Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Obviously Slothfield is priming for when the Sharks lose Nikora or Pele - we have x amount in y players thats how the Tigers can do it.

Despite the fact we have been doing excellent cap management over the last 2-3yrs to position ourselves to make a splash over the next 2-3yrs in a big way whilst being in a great position to rival others offers for the very good young talent coming through
 

Now this is Shock News that nobody going to do anything about​

Fox Sports Report​

NRL club bosses’ shock claim on teams rorting the salary cap​

Seventy per cent of NRL club bosses believe rival teams use illegal third-party deals to flaunt the competition’s salary cap system.

According to a Sydney Morning Herald survey of 23 chief executives and chairmen who responded, there was a general consensus illegal third-party agreements were being used by clubs to gain an advantage.

“The NRL have done a good job cleaning up a lot of the confusion and irregularities around third-party agreements,” an anonymous boss told the Sydney Morning Herald.

But many clubs believe that there are still instances where a club will operate outside the TPA rules to secure income for a player. That sort of assistance can make a big difference in signing or keeping a player.”

Since 2017, the third-party agreement market reduced from $8.2 million to $4.2 million in 2021.

The dealings are still perceived as a problem within NRL clubs, even after the organisation cracked down on third-party deals following the Eels salary cap scandal in 2016.

Arm-length” agreements also significantly reduced from $4.6 million in 2017 to $1.5 million in 2021, with players making less appearances in the last few years due to Covid-19.

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“Equalising the competition to ensure that salary cap rorting does not impact results is critical,” another anonymous boss said.

“Clubs should compete on a level playing field.”

In 2018, the Storm had the most private sector “arm-length” agreements of any team, with more than $1 million of third-party agreements for the big three of Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith.

The reduction in these agreements could be due to the retirement of a number of the NRL’s stars as well as a competition wide crackdown.


In 2019 the Roosters recorded only $69,000 in third-party agreements but stars such as Cronk and James Tedesco benefited from whole game sponsorships not included in the team-by-team breakdown.

Again the Storm led the competition in 2019 for third-party agreements with the Broncos ($350,000), Panthers ($233,000), Sharks ($212,000) and Rabbitohs ($199,000) not far behind.

“We have increased surveillance and education in this area,” Abdo said to the Herald.

“The NRL salary cap and integrity team will always take action if any potential breaches are reported or detected.”

“We complete regular audits. Clubs, players and agents are aware and educated about our rules. If the rules are breached we will take strong action as we have done in the past.”
 
momo_amp_medo said:

Now this is Shock News that nobody going to do anything about​

Fox Sports Report​

NRL club bosses’ shock claim on teams rorting the salary cap​

Seventy per cent of NRL club bosses believe rival teams use illegal third-party deals to flaunt the competition’s salary cap system.

According to a Sydney Morning Herald survey of 23 chief executives and chairmen who responded, there was a general consensus illegal third-party agreements were being used by clubs to gain an advantage.

“The NRL have done a good job cleaning up a lot of the confusion and irregularities around third-party agreements,” an anonymous boss told the Sydney Morning Herald.

But many clubs believe that there are still instances where a club will operate outside the TPA rules to secure income for a player. That sort of assistance can make a big difference in signing or keeping a player.”

Since 2017, the third-party agreement market reduced from $8.2 million to $4.2 million in 2021.

The dealings are still perceived as a problem within NRL clubs, even after the organisation cracked down on third-party deals following the Eels salary cap scandal in 2016.

Arm-length” agreements also significantly reduced from $4.6 million in 2017 to $1.5 million in 2021, with players making less appearances in the last few years due to Covid-19.

Australia


“Equalising the competition to ensure that salary cap rorting does not impact results is critical,” another anonymous boss said.

“Clubs should compete on a level playing field.”

In 2018, the Storm had the most private sector “arm-length” agreements of any team, with more than $1 million of third-party agreements for the big three of Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith.

The reduction in these agreements could be due to the retirement of a number of the NRL’s stars as well as a competition wide crackdown.


In 2019 the Roosters recorded only $69,000 in third-party agreements but stars such as Cronk and James Tedesco benefited from whole game sponsorships not included in the team-by-team breakdown.

Again the Storm led the competition in 2019 for third-party agreements with the Broncos ($350,000), Panthers ($233,000), Sharks ($212,000) and Rabbitohs ($199,000) not far behind.

“We have increased surveillance and education in this area,” Abdo said to the Herald.

“The NRL salary cap and integrity team will always take action if any potential breaches are reported or detected.”

