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https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if 😂 Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

😂 What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster …our roster sucks big time …Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn’t looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years …we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances …

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

Or maybe they aren’t good enough to do it. Who on this forum really knows what is happening - no-one?You drawing conclusions to suit your perception of Madge without knowing didly squat apart from we are losing games.

My conclusions are educated guesses based upon experience and 3 years of data. Your conclusions are based upon feelings. Too bad, so sad “Mike”. 🤣

About the only reality in that post is guesses.

Your point being? The facts support my stance.

You have no facts apart from we are losing more games than we win. All they indicate is we are losing. They don’t show why.
Should you have other facts/ stats - pray do tell.

Your over simplistic interpretation is pretty embarrassing.
The reason we don’t win many games is because we lose a lot….brilliant. You could get a position on our board.

Zzzzzzz. You Nobel Prize winner you.

Cut the crap thanks. @animal-mother - I’d advise against making the antagonistic posts you’ve made since joining thanks.

Done. Sorry to have taken the bait.

I just listened to the podcast. Everything Adrian said was consistent with his posts made over the last couple of years. It’s not like he suddenly woke up and thought now is a good time to kick Pascoe and Co in the balls or he was craving some attention. He’s obviously frustrated as most of us are that we have the wrong people in the key roles.
Good on him for speaking openly on the record which many posters on here wouldn’t.

@happy_tiger said in What has happened to the WFH?:

@needaname said in What has happened to the WFH?:

What had happened to this place?

This use to be a peaceful social forum full of insight and interesting debates.

If you listened closely you could pick up the occasional insider tip.

Now it is overrun by either Trolls or Big-shot know it all’s.

We are all fans of this great club.
We do love the club and in most cases are mystified by the moves currently made by management, coaches and players, most agree that change is necessary and the debate brings out all facets of the topic.

But please play the ball not the man.

A lot of people who have supplied inside info get screamed down for getting some player / fact wrong occasionally …

Who are the big shot know it alls and Trolls …if you don’t agree with someone’s actions …put them on foe

It’s hard …none of us want to be negative …And I’m as bad as the next …but I’m sick of this club and how they drive us further and further into the swamp …I will love this club until they die or I die …but I have more and more days where I honestly wish they just kicked us out …because I can’t see anything ever improving …does anyone see us winning a premiership in the next 20 years …I’ll be amazed if we make the 8 three times in the next 20 years

But this is also a problem …many don’t want to see our club like this and even point blank refuse to see the problems we have …

Thw whole current coaching situation for example …many blame the coaches …

Many of you are in lockdown so you may have some spare time …

So do this for me if you wish and you will get a lot of the answers to your WT’s questions

Put every club’s top 17 on paper …and then HONESTLY place WT’s players ranked in position against everyone else …

Done it a few times …once even on here a few seasons ago …we finished 14th from memory when I did it

The ROSTER is the problem …as Ripley used to say "Believe it or Not "

We aren’t a Top 8 roster and we aren’t even close …and we can’t attract anyone …where we go from here …only God knows …

How does one add people to foe? Is that simply ‘block user’? I thought there used to be more options but perhaps in recent updates this functionality has changed

@mike said in Wests Tigers Podcast - Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie.:

@avocadoontoast said in Wests Tigers Podcast - Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie.:

@mike said in Wests Tigers Podcast - Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie.:

First half of the podcast very good, second part not so much.

We need stability and that means sticking with the coach.

It’s funny how the senior players, brought in before Madge, are the ones that have an issue but the newcomers don’t. That tells you heaps, especially when it’s those senior players that are the under performers and under achievers and have been for many years.

How would those newcomers react it Madge was to be replaced now? Do you think that they would clash with a new Coach? I do, and so the cycle would repeat and no advancement would be made, and Wests Tigers would be back to the beginning once again.

Those juniors are our future and they need someone like Madge to show them what is needed to be successful. They don’t need another another rookie coach who doesn’t know and they don’t need a coach who can only win through chemical enhancements.

By all means surround Madge with good tacticians as assistant coaches but for the sake of the clubs future Madge must stay.

