and the broncos do not!!!!!!!
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Post by WT2K » Sun 12 Aug, 2018 11:02 pm

Consistency with the spine is what I put it down to. Geo has mentioned it also.
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Post by larrycorowa » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 6:06 am

New 9 & 1 have made all the difference.

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Post by TIGER » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 6:25 am

We played Canberra

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Post by greatodensraven » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 7:15 am

Some silky ball-playing yesterday:

Brooks putting MCK over
Eiso’s inside ball to Mbye
Mbye’s cut-out putting Nofo over

Beautiful stuff

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Post by jadtiger » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 7:16 am

TIGER wrote:
Mon 13 Aug, 2018 6:25 am
We played Canberra
Correct the team we usually cant score against and they beat us by 50.I would definately say that is an improvement and not just in attack

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Post by Russell » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 8:41 am

No excuses here but.....

If you go well at the start of the game and get the rub of the green - it variably means (this year), that the referees will try to even up the penalties in the later part of the second half.
This on top of unforced errors, the knit picking penalties (especially on your line or strategically placed leg ups to the opposition) means you are going to end up fighting for the two points at the death.

It also applies the opposite way - they get all the help in the first half and we get the catch ups at the end. Of course if they received too much help early - it means we don't quite make it.

Apart from our mistakes (which always hurt us badly), it is all grey areas that are the problem. Holding down too long, crowding in the play the ball, inside the ten on your line and opposition forward passes are just a few. You could give either side a penalty for these but we, most often do not get them. These, plus the bad calls e.g. 40/20 not called on the weekend - all contribute to changing momentum and quite often the result of the game.

These are not excuses but observations that you have all picked up. It is difficult to pile on points when these things are happening. Errors we can fix, missed tackles are harder when the other team are getting 3, 4 or 5 sets on your line just because of evening up. All you can do is make less errors, so completing your sets and then astute kicks to keep pressure on your opposition. Don't pass forward, no back chatting and no stripping penalties. (Not rocket science, not like nobody knows these things)

Then at least you give yourself the best chance of using your attack and winning the game.

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Post by TopTiger » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 10:33 am

Russell wrote:
Mon 13 Aug, 2018 8:41 am
No excuses here but.....

If you go well at the start of the game and get the rub of the green - it variably means (this year), that the referees will try to even up the penalties in the later part of the second half.
This on top of unforced errors, the knit picking penalties (especially on your line or strategically placed leg ups to the opposition) means you are going to end up fighting for the two points at the death.

It also applies the opposite way - they get all the help in the first half and we get the catch ups at the end. Of course if they received too much help early - it means we don't quite make it.

Apart from our mistakes (which always hurt us badly), it is all grey areas that are the problem. Holding down too long, crowding in the play the ball, inside the ten on your line and opposition forward passes are just a few. You could give either side a penalty for these but we, most often do not get them. These, plus the bad calls e.g. 40/20 not called on the weekend - all contribute to changing momentum and quite often the result of the game.

These are not excuses but observations that you have all picked up. It is difficult to pile on points when these things are happening. Errors we can fix, missed tackles are harder when the other team are getting 3, 4 or 5 sets on your line just because of evening up. All you can do is make less errors, so completing your sets and then astute kicks to keep pressure on your opposition. Don't pass forward, no back chatting and no stripping penalties. (Not rocket science, not like nobody knows these things)

Then at least you give yourself the best chance of using your attack and winning the game.
What he said X2!! After our dominant start there are momentum killers be it of our own making or dubious ref calls that make the game closer that it could have been. Would be nice to put a side to the sword so we can sit back and relax in the knowledge we have the game in the bag instead of waiting for the refs or ourselves to let the opposition back into the game.

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Post by Russell » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 10:40 am

TopTiger wrote:
Mon 13 Aug, 2018 10:33 am
Russell wrote:
Mon 13 Aug, 2018 8:41 am
No excuses here but.....

If you go well at the start of the game and get the rub of the green - it variably means (this year), that the referees will try to even up the penalties in the later part of the second half.
This on top of unforced errors, the knit picking penalties (especially on your line or strategically placed leg ups to the opposition) means you are going to end up fighting for the two points at the death.

It also applies the opposite way - they get all the help in the first half and we get the catch ups at the end. Of course if they received too much help early - it means we don't quite make it.

Apart from our mistakes (which always hurt us badly), it is all grey areas that are the problem. Holding down too long, crowding in the play the ball, inside the ten on your line and opposition forward passes are just a few. You could give either side a penalty for these but we, most often do not get them. These, plus the bad calls e.g. 40/20 not called on the weekend - all contribute to changing momentum and quite often the result of the game.

These are not excuses but observations that you have all picked up. It is difficult to pile on points when these things are happening. Errors we can fix, missed tackles are harder when the other team are getting 3, 4 or 5 sets on your line just because of evening up. All you can do is make less errors, so completing your sets and then astute kicks to keep pressure on your opposition. Don't pass forward, no back chatting and no stripping penalties. (Not rocket science, not like nobody knows these things)

Then at least you give yourself the best chance of using your attack and winning the game.
What he said X2!! After our dominant start there are momentum killers be it of our own making or dubious ref calls that make the game closer that it could have been. Would be nice to put a side to the sword so we can sit back and relax in the knowledge we have the game in the bag instead of waiting for the refs or ourselves to let the opposition back into the game.
Absolutely TT - not good for the old ticker! Lol

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