Junior Moors... BOOMMMMM!

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Re: Junior Moors... BOOMMMMM!

Post by southerntiger » Sun 06 Jun, 2010 6:24 pm

Opinions are like ...

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Post by Geo. » Sun 06 Jun, 2010 6:25 pm

:lol: Stats...

Statistically Bryce Gibbs is ranked above Petro in all areas bar total metres gained.....

Games aren't won on the stats sheet...

Benji for one misses Fulton...the right side attack has suffered since Fulton's injury....They tried Flanagan now it's Heighno...even Payto was out there for a time against the Dogs...

Benji plays better with Fulton in the team....look at the Stats....
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Post by ron burgandy » Sun 06 Jun, 2010 7:05 pm

Geo. wrote::lol: Stats...

Statistically Bryce Gibbs is ranked above Petro in all areas bar total metres gained.....

Games aren't won on the stats sheet...

Benji for one misses Fulton...the right side attack has suffered since Fulton's injury....They tried Flanagan now it's Heighno...even Payto was out there for a time against the Dogs...

Benji plays better with Fulton in the team....look at the Stats....
well geo stats are what they are, it provides unbiased views, people say fulton is the better defender well actually hes not, they say his work ethic is higher but it actually isnt, see opinions are debateable but statistics arent.

i did that more to kill chris argument about the POY votes and his statement of fulton being leaps and bounds ahead of flanagan, and also to prove how grossly either you have over-rated fulton or under-rated flanagan.

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Post by king sirro » Sun 06 Jun, 2010 7:44 pm

ron burgandy wrote:flanagans totals for the year
tackles - 279
tackles missed - 21
try assists - 2
line breaks - 3
runs - 79
tackle busts - 8
line break assists - 3
errors - 3
penalties conceded - 4
tries - 2
minutes played - 480

Fultons stats

Tackles -241
tackles missed - 21
runs - 64
linebreak assists - 1
line breaks - 2
tackle busts - 6
try assists- 1
minutes played - 456
tries - 3
penalties conceded - 4
errors - 4



seems to me we get more out of flanagans time on the field then fultons but hey chris lets just use who the fans think are producing on the field hey, by these stats it doesnt look like fulton is "leaps and bounds" ahead of flanagan as you put it

I dont see how those stats suggest we get more out of Flanno than Fulton.
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Post by ron burgandy » Sun 06 Jun, 2010 8:23 pm

lets see....

more hit ups
more line breaks
more line break assists
more tackles
less missed tackles
less errors
less penalties conceded
more tackle busts

you are right king sirro i dont see how we are getting more out of flanagan then fulton what was i thinking.......


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Post by softlaw » Sun 06 Jun, 2010 8:30 pm

ron burgandy wrote:well geo stats are what they are, it provides unbiased views, people say fulton is the better defender well actually hes not, they say his work ethic is higher but it actually isnt, see opinions are debateable but statistics arent.
ummm, 'better defender' and 'higher work ethic' are not statistics they are your interpretation of what statistics like 'number of tackles per game' etc. mean. No real point to that comment but anyway :)

Definitely agree that we need to see how Moors in particular goes against quality opposition but he's doing things right so far & thats all we can ask. And before Fulton was injured I think he was offering quite a lot more than Flanagan. Unfortunately the side can;t afford to carry both of them in any one game.
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Post by Geo. » Sun 06 Jun, 2010 8:43 pm

Ooops...stat alert...

I had to check...offical stats of the NRL http://203.166.101.37/NRL/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Flanagan 11 apperences
Fulton 7

Offloads Fulton 9 Flanagan 2
Line breaks 2 all
L break assists 3 -2 Fulton
Tackles Ave Fulton 37 Flanno 21.5
Tckl Breaks Fulton 14 Flanno 10
Ave metre made Fulton 59.4 Flanno 49.7
Points Fulton 12 Flanno 8

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Post by ron burgandy » Sun 06 Jun, 2010 9:51 pm

nrl's official stats are way off, ill continue to use mr middletons statistics

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Post by softlaw » Mon 07 Jun, 2010 8:49 am

I suppose it's not worth pointing out the slight inconsistency between the below two statements:
ron burgandy wrote:stats are what they are, it provides unbiased views, ... opinions are debateable but statistics arent.
ron burgandy wrote:nrl's official stats are way off, ill continue to use mr middletons statistics
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Post by southerntiger » Mon 07 Jun, 2010 11:52 am

I dont support Ron's view here but those statements are not inconsistent. He is saying that reliable stats are useful in determining a players value to a team. This is not inconsistent with his view that the NRL's stats on their website are unreliable.

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Post by Geo. » Mon 07 Jun, 2010 11:05 pm

Trust the Lawyer....

Seems we're in need of a tie breaker....Since I've often thought Ron lives in a Fantasy world lets let Fantasy NRL decide...

NRL.com
Fluts Ave,...43
Flanno.....25.09

Supercoach
Fults.....64.74
Flanno.....39.82

Foxsports
Fults....34.28
Flanno....23.18...

Clearly Fulton offers more than Flanno....
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Sorry FT , you know I'm not the brightest match in the pile

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Post by Spartan117 » Tue 08 Jun, 2010 7:37 am

Off Topic Guys ...
UTT - Up The Tigers

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Post by ron burgandy » Tue 08 Jun, 2010 9:02 am

Geo. wrote:Trust the Lawyer....

Seems we're in need of a tie breaker....Since I've often thought Ron lives in a Fantasy world lets let Fantasy NRL decide...

NRL.com
Fluts Ave,...43
Flanno.....25.09

Supercoach
Fults.....64.74
Flanno.....39.82

Foxsports
Fults....34.28
Flanno....23.18...

Clearly Fulton offers more than Flanno....
fox sports fantasy says otherwise.....

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Post by innsaneink » Tue 08 Jun, 2010 8:58 pm

Is there a link to Middletons stats?

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Post by Geo. » Tue 08 Jun, 2010 9:21 pm

I couldn't find 1

Needed to check my maths but...

Foxsports
Fulton 240/7 = 34.28
Flanno 255/11 = 23.18....

Oh....Moors...BOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!
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