Just because it doesn’t agree with your view doesn’t make it a bad pod Mike. I don’t agree with everything on this pod or any other pod but it’s still interesting to hear different points of view.

Didn’t say it was a bad pod.

No but you said the “first part very good, but the second part not so much” simply because it didn’t share your opinions. You took a similar position the week before.

Do you mean John Morris?

@happy_tiger said in 2021 Reflections:

@demps said in 2021 Reflections:

Congrats to @Geo
First user to ever hit 20k up votes…

Surely @happy_tiger is not far behind…

In the negatives bro …too many haters lol

Here’s 1 upvote to get you closer, haha…

You’re in the circle brah.

@thedaboss said in Assistant Coaches:

Billy slater anyone?

Nope.

@tiger5150 said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

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Drawing out the review tells me that we are in talks with ciraldo and trying to get an understanding if he would take the job. It could also be madge blowing up royally about his assistant coaches being removed and having sheens on top of him. If that’s the case they could be negotiating a pay out in the background.

I think it’s madge not happy.

Could be a good solution for all parties. Madge tells the media he is not going to coach having Sheens on top of him, so he quits. In the background on the quite a settlement is reached. Madge is not sacked, so his reputation is not tarnished and we get a new coach

I don’t care how we get to having a new coach, as long as we get there in the next month

I think we need it sorted in two weeks max. Contracted players will be getting released and coming onto the market soon as clubs re gig their rosters for 2022 and we need to have a coach bedded down to have any chance in the market place

I do agree with that, I just don’t want the club to wet their pants and keep Madge on because they couldn’t wait 2 or 3 weeks to get who they wanted or needed

the other side of that coin is punting Madge without a suitable and superior replacement. What could go wrong?

Miss the 8 again?

@animal-mother said in The WT Identity:

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@tigertownsfs said in The WT Identity:

On Westslife podcast they were saying direct from Chairman Lees mouth that there tigers will be at either Liverpool or Campbelltown. Club preference was Campbelltown but government was more interested in Liverpool as a shared ground with the bulldogs. Personally if those were the two options I’d just move to Campbelltown now for all but a couple of games and lobby the state and local government for an upgrade of Campbelltown. I don’t want to share a ground with the Dogs

Sharing with dogs same as sharing with parra.

How can it be the same unless it was on the belmore site?

Think dogs will have a bigger presence there think after all these years we need a place we can call our own.

Why would the dogs have a bigger presence?

More fans

I don’t think the Dogs have more fans than us.

I wouldn’t be too quick to state that.

I can state that as its a guess, I didn’t say I was right lol

@hank37w said in Joe Ofahengaue:

Wait until Sheens gets here, He’ll be on an edge, probably the wing.

Could be worse with JT putting him in the centres.

@harvey said in Simpkin:

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@blocker1963 said in Simpkin:

SIMPKIN is definitely a keeper, Harry was still playing Q Cup at 21, a lot of developing left, going to be a gun.

As I said in my first post, he’s so far behind where Farah was at the same age.

How about Liddle?
What was he doing at that age ?

Similar to what Simpkin is doing, recovering from a shoulder reconstruction after playing little first grade.

He did have more regular football in the lower grades though

He and Brandon Smith were probably on equal terms at NYC level …that has changed big time though

@cochise said in New homeground:

@tiger-woods said in New homeground:

@cochise said in New homeground:

@tiger-woods said in New homeground:

Can we plz not play at bankwest in 2022
We’re supposed to play 4 more games there next year & we don’t have a good record there
It’s supposed to be a world class stadium but personally it looks ugly & is overrated
Let’s move the 4 games up the road to Homebush we have a better record there otherwise we could lose 8 points if we play at bankwest
The Easter games v parra are good but plz not at bankwest

I prefer Bankwest.

Bankwest is too steep for me even when I’m sober, the colour theme is disgusting & the surface is very slippery 😂

Yeah, I sit in the lower bowel at Pawwa

Fixed up the spelling for you

@twentyforty said in Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers:

@tiger-woods said in Who Should Coach the Wests Tigers:

🤔
Tim Sheens - coaching director
Ciraldo - coach
Madge - assistant coach or vice versa
trifecta ?

