balmain boy
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Seyfarth turned them down because he wants to stay in Sydney with his family.
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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teddy23
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I'm sure his mindset was more to stay here and try earn a extension instead of leaving, however if there's no other NRL option and we make it clear he won't be re-signed then it's either 350-400k a year playing in NZ for a few years or being out of the league.
I think he might re-think his choices - especially with a young child to consider
Food for thought at the very least
The good news is if Sheens gets a thought lodged inside his head he will work at it for years (look at Johnnie Cronk) for example,the bad news is that he does not always get the right person for that job (refer back to the other Johnnie Cronk comment)
liltiger
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Prob waiting till round 20 before making an evaluation.
But in all seriousness I truly believe that Brooks in the team week in and week out must be due to pressure from above, reckon he must have a mate or something in the boardroom. It's not just a Sheens thing, it was Taylor, Maguire now Sheens. Reckon there might be pressure from above to include him in the team, it's the only logical thing I can think of.
851
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His point about the Marshall Moltzen halves combo is true, no sane coach would have split that up, but that's not how Sheens rolls, as we are finding out all over again
I have been saying for ages that i think Luke has mates on the board who make sure he gets selected each week
Buttface
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Logical?
Making football decisions that are detrimental to the team winning football games is illogical.
Yes he won’t improve here unfortunately. Api was the best hooker in the NRL last season and Papalii was close to being the best backrower - both are struggling in this current outfit, so no surprise a young player like Laurie would struggle also.
BlackWhiteGold
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Unless something significantly shifts in performance soon, the best thing for our club moving forward is to move on those players who have consistently exhibited poor attitudes & have been part of our losing culture over an extended period.
Luke Brooks, Daine Laurie, Tuki Simpkins & Tommy Talau - not re-signed.
Adam Doeuihi, David Nofoaluma & Alex Twal - provide them opportunity to sign elsewhere in '24.
Wakeham, Lomi Saukuru, Staines & Seyfarth are all off contract too however Wakeham, Staines & Seyfarth could push for 1-2 year deals based on their performance this season.
Then promote or bring in 7-10 players who exhibit leadership qualities, footy IQ, positive attitudes along with the right physical attributes & footy skill for their positions.
Luke Brooks, Daine Laurie, Tuki Simpkins & Tommy Talau - not re-signed.
Adam Doeuihi, David Nofoaluma & Alex Twal - provide them opportunity to sign elsewhere in '24.
Wakeham, Lomi Saukuru, Staines & Seyfarth are all off contract too however Wakeham, Staines & Seyfarth could push for 1-2 year deals based on their performance this season.
Then promote or bring in 7-10 players who exhibit leadership qualities, footy IQ, positive attitudes along with the right physical attributes & footy skill for their positions.
BlackWhiteGold
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Further to this we are obligated to promote Josh Feledy (centre) and I'd also promote Jahream Bula (fullback/wing), Aitasi James (prop) if he continues his form in Cup, and try to sign an A-grade spine player - George Williams or RTS or Jack Welsby and look to the likes of 3 or 4 of Blake Taafe, Kaeo Weekes, Luke Metcalf, Connor Tracey, Brad Parker, JWH for 1 season, Josh Curran, Kayal Iro, Raymond Vaega etc to help transform our squad.
weststigerman
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I agree with your point. I don't know how many players have to come here and flop for people to realise maybe it's not just the player's fault.
Pascoes_barber
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Nudes, I’m telling ya.
jrtiger
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love your thinking and he’s uber talented but I doubt they give away either Metcalf or Volkman. that’s their halves pairing for the next decade once SJ hangs them up. only thing up our sleeve is the fact that Metcalf might get homesick but again he’ll be very hard to prise away.
Indeed!
jrtiger
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the fact that we neglected our pathways between Moses and Conti/Isdale has resulted in these issues. now that there’s renewed focus on our pathways that won’t be happening as much. Brooks was well developed but various factors have destroyed him. Jock Madden did a great apprenticeship while he was here and will become a 100 gamer. Lachlan Ilias was in our system for sometime before getting injured and discarded.
I make no excuses for the fact that we got rid of Madden and Ilias, but we have been responsible for their development in some form. both will have lengthy first grade careers. let’s hope Alex Conti is the true heir to Scott Prince’s throne.
liltiger
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Yes I know but my point being there might be someone at board level forcing the coaches hand. He might be a favourite player of theirs or something, I'm just saying it is the only logical conclusion I can come up with as to why Brooks has never been sent to reserve grade by multiple coaches.
liltiger
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You might be on to something
Magpies1969
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I love the passion on this Forum and only wish our players showed the same passion and spirit.
Does anyone truly have faith in the current board, coaches and players that WT can turn it around in the next couple of seasons or do you see no real changes and being bottom 4 and the whipping boy of the NRL as our reality. My teenagers who support other clubs have never really seen much success at WT in their lifetime.
It is getting harder to give a real shit about the team even though I will stay loyal.
I hardly own any current WT apparel these days and the ones I do own stay in draws.
The way the form of Api (best hooker last year) and Papps (best second rower last couple of years) have gone down makes it harder to attract players decent players to the club as they will see their form and value go down.
I don't have a solution to WT problem but something has to give soon.
Does anyone truly have faith in the current board, coaches and players that WT can turn it around in the next couple of seasons or do you see no real changes and being bottom 4 and the whipping boy of the NRL as our reality. My teenagers who support other clubs have never really seen much success at WT in their lifetime.
It is getting harder to give a real shit about the team even though I will stay loyal.
I hardly own any current WT apparel these days and the ones I do own stay in draws.
The way the form of Api (best hooker last year) and Papps (best second rower last couple of years) have gone down makes it harder to attract players decent players to the club as they will see their form and value go down.
I don't have a solution to WT problem but something has to give soon.
Dennisspicer1
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And the reason that all those good players we got to strengthen our team,
Effectively are struggling with our team, because Being in this team with Brooks is like playing in a 12 man side, watch API this monday look for his halfs to be backing
him up,
It wont happen,
And this happened all the time for API, the halves of Penrith were always there backing him up.
TAKE NOTE HOW MANY TIMES YOU SEE BROOKSY BACKING API UP, SO HE HAS A PLAYMAKER TO GIVE BALL TO INSTEAD OF A PROP, IF HE CHOOSES TO DO SO.
And this then brings your Papali's into play???
AdelaideTiger
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Footy IQ has been soo poor at this club for too long.
There was a moment against the bulldogs, when the dogs made a break down the wing, and threw a loose pass which bounced off a tiger went forward and rolled to Tupou's feet.
He saw it, recognised he was offside and left it. The dogs ended up diving on the ball and sliding into touch gifting the ball back to WT and stopping dogs momentum.
It seemed an innocuous moment at the time, but it immediately stood out to me because you just know if it was Nofa there instead of Tupou, he would have dived on it and given away the penalty. And that has been typical of the Tigers for as long as I can remember, thoughtless and stupid errors that apply unnecessary pressure on our defence at crucial points in the game, because I question that some players even know the rules of the game sometimes...
That one moment from Tupou immediately suggested to me that he is meant to be at first grade level.
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