CEO - Shane Richardson

I’m not sure you understand the points I was making tbh.

And nothing I’ve said is incorrect.

The question was the club running on the matey. We are both correct as to the participants.

I doubt there were other people who couldn’t have filled Tim’s wife’s job living here and not in England. I don’t think my employers would offer any of my family a job to lure any of us in.

Tim took the management role and slid straight into coaching despite assurances he wouldn’t.

Tim was as guilty of living off the matey as the lads are who brought him over and the board who ratified it.

He could have rejected any and all offers made to him and gone against any instruction or suggestion, but he didn’t do so. He was in the dissonant orchestra too.

And his tenure was “regrettable”.

I’m not sure you understand the points I was making tbh.

And nothing I’ve said is incorrect.

The question was the club running on the matey. We are both correct as to the participants.

I doubt there were other people who couldn’t have filled Tim’s wife’s job living here and not in England. I don’t think my employers would offer any of my family a job to lure any of us in.

Tim took the management role and slid straight into coaching despite assurances he wouldn’t.

Tim was as guilty of living off the matey as the lads are who brought him over and the board who ratified it.

He could have rejected any and all offers made to him and gone against any instruction or suggestion, but he didn’t do so. He was in the dissonant orchestra too.

And his tenure was “regrettable”.
That’s all assumptions , based on no evidence . And if he negotiated his wife into a job as part of his remuneration package , what has it got to do with you ? Especially if she is qualified for the role . Which she apparently was .
You have no evidence he snakes his way into the job , and I’ll say it again , this whole concept was the brain child of Mr “a few vinos at Stilettos” himself , and those 2 baboons for listening to him .
And to be honest , there’s no way on earth if that didn’t happen , we would have Olam or Luai , or the bulk of our premiership winning Matt’s team from 2 years ago locked up , not to mention the green shoots of this current Matt’s/ball teams .
They all signed for Benji/ sheens.
And hot tip that wasn’t happening for Ciraldo , or Madge , or every other no name candidate , such is the aura of our current coach .
You’re right ! I don’t understand your point . Just another soap box being shouted from with very little to no knowledge .
And you can do whatever mental gymnastics you need to achieve your narrative ie. Sheens is the devil , but it’s not actually true .
If you hate the current setup the only people to blame are Pascoe and Lee , Including hiring Fulton because ray hadley said so .
You don’t blame your colleagues for negotiating a better package than you ! (Maybe you do which is weird!) , so why would you have an issue with an employee negotiating the best package for themself .
The guy didn’t hire himself !!!!’
 
you guys have lost your mind turning on Benji after 2 trial games and a round 1 loss to Canberra … in Canberra !
You sit at your keyboard and endlessly bag the board , coach , ceo , Fulton whoever … and a lot of the time the criticism is based around how fickle and short sighted people like Pascoe and Lee and the board were yet …. We have a whole new structure in place that’s only 3 months old and you want to throw the baby out with the bath water … it’s literally like reading the thoughts of schizophrenia patients …
And the conspiracy garbage talk around Fulton and sheens … OMG ! One was an arrogant dickhead who’s made a career on the back of his dad’s name , and the other was past his prime and the job beyond him . Both hirings are the result of an incompetent chairman and ceo .
It is not rocket science !!!!!
 
you guys have lost your mind turning on Benji after 2 trial games and a round 1 loss to Canberra … in Canberra !
You sit at your keyboard and endlessly bag the board , coach , ceo , Fulton whoever … and a lot of the time the criticism is based around how fickle and short sighted people like Pascoe and Lee and the board were yet …. We have a whole new structure in place that’s only 3 months old and you want to throw the baby out with the bath water … it’s literally like reading the thoughts of schizophrenia patients …
And the conspiracy garbage talk around Fulton and sheens … OMG ! One was an arrogant dickhead who’s made a career on the back of his dad’s name , and the other was past his prime and the job beyond him . Both hirings are the result of an incompetent chairman and ceo .
It is not rocket science !!!!!
We actually won the round one game. 😜
 