I know Ciraldo is an international coach, having coached Italy, but he’s only 37. Why would he rather come to the Wild Wests instead of returning to the Sharks?

True but the sharks don’t have a centre of excellence & we do 😂

Also, I’d take Woodsy back. I feel like he regretted his decision as soon as he’d made it. His last season for us was immense.

Based On Proposed Signings
Laurie
Nofoaluma
Gildart
Scott
Maumalo
Douiehi
Hastings ©
Elliott
Blore
Sims
Stefano
Brooks
Woods
Bench
Liddle
Leilua
Mikaele
Musgrove

@happy_tiger said in Wests Tigers Centre of Excellence:

@demps said in Wests Tigers Centre of Excellence:

Farah is the only one worthy.

@happy_tiger @Spartan117

Robbie left as well …but he is more worthy of a mention than Benji

Farah didn’t want to leave !

@tiger5150 said in Tamou:

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Wests Tigers captain James Tamou has defended Michael Maguire by declaring he and the rest of the playing group want the under-fire coach back next season.

The pressure on Maguire has reached fever pitch, and the odds of the former Rabbitohs premiership coach getting sacked are shortening by the day after the Tigers finished this season 13th on the NRL ladder with just eight wins.

While plenty of criticism has been directed at the club about its roster moves made before Maguire joined the Tigers back in 2019, it remains to be seen what will happen to the coach as the Tigers undertake their much-anticipated season review.

Despite the reports, Tamou claims that Maguire “100 per cent” has the support of the playing group.

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“I haven’t seen anything like it. Every word he says, everyone still hangs on the balance,” Tamou told Nine News.

"I was talking to the players before we left - we all said the same thing about Madge.

"I haven’t had too much to do with the board, but they know where we are at.

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“I don’t think it is [time to change coaches]. I don’t think so at all.”

Since joining the Tigers in 2019, Maguire has notched 26 wins and 42 losses, making for a 38 per cent win percentage. To make the situation more desperate, the Tigers haven’t played finals football since 2011.

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Tamou said it was vital the club sticks together through this rough time.

“It will be tough,” he said when asked about the potential of losing Maguire.

"It will be like losing a friend. I don’t see the sense.

"You need these things, it takes time. You need the cohesion… Madge has laid a foundation.

"I don’t want another season like this season and I know no-one else in that club does.

“It hurts, we’re all hurting. I’ve messaged some boys telling them to come back in pretty good shape because we’re hitting the ground running.”

Asked whether under-fire playmaker Luke Brooks should be part of the club going forward, Tahmou replied: “Absolutely, I trust Brooksie.”

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Earlier today, former Wests Tigers star Josh Reynolds suggested Maguire has struggled to form a game plan that suits his side’s strengths.

“I don’t think sometimes the way he wants to play suits the Tigers team,” Reynolds said.

"I had this conversation with one of the boys over here today about Madge when he was with the Wigan side.

“He said, when you had (Sam) Tomkins out the back of the play, that the Tigers are playing - he was unstoppable when they won the competition [in 2010]. It obviously suited that Wigan side, but I don’t think it suits the Tigers.”

James T seems like a good man but there is definitely a disconnect somewhere even if he is remaining on the fence.

Seems weird to me that he says “It will be tough” and “It will be like losing a friend” and not “it would be tough”.

HIs language implies it will happen.

Tamou seconded by Pascoe and Hartigan to assist with the revue due to his leadership qualities and as a result knows the outcome. Sorry Madge, one of us had to go.

@twentyforty said in Michael Maguire should be our new coach:

Does anyone think this review is all about gathering enough evidence to sack Maguire?
That’s what the msm is running.

It’s about a board with a lack of Rugby League nous believing fairytales from leadership they have assembled a strong squad and should have done better. They want answers and happens every year at every club. We just have loud mouths covering their back sides constantly putting everything in the media.

Given Sheens is reported to be heavily involved I think some home truths will come out and it won’t be the coach that’s the biggest issue.

@davey_farrell said in Joel Caine gives his opinion:

i actually think he had a lot of valid points and i find it hard to disagree with him on everything he says.

The longer we deny that he’s right the longer it takes us to come good, if we ever do.