Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Spartan117]

Football is so different to pen pushers, I have been in and around football for nearly 40 years , I think I know a little about culture

We're the same vintage I reckon.

Most footy players have talent of physical attributes to make them competitors.

Why do some players go from certain clubs to storm for example and become significantly better.

Culture... higher standards, attitudes to what is required to be part of the organisation.

 

[colinbh]

Unlike the Roosters where everyone signs for less and then stays for a lot lower price

This mornings paper suggests we are targeting Bird, Hunt and big red from Canberra. Who knows.

 

[The Chad]

Plenty of players tackle with those stats. It you concede he is poor in attack, what do we need him for? We need guys that can make metres and get us rolling forward.

As I suspected- you've not read anything I've been saying.

 

[851]

For a bloke who achieved everything as a player, Brandy is often clueless as a commentator.
I would argue a lot on here have a better read on the game, we just didn’t have that extra bit required to be pro footballers.

All that hair dye has leeched in and fried his brain

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

The problem is Horsburgh comes with a high price tag for the return.

I'm not against almost any signing, but the contract term and value needs to be commensurate.

If you want a workhorse defender with no punch, we have Dave Klemmer. He doesn't miss many. Twal doesn't miss many either. The economics doesn't make sense to add another one of these types on 600k+.

At 350k you won't hear me complain about Horsburgh.

100% all players we sign need to be the right price. I think Corey is in a blip season because of injury initially this year. This time last year he was a SOO rep player. I don’t think any club with get him for 350k a season…..

 

[851]

Nope ! A draft . Well 2 to be exact . A draft for existing players , and another for amateur . You’re not going to stop player hoarding by top clubs , but the issue isn’t that they’re hoarding , it’s that there’s no penalty/ compensation for the fact . High draft picks/ huge financial restrictions are the only way forward .
It’s amateur hour in the nrl … always has been

They need a much bigger discount for local juniors in the cap

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I get 20 games across 3 seasons vibes from Jack Bird

 

[The Chad]

Prior to this season Horsburgh had 2 excellent seasons in a strong forward pack. This season injury & some kind of relationship fallout with Ricky- which is not uncommon- has put him into the doghouse.

He won't command $800k, but someone will pay him around that $600k a season.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

The problem is Horsburgh comes with a high price tag for the return.

I'm not against almost any signing, but the contract term and value needs to be commensurate.

If you want a workhorse defender with no punch, we have Dave Klemmer. He doesn't miss many. Twal doesn't miss many either. The economics doesn't make sense to add another one of these types on 600k+.

At 350k you won't hear me complain about Horsburgh.

Horsburgh would bring a lot to what is missing, namely elite line speed in D, effort plays & aggression.

He is good defending around the ruck, is often chasing in cover D & often near front in kick chases from my observations.

A lot of his value is in the ‘unseen’ 1%ers.

 

[The Chad]

A bunch of our current forward options get metres. More than some of the guys being touted.

What we lack is dominant middle defence & adequate wide defence. It's not about scoring 60 to beat 58.

It's about stopping them getting to 20 so 24 can beat them.

Unrelated- would it be a good use of cap space to front-load the guys the club cannot shift easily- Naden, Sullivan, Bateman for example- to make them easier to shift the next season?

Then, come Nov 1 this year, our cap space for 2026 is also very good & allows the club to bring in another couple of very high quality options?

 

[tiger_one]

Wests Tigers recruitment:

 

[tiger_one]

 

[Lestronge]

We don’t have the time , if this club doesn’t get finals football next year or the 2026 , we will be flooded with release demands, with the best backline we have had in years next year and money to buy some decent forwards for next year , we can’t carry people who MAYBE make

???? Are you talking about Miller ? I’m confused how that has anything to do with the backs ?

 

[hank37w]

Still going strong - 30 x 10 pellet package.

 

[Lestronge]

Football is so different to pen pushers, I have been in and around football for nearly 40 years , I think I know a little about culture

I don’t think that’s true . I think it’s about the individual as much as the collective . The most successful team I was ever involved on , I was absolutely miserable . Hater the coach , I was isolated away from my close mates in a different team , there was a clear clique in the team , and I couldn’t wait for the season to end so I could go back to my old club and bash them the next season . I hated every second of playing for them .
Winning comes from a strong culture , and a strong culture comes from winning . Sure it’s an ecosystem , but just like any ecosystem , there’s a million different variables that can totally destroy it .
A high profile example of this in recent memory is when Hodges went from Brisbane to the Rorters.

 

[Needaname]

U put to much into this culture stuff , the only culture players relate to is winning , nothing else matters . We need to buy us a finals spot either next year or the following year , or we will be back to another 20 year old rebuild, the best kids we have will then be ready to filter into 1st grade , but there won’t be any kids around if we don’t succeed in the next two years

Not disputing that, all part of a hardworking culture.
Besides Salmon and Critchton the bulldogs recruits all had an average winning record in the nrl of just over 50%. But they were ideal candidates because of their team first attitude.

 

[weststigers]

As I suspected- you've not read anything I've been saying.

Be clearer.

 

[bptiger 0]

???? Are you talking about Miller ? I’m confused how that has anything to do with the backs ?

Really , I am saying we have pretty good playmakers in he backs , but we need to really strengthen the forwards , we can’t carry blokes like miller

 

[weststigers]

Horsburgh would bring a lot to what is missing, namely elite line speed in D, effort plays & aggression.

He is good defending around the ruck, is often chasing in cover D & often near front in kick chases from my observations.

A lot of his value is in the ‘unseen’ 1%ers.

Yes...definitely unseen. I certainly haven't seen it, so I tend to agree.

 

[weststigers]

100% all players we sign need to be the right price. I think Corey is in a blip season because of injury initially this year. This time last year he was a SOO rep player. I don’t think any club with get him for 350k a season…..

He played one game of origin and yes his season was decent. People carrying on like he's first picked for QLD. No club will get him for 350k, but that is his value. No better than Twally.

Real origin reps are first picked for their club. He's been dumped to reserves.

Anyway whatever...you guys can circle jerk about this guy. He isn't coming to us anyway.