Tucker
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Its not enough said and I explained why using facts to back it up.
You are talking with your emotions and they are wrong.
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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You are talking with your emotions and they are wrong.
tony soprano
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Wow
Tiger-ferret
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Agree but that doesn’t stop him leaving in 6months aka hunt. Extensions just lock in income streams for the managers and the players.
The Hastings fan crew in here are blind, IMO.
He was a serviceable 7 at best, which is being laid bare for Newcastle now. They're barely a couple of wins above us, and he has been average at best.
Sheens had the right idea of moving him into a ball-playing lock. Hastings thought he could get better money as a halfback which he is entitled to do.
The man of steel award means nothing once you're playing in the NRL. I would go as far as saying Brooks is a better half than Hastings. He has speed, Jacko just doesn't.
The truth is - neither Brooks or Hastings were the answer, and if we have to go a season or two without an established halfback, that's on the team working behind the scenes in pathways for the last couple of years.
We've been put in a very difficult situation because of this, in a market that just so happens to be incredibly short of playmakers. Compounded issue.
He was a serviceable 7 at best, which is being laid bare for Newcastle now. They're barely a couple of wins above us, and he has been average at best.
Sheens had the right idea of moving him into a ball-playing lock. Hastings thought he could get better money as a halfback which he is entitled to do.
The man of steel award means nothing once you're playing in the NRL. I would go as far as saying Brooks is a better half than Hastings. He has speed, Jacko just doesn't.
The truth is - neither Brooks or Hastings were the answer, and if we have to go a season or two without an established halfback, that's on the team working behind the scenes in pathways for the last couple of years.
We've been put in a very difficult situation because of this, in a market that just so happens to be incredibly short of playmakers. Compounded issue.
You forgot AD and his 3rd ACL making a comeback.We have never looked weaker in the halves
pawsandclaws1
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I wonder if he was told before he re-signed that Brooks would be arriving?
Sheens leaving would be the best news we could get
Good point. I suggest there would be a few put off by Brooks' signing. Not just first graders either.
AdelaideTiger
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Tindall, Boyd and Walker would be my picks for 'available' HBs that the Tigers need to be targeting for '24.
Still under contract but all first grade quality currently 3rd choice halves in their teams. Pezet obviously on that list too but seems least likely to move.
Guys like Volkman, Madden, Cogger should be plan B.
Still under contract but all first grade quality currently 3rd choice halves in their teams. Pezet obviously on that list too but seems least likely to move.
Guys like Volkman, Madden, Cogger should be plan B.
jirskyr
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I think you are right about Hastings as a player, but also we took a risk that has backfired since both our halves have gone down with significant injuries and we didn't sign a prominent halfback during our 2023 recruitment drive.
Tucker
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Despite disagreeing with most of your post, Ill comment on the last paragraph.
We havent been put in any position. The club has created this mess from scratch without any outside influence.
- Hastings showed leadership and sparked some footy out of the 2022 squad = let him leave his contract early
- Madden shows he can handle the 7 as a depth player on occasion = let him walk
- Brooks declares he wants to leave = ignore that, make him stay
- Munster doesnt want to play here = sign Wakeham
- Doueihi does his knee again = Everything is OK...we have Wakeham
- Moses, Pearce, Johnson dont want to play here = sit on our hands sulking
- Brooks states he will be selfish on his next contract = low ball him
- Brooks signs for Manly = enquire about Madden and an 18 year old yet to debut in first grade.
We have let 3 NRL halves leave us this year and a 4th has done his ACL for the 3rd time. Essentially we have lost 4 NRL level halves in the past year and replaced them all with Brandon Wakeham.
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Is that definite Tt- where did you see this?
Just in the SMH now mate.
king_sirro
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For the record, Inglis won the Clive Churchill playing 5/8 not centre for Melbourne, then went on to win the Grand Final playing fullback for Souths.
Latrell was class at centre for the Roosters and NSW, playing his role in star studded teams perfectly. Moving to Fullback at Souths he has turned them into contenders, taking on a position with much more responsibility having more consistent influence on results.
Both players have been moved from centre to fullback and 5/8 by different coaches due to them having more influence there.
Hell, even you say you would play Mitchell at fullback while arguing he is better at centre, lol.
All of the above can be true - without meaning that we should have kept Jacko Hastings.
There's more to what we think we know, that has happened - Hastings himself has been coy to talk about it, as has Tim Sheens.
Just because Hastings is an NRL half, doesn't mean he is player we should have kept. In his only season with us, we still only walked away with 4 wins, regardless of how good his post match interviews were. He didn't spark any footy, again, we won 4 games. Our footy has been better this year.
Saying that we signed Wakeham cause we didn't get Munster is fundamentally wrong and embarrassing. We needed a back up half in case of injury. Munster isn't a back up half.
It's not for lack of trying to solve the halves problem that we have failed, its that we haven't been able to secure the top line talent we wanted - for various reasons, some of which we are already well aware of.
The fact is, Hastings is gone, he is not playing great footy in Newcastle either. No need to keep debating it. We're finally starting to see the change we have always needed in the halves even if the road will be bumpy.
Tucker
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BlackWhiteGold
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'Not just my father's son' by Jack Cogger
Before he became a rising star at the Newcastle Knights and before he signed with the Bulldogs, Jack Cogger had the chance to join his favourite team, Wests Tigers. He told them no.
www.athletesvoice.com.au
Good story from a few years ago on Jack Cogger. Interesting intro:
"My first club was a choice between the Knights and my favourite team, Wests Tigers. I went to Newcastle. Because at Wests Tigers, I didn’t want to be known as Trevor Cogger’s kid."
I am sure that will change if he gets a good offer from the WT.
Can anyone local pop in and do a safety check on the Tigers recruitment team ...
Seems like the lights are on but no one working
Are there anyone on the forum that can still play as you might be needed for a run soon..
Looking forward to 4pm when the club announce TT in the starting team again and end our excitement of a sway deal with Manly.. I am beginning to think they don't give a shit about there fans
Seems like the lights are on but no one working
Are there anyone on the forum that can still play as you might be needed for a run soon..
Looking forward to 4pm when the club announce TT in the starting team again and end our excitement of a sway deal with Manly.. I am beginning to think they don't give a shit about there fans
Coastie_Tiger
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3yrs 2.4mil $800k a season for someone who blows extremely hot and cold, doesnt have or know his set position, could he even handle the backrow god forbid 13.