“We complete regular audits. Clubs, players and agents are aware and educated about our rules. If the rules are breached we will take strong action as we have done in the past.”
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I have stated in the past that the NRL "salary cap team" could not track a bleeding elephant over a fresh snowfield.The NRL seems to turn a blind eye to the powerfull (favoured) clubs cheating,no prizes for guessing who they are
 
gregjm87 said:
I've heard Brooks was on a heavily backended contract that was 670 a season. So the 900k could well be true this year but not a true reflection of his contract. But, really, who would know.
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I doubt we would have back ended his contract when we have been struggling to spend the full cap after releasing guys like Mbye and Reynolds.
 
hsvjones said:
I seriously question his well being as he is publishing so many things that as just not even close now. Are his articles even getting proof read ?? I can understand Tamau on 700k but for 2 years not 1.
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Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me if Buzz is just misrepresenting the figures to fit his narrative. There is no way Tamou is on 700k and I think you’re completely right that it’s likely to be 700k across a two year contract. I think it’s a case of Buzz being intentionally misleading to stir up drama against the club and for click bait purposes.
 
TigerJunior4 said:
Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me if Buzz is just misrepresenting the figures to fit his narrative. There is no way Tamou is on 700k and I think you’re completely right that it’s likely to be 700k across a two year contract. I think it’s a case of Buzz being intentionally misleading to stir up drama against the club and for click bait purposes.
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He is on $700k for 2 years.
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
remember he didn't have many offers at the time either I thought it was 550k then maybe 650k final year or something like that
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This is my assessment of Brooks salary now. It's not that bad. I still think Brooks is under pressure because Hastings and Doueihi are here and they want the halves roles plus they can play.
 
something from Wests Tiger FB page……
”
Regarding the post below about some rumbling in the club.
Scott Woodward handed in his own resignation last week to the Tigers. He came from the Storm system, and has been with us since 2019. He has instrumentally played hardball in turning recruitment policy around and not allowing to pay overs for players in desperate times. It has taken him 3 years to turn our cap into a positive, he has been a miracle maker.
He put forward from the beginning of his tenure, that his data analytics of each player in the NRL, NSW Cup, JFlegg, SG Ball, H Matt’s is what you recruit from, and the worth every player is, is based on their data. He has been holding the club accountable over the years to not go against this. The moneyball approach I call it. When the club has been desperate to recruit, Scott will at times say no, as it doesn’t match up to his mathematical data analytics. He has taken the hard approach and has won us great things in the background (salary cap fixed for one)

He spends 80 hours a week watching every game for all clubs as above, and produces data- that’s massive!!!!

At a few games, he has called the game to me. With his knowledge of analysis, he would tell me that through data, a try should happen within the next 4 minutes because of what happened previously. Unbelievable!! He was correct.

He was not pushed out of the club. It was his choice to move on.

He is a great friend of mine and we see each other weekly. He will be sorely missed at the club, he is a very clever cookie.
Also
Here is the talent that he Identified personally that came to the club.
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jadtiger said:
I have stated in the past that the NRL "salary cap team" could not track a bleeding elephant over a fresh snowfield.The NRL seems to turn a blind eye to the powerfull (favoured) clubs cheating,no prizes for guessing who they are
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The bottom line the NRL is basically ran by a few very influential people who are untouchable. Okay a certain team might be pinged with a minor cap breach every now and than to send a message that the system is working, but they stay clear of the big stuff.

The player market is controlled by player agents and a few Clubs..the salary cap only effects the battlers
 
Tigerwould said:
something from Wests Tiger FB page……
”
Regarding the post below about some rumbling in the club.
Scott Woodward handed in his own resignation last week to the Tigers. He came from the Storm system, and has been with us since 2019. He has instrumentally played hardball in turning recruitment policy around and not allowing to pay overs for players in desperate times. It has taken him 3 years to turn our cap into a positive, he has been a miracle maker.
He put forward from the beginning of his tenure, that his data analytics of each player in the NRL, NSW Cup, JFlegg, SG Ball, H Matt’s is what you recruit from, and the worth every player is, is based on their data. He has been holding the club accountable over the years to not go against this. The moneyball approach I call it. When the club has been desperate to recruit, Scott will at times say no, as it doesn’t match up to his mathematical data analytics. He has taken the hard approach and has won us great things in the background (salary cap fixed for one)

He spends 80 hours a week watching every game for all clubs as above, and produces data- that’s massive!!!!