That’s all assumptions , based on no evidence . And if he negotiated his wife into a job as part of his remuneration package , what has it got to do with you ? Especially if she is qualified for the role . Which she apparently was .
You have no evidence he snakes his way into the job , and I’ll say it again , this whole concept was the brain child of Mr “a few vinos at Stilettos” himself , and those 2 baboons for listening to him .
And to be honest , there’s no way on earth if that didn’t happen , we would have Olam or Luai , or the bulk of our premiership winning Matt’s team from 2 years ago locked up , not to mention the green shoots of this current Matt’s/ball teams .
They all signed for Benji/ sheens.
And hot tip that wasn’t happening for Ciraldo , or Madge , or every other no name candidate , such is the aura of our current coach .
You’re right ! I don’t understand your point . Just another soap box being shouted from with very little to no knowledge .
And you can do whatever mental gymnastics you need to achieve your narrative ie. Sheens is the devil , but it’s not actually true .
If you hate the current setup the only people to blame are Pascoe and Lee , Including hiring Fulton because ray hadley said so .
You don’t blame your colleagues for negotiating a better package than you ! (Maybe you do which is weird!) , so why would you have an issue with an employee negotiating the best package for themself .
The guy didn’t hire himself !!!!’
It’s not assumptions at all, plenty of evidence and you may be missing the point for a good vent.

The question was whether or not the club was being run on the matey.

That is to say that whether or not decisions were made on the basis of relationships instead of merit.

Tim’s wife job was a relationship appointment. Reference to family was an example i gave. It was a fair example as well.

How many other Clubs offer a coach’s wife a job as part of a package?

Did your employer offer your wife a job too?

It’s unprofessional and it’s unnecessary.

And we know where Tim ended up and after all his footy management work and coaching or whatever, under his watch or with his involvement, 2 spoons and the worst era in club history.

Tim was way out of his depth and left in shame. He’s not the devil, just vanilla incompetent.

After the ciraldo fiasco, he appoints himself. Tell me that’s appropriate when his job is to actually select the coach.

The whole due process was abandoned.

He said several times he wasn’t coming here to coach, but he helped himself to the role as soon as he could. He could have declined but he didn’t. Gal got him in that interview.

Tim wouldn’t have had the job if he wasn’t on the mate.

Lee and Justin were up to the necks in the matey and Tim went along with it.

I’m not sure where your other points are going.

Benji is a relic of that era as is Robbie.

Whether JL and Olam will perform as we expect is an unknown.

You are making assumptions that Benji will lead the club to greener pastures without evidence. He may or may not.
If anything, the early signals aren’t great, but fairness to him, we shall see.

If you don’t think we were a club of mates, that’s fine by me, but I disagree.
 
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It’s not assumptions at all, plenty of evidence and you may be missing the point for a good vent.

The question was whether or not the club was being run on the matey.

That is to say that whether or not decisions were made on the basis of relationships instead of merit.

Tim’s wife job was a relationship appointment. Reference to family was an example i gave. It was a fair example as well.

How many other Clubs offer a coach’s wife a job as part of a package?

Did your employer offer your wife a job too?

It’s unprofessional and it’s unnecessary.

And we know where Tim ended up and after all his footy management work and coaching or whatever, under his watch or with his involvement, 2 spoons and the worst era in club history.

Tim was way out of his depth and left in shame. He’s not the devil, just vanilla incompetent.

After the ciraldo fiasco, he appoints himself. Tell me that’s appropriate when his job is to actually select the coach.

The whole due process was abandoned.

He said several times he wasn’t coming here to coach, but he helped himself to the role as soon as he could. He could have declined but he didn’t. Gal got him in that interview.

Tim wouldn’t have had the job if he wasn’t on the mate.

Lee and Justin were up to the necks in the matey and Tim went along with it.

I’m not sure where your other points are going.

