Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

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pawsandclaws1 said:
Cousins of my sons on their late mothers' side were not eating meat at a large family function we hosted. The family is right at the cutting edge of this church. There was plenty of food to share and when I offered meat, these poor children (both female) said only daddy eats meat because he has god's work to carry out.
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Wow, Jesus Christ!
I'm certain that if Jesus was here now and heard what they are saying about him,
he would just say, these people are not my followers.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
Cousins of my sons on their late mothers' side were not eating meat at a large family function we hosted. The family is right at the cutting edge of this church. There was plenty of food to share and when I offered meat, these poor children (both female) said only daddy eats meat because he has god's work to carry out.
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I would have said, this is my house and I am the god of my domain. Grab a steak, kids.
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
It would appear that way simply on that tidbit you shared.
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Their father allowed these girls to watch a Vietnam War movie. A helicopter gunner was wounded in the arm and fell back into the floor of the machine crying out "oh god". These two girls got up off the lounge looking up towards the ceiling and started shouting "god, god, where's god?". It wasn't our home but my wife said to the father "what are you teaching these girls?".
 
stryker 69 said:
All the honest people handed them in.
Don’t be fooled though, there are tonnes of weapons still getting about.
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I’m not naive.

Let me put it this way. None of my family or close friends own a firearm. I doubt I’d be able say that if I lived in the US.

Additionally, most doctors and nurses in Australia have never seen a firearm wound. Whereas most doctors and nurses in the US have and some have seen several.
 
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Cultured_Bogan said:
America is not left/right on guns. It is more urban/rural on guns. Plenty of democrats still support 2nd amendment rights.
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There is an interesting statistics: the number of homicides committed with guns is the lowest in the states where the gun licence/purchase is nearly without any limitation, and the opposite is true, the number of homicides is the highest where the state gun laws are the most prohibitive.
Also, in Europe, the countries with very liberal laws re gun license/purchase e.g. Switzerland, Czech Republic, the number of crimes committed with the guns is lower than in the countries with very prohibitive laws.
Homicides are mostly committed by criminals, and, sadly, no law will affect their access to guns and they will not apply for the legal license, while the laws will be very discriminative to shooters, and farmers who obtained the license legally.
IMHO, the solution is to further limit the access to the illegal weapons, and better control who can get the license.
 
Minneapolis officers prosecuted, local reforms adopted in some states, but national overhaul of policing falls short. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022...ars-on-some-accountability-but-killings-go-on

In the U.S. over 3 billion has been paid out to families for wrongful deaths by law enforcement officers over the last 10 years.

Last year over 1100 people got killed by law enforcement officers.

So even without guns in the community their serms to be scant regard for people generally even by law enforcement so this is a society issue over there.

Disgusting.
 
twentyforty said:
It’s clear that we only remember what fits our narrative. Personally I thought the Hawke / Keating government was one of the highest taxing in Australia’s history. The Superannuation tax they imposed was a killer, 15% going in, 15% on earnings and another 15% on withdrawal. These were new taxes.
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I don't know if the rules have changed but the rules on Super are fairly complex.

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I think that if you are only pulling out a smaller amount which is actually a lot and you are over 60 tax shouldn't be a big issue.

I'm interested in this because I intend to pay no tax on my Super.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Minneapolis officers prosecuted, local reforms adopted in some states, but national overhaul of policing falls short. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022...ars-on-some-accountability-but-killings-go-on

In the U.S. over 3 billion has been paid out to families for wrongful deaths by law enforcement officers over the last 10 years.

Last year over 1100 people got killed by law enforcement officers.

So even without guns in the community their serms to be scant regard for people generally even by law enforcement so this is a society issue over there.

Disgusting.
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The cops are somewhat militarised. That's ingrained in their training.

Thankful we live in a country where police as a general rule of thumb are equipped to assess before they reach for for 9mm.
 
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stryker 69 said:
You will never, ever, ever get them to give them up.
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That is no doubt true of some people over there, but they'll eventually die. Guns are deeply ingrained in their culture and it's going to take generations to arrive at a sensible position on them, but the sooner they start the sooner they'll get there. Beat the NRA a couple of times and it will be apparent that no side needs to kowtow to them to the extent that has been done in the past. They need to seize these kinds of moments though (which they have failed to do in the past...)
 
Earl said:
I don't know if the rules have changed but the rules on Super are fairly complex.

ATO website currently unavailable

www.ato.gov.au www.ato.gov.au

I think that if you are only pulling out a smaller amount which is actually a lot and you are over 60 tax shouldn't be a big issue.

I'm interested in this because I intend to pay no tax on my Super.
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Earl, there are superannuation reforms every time the government changes, I suggest you see a planner mate.
 
Nelson said:
Yeah but our cops don't have to operate on the basis that every other person has a gun...
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Growing up I remember police were only supposed to draw firearms if the assailant had or they believed posessed a firearm. That was in an era of many armed hold ups etc.

Women police didn't carry arms.

Police were generally older and more experienced.

For a while now they seem to draw weapons real easy. Even remember a game at Belmore on a Monday night in the late 90s when a police officer while having been attacked on the hill by a mob without weapons decided to draw and fire into the crowd, could have hit anyone.

It's a sign of lower competence.
 
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Cultured_Bogan said:
The cops are somewhat militarised. That's ingrained in their training.

Thankful we live in a country where police as a general rule of thumb are equipped to assess before they reach for for 9mm.
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Cops in NSW anyway are trying so hard to contain the violence we are seeing but fighting an uphill battle like America with left wing judges letting them straight back out
 
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