At a few games, he has called the game to me. With his knowledge of analysis, he would tell me that through data, a try should happen within the next 4 minutes because of what happened previously. Unbelievable!! He was correct.

He was not pushed out of the club. It was his choice to move on.

He is a great friend of mine and we see each other weekly. He will be sorely missed at the club, he is a very clever cookie.
Also
Here is the talent that he Identified personally that came to the club.
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there's every chance Woodward believes his work is done and it's time to move on. cap in good shape, lower grades in a great position and Sheens at the helm. there's every chance his player identification system is still being utilised at the club even though he's not here, fairly sure that's the case with Melbourne.
 
jrtiger said:
there's every chance Woodward believes his work is done and it's time to move on. cap in good shape, lower grades in a great position and Sheens at the helm. there's every chance his player identification system is still being utilised at the club even though he's not here, fairly sure that's the case with Melbourne.
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Lower down on one of those threads, he actually responded to confirm he left on good terms - if he didn't agree with what was posted he would have corrected it.
 
momo_amp_medo said:

Now this is Shock News that nobody going to do anything about​

Fox Sports Report​

NRL club bosses’ shock claim on teams rorting the salary cap​

Seventy per cent of NRL club bosses believe rival teams use illegal third-party deals to flaunt the competition’s salary cap system.

According to a Sydney Morning Herald survey of 23 chief executives and chairmen who responded, there was a general consensus illegal third-party agreements were being used by clubs to gain an advantage.

“The NRL have done a good job cleaning up a lot of the confusion and irregularities around third-party agreements,” an anonymous boss told the Sydney Morning Herald.

But many clubs believe that there are still instances where a club will operate outside the TPA rules to secure income for a player. That sort of assistance can make a big difference in signing or keeping a player.”

Since 2017, the third-party agreement market reduced from $8.2 million to $4.2 million in 2021.

The dealings are still perceived as a problem within NRL clubs, even after the organisation cracked down on third-party deals following the Eels salary cap scandal in 2016.

Arm-length” agreements also significantly reduced from $4.6 million in 2017 to $1.5 million in 2021, with players making less appearances in the last few years due to Covid-19.

Australia


“Equalising the competition to ensure that salary cap rorting does not impact results is critical,” another anonymous boss said.

“Clubs should compete on a level playing field.”

In 2018, the Storm had the most private sector “arm-length” agreements of any team, with more than $1 million of third-party agreements for the big three of Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith.

The reduction in these agreements could be due to the retirement of a number of the NRL’s stars as well as a competition wide crackdown.


In 2019 the Roosters recorded only $69,000 in third-party agreements but stars such as Cronk and James Tedesco benefited from whole game sponsorships not included in the team-by-team breakdown.

Again the Storm led the competition in 2019 for third-party agreements with the Broncos ($350,000), Panthers ($233,000), Sharks ($212,000) and Rabbitohs ($199,000) not far behind.

“We have increased surveillance and education in this area,” Abdo said to the Herald.

“The NRL salary cap and integrity team will always take action if any potential breaches are reported or detected.”

“We complete regular audits. Clubs, players and agents are aware and educated about our rules. If the rules are breached we will take strong action as we have done in the past.”
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Thou
Tigerwould said:
something from Wests Tiger FB page……
”
Regarding the post below about some rumbling in the club.
Scott Woodward handed in his own resignation last week to the Tigers. He came from the Storm system, and has been with us since 2019. He has instrumentally played hardball in turning recruitment policy around and not allowing to pay overs for players in desperate times. It has taken him 3 years to turn our cap into a positive, he has been a miracle maker.
He put forward from the beginning of his tenure, that his data analytics of each player in the NRL, NSW Cup, JFlegg, SG Ball, H Matt’s is what you recruit from, and the worth every player is, is based on their data. He has been holding the club accountable over the years to not go against this. The moneyball approach I call it. When the club has been desperate to recruit, Scott will at times say no, as it doesn’t match up to his mathematical data analytics. He has taken the hard approach and has won us great things in the background (salary cap fixed for one)

He spends 80 hours a week watching every game for all clubs as above, and produces data- that’s massive!!!!

At a few games, he has called the game to me. With his knowledge of analysis, he would tell me that through data, a try should happen within the next 4 minutes because of what happened previously. Unbelievable!! He was correct.

He was not pushed out of the club. It was his choice to move on.

He is a great friend of mine and we see each other weekly. He will be sorely missed at the club, he is a very clever cookie.
Also
Here is the talent that he Identified personally that came to the club.
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Tomato tomarto
 
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