Benji is a relic of that era as is Robbie.

Whether JL and Olam will perform as we expect is an unknown.

You are making assumptions that Benji will lead the club to greener pastures without evidence. He may or may not.
If anything, the early signals aren’t great, but fairness to him, we shall see.

If you don’t think we were a club of mates, that’s fine by me, but I disagree.
Waffle ! All of that ! Speculation at best ! All football clubs are run by nepotism ! From Gymea gorillas to Guildford Broncos , to St Mary’s saints to east’s tigers to wests tigers to nswrl blues to ARL. It’s all nepotism .. what planet are you on ?
Look at the blues last year , got walloped , and was filled with panthers players current and former or roosters players what’s the link ? Former Fittler clubs where he had ties . And why did Stef get picked ? Because he has been apart of that particular inner sanctum for a while now … then when Madge takes over he’s on his arse , because he’s not in the Madge inner sanctum . It’s all nepotism … look at the Balmain sg ball team the coach is Lebanese background and have a look at that team list ….. it’s why Ricky Stuart’s coaching staff is basically ex raiders players , same for broncos .
It has and always will be a case of are my mates better than your mates !
The trick is finding the right mates … and that’s no different in business … no matter what buzz words and corporate word spaghetti people want to use …
 
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Waffle ! All of that ! Speculation at best ! All football clubs are run by nepotism ! From Gymea gorillas to Guildford Broncos , to St Mary’s saints to east’s tigers to wests tigers to nswrl blues to ARL. It’s all nepotism .. what planet are you on ?
Look at the blues last year , got walloped , and was filled with panthers players current and former or roosters players what’s the link ? Former Fittler clubs where he had ties . And why did Stef get picked ? Because he has been apart of that particular inner sanctum for a while now … then when Madge takes over he’s on his arse , because he’s not in the Madge inner sanctum . It’s all nepotism … look at the Balmain sg ball team the coach is Lebanese background and have a look at that team list ….. it’s why Ricky Stuart’s coaching staff is basically ex raiders players , same for broncos .
Your right Lestronge.

Sharks, recruited Fitzgibbons dad as GM to get Craig.
Penrith kept Ivan to keep Nathan! Take Nathan out of it, I don't see a 5M offer for Ivan from the 1 year we had him.

The conventional wizdom in running companies is to avoid nepotism, and it makes sense. You get really inbred companies and often people in roles who are just there, because they are relatives.

In League it makes sense. When you need to get someone in your side and that person is the difference between winning or losing, you hire Mrs Haas as your HR expert. Sure anyone pisses her off, she might just ask her husband to deck them*.



*I still don't see a problem here. Most HR stuff sucks. Payne Haas decking people would be a new and novel approach.
 
Your right Lestronge.

Sharks, recruited Fitzgibbons dad as GM to get Craig.
Penrith kept Ivan to keep Nathan! Take Nathan out of it, I don't see a 5M offer for Ivan from the 1 year we had him.

The conventional wizdom in running companies is to avoid nepotism, and it makes sense. You get really inbred companies and often people in roles who are just there, because they are relatives.

In League it makes sense. When you need to get someone in your side and that person is the difference between winning or losing, you hire Mrs Haas as your HR expert. Sure anyone pisses her off, she might just ask her husband to deck them*.



*I still don't see a problem here. Most HR stuff sucks. Payne Haas decking people would be a new and novel approach.
Get Marty Tapau to dead lift them into the sun !!
 
Waffle ! All of that ! Speculation at best ! All football clubs are run by nepotism ! From Gymea gorillas to Guildford Broncos , to St Mary’s saints to east’s tigers to wests tigers to nswrl blues to ARL. It’s all nepotism .. what planet are you on ?
Look at the blues last year , got walloped , and was filled with panthers players current and former or roosters players what’s the link ? Former Fittler clubs where he had ties . And why did Stef get picked ? Because he has been apart of that particular inner sanctum for a while now … then when Madge takes over he’s on his arse , because he’s not in the Madge inner sanctum . It’s all nepotism … look at the Balmain sg ball team the coach is Lebanese background and have a look at that team list ….. it’s why Ricky Stuart’s coaching staff is basically ex raiders players , same for broncos .
It has and always will be a case of are my mates better than your mates !
The trick is finding the right mates … and that’s no different in business … no matter what buzz words and corporate word spaghetti people want to use …
Well there you go, you agree with my proposition.

There wasn’t a need to run off on your frolic, not that I minded one bit.

But what is good for the gander isn’t always good for the goose.

And, I’m afraid that HB have come in and summarily shot most of the board in the head. And I don’t think they are on the matey gravy train (anymore).

But you might say that if we don’t improve, we might have been better off with matey rules. I could buy that, except we are spooners!

We should give the junta the same amount of time as Lee had. If we don’t improve, fine, resurrect the mateys.

Have a homecoming parade with a float with Lees Ferrari on it, a dozen kids in Brooksy costumes and a giant stuffed effigy of Madge swearing at the public.
 
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Nepotism has some advantages but its big disadvantage is the way other peers view any given situation. If you look at the way a couple of senior players (Hunt, Bird) communicate with young Flano round 1, round 2 result may have been caused by a week of distraction?
 
Well there you go, you agree with my proposition.

There wasn’t a need to run off on your frolic, not that I minded one bit.

But what is good for the gander isn’t always good for the goose.

And, I’m afraid that HB have come in and summarily shot most of the board in the head. And I don’t think they are on the matey gravy train (anymore).

But you might say that if we don’t improve, we might have been better off with matey rules. I could buy that, except we are spooners!

We should give the junta the same amount of time as Lee had. If we don’t improve, fine, resurrect the mateys.

Have a homecoming parade with a float with Lees Ferrari on it, a dozen kids in Brooksy costumes and a giant stuffed effigy of Madge swearing at the public.
Dribble dribble dribble …
 
Podcast Link James Graham is joined by Wests Tigers CEO Shane Richardson

Future not looking too positive for LO.
This week James Graham is joined by Wests Tigers CEO Shane Richardson. Shane takes us inside the journey that the Tigers are on to turn around their club, we find out how the Tigers will decide where to play their games in future, we talk Marshall's work ethic & Shane explains why the greenshoots are already showing at the Tigers!

0:00 Wests Tigers Members & Fans
12:50 Becoming Tigers CEO
25:26 Where Will The Tigers Play?
36:17 Richo’s First Few Weeks As CEO
41:35 Decision To Let Go Scott Fulton
50:38 Signing Jarome Luai
58:22 Benji Marshall
1:15:52 Expectations For 2024
1:21:00 Biggest Challenges Facing The Tigers
1:27:58 Rich Digital: The Conflict Of Interest Story
1:33:36 South Sydney Rabbitohs
1:43:41 Relationship With Brydens Lawyers

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-bye-round-with-james-graham/id1629371037?i=1000650233474
 
Podcast Link James Graham is joined by Wests Tigers CEO Shane Richardson

Future not looking too positive for LO.
This week James Graham is joined by Wests Tigers CEO Shane Richardson. Shane takes us inside the journey that the Tigers are on to turn around their club, we find out how the Tigers will decide where to play their games in future, we talk Marshall's work ethic & Shane explains why the greenshoots are already showing at the Tigers!

0:00 Wests Tigers Members & Fans
12:50 Becoming Tigers CEO
25:26 Where Will The Tigers Play?
36:17 Richo’s First Few Weeks As CEO
41:35 Decision To Let Go Scott Fulton
50:38 Signing Jarome Luai
58:22 Benji Marshall
1:15:52 Expectations For 2024
1:21:00 Biggest Challenges Facing The Tigers
1:27:58 Rich Digital: The Conflict Of Interest Story
1:33:36 South Sydney Rabbitohs
1:43:41 Relationship With Brydens Lawyers

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-bye-round-with-james-graham/id1629371037?i=1000650233474

Podcast Link James Graham is joined by Wests Tigers CEO Shane Richardson

Future not looking too positive for LO.
This week James Graham is joined by Wests Tigers CEO Shane Richardson. Shane takes us inside the journey that the Tigers are on to turn around their club, we find out how the Tigers will decide where to play their games in future, we talk Marshall's work ethic & Shane explains why the greenshoots are already showing at the Tigers!

0:00 Wests Tigers Members & Fans
12:50 Becoming Tigers CEO
25:26 Where Will The Tigers Play?
36:17 Richo’s First Few Weeks As CEO
41:35 Decision To Let Go Scott Fulton
50:38 Signing Jarome Luai
58:22 Benji Marshall
1:15:52 Expectations For 2024
1:21:00 Biggest Challenges Facing The Tigers
1:27:58 Rich Digital: The Conflict Of Interest Story
1:33:36 South Sydney Rabbitohs
1:43:41 Relationship With Brydens Lawyers

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-bye-round-with-james-graham/id1629371037?i=1000650233474
Thanks, a lot to unpack.

I’m about half way through it.

Emotionally, we all want to feel liberated from the appalling management we’ve all been subjected to, but it’s the substitute “answers” that are just as critical.

So it’s quite good to hear what he’s trying to accomplish. Then we can see how he measures up.

Note that he’s careful not to commit, but if we can get a good management structure in, he has faith they can professionalize us over time.

Pity he’s struggling health wise. Last thing any of us need.

He’s having a swing, full throttle it sounds like. Very good.

There’s plenty of sly backhanders to the past if you listen between the lines.
 
The poddy has dropped. Not on YouTube yet.

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Pre the win on the weekend

Enjoy
Amazingly honest and encouraging interview.

Even bigger fan of Shane Richardson.

Ps. I'm gonna become a member this week.
 
Listened to this earlier…

Richo has doubled down on the “only talks to members” thing again… personally I think he needs to scale this back a little ..at least this season

Seems that LO is on its last legs and even Cambo he was non comittal as well,,,,i think he is preparing the groundwork for a move of most games to Homebush…

Hope he doesn’t necessarily think that because something worked at Souths that it will definitely work here .. different times, different circumstances and different clubs …

When into a lot of detail around the “conflict of interest “ thing .. he must be a little concerned about this…normally he brushes anything of this nature …. Said he would give this up if he signed on for a longer period… after listening I would suggest that he wants to stay another couple of years
 
Future ground? Seems like 2 x options in the horizon for choice - neither totally great.

1/ Homebush- there has to be someone making use of the good facilities there, WT are a pretty logical choice. Could do it as a standalone.

2/ Build something new in conjunction with Bulldogs and share at Liverpool or thereabouts.

Both options give access to state of the art, modern facilities for club, media and sidekicks and amenities for spectators inc good transport connections inc parking.

Reality

3. Leichhardt, Campbelltown (and Lidcombe for the heck of it)- looks like not getting any needed upgrade to level required and it will cease to be usable for NRL purposes.

4/ Bankwest Stadium (aka Parra)- never in the mix, its Parra's and barely tolerated other users.

5/ Sydney Football Stadium- Roosters and South Sydney have that covered.

Wonder

Ive always thought since the SuperLeague war that the NRL should own 4 x grounds in Sydney basin (1 centralish Sydney, 1 x north Sydney and 1 x west sydney and 1 x south west sydney) and the NRL clubs share them as shareholders with the NRL- the grounds are kept up to NRL standard by the NRL and homegrounds become a bit more nuanced.

Anyway I reckon 1 or 2 is the way we will go and probably 1 is the most reasonable in terms of infrastructure already being there and not needing to be built and TBH, not having to share the ground with a competitor.
 
Think Liverpool is an option shared with Dogs, I don't like it as they will take it over but probably has more legs in it that a redeveloped CSS
 

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