HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

No, I'm happy for them not to be the owners. And I'm filthy that Richardson is gone.
I'm just looking for reasonable discussion and must people in this thread are either far left or far right. Chad can see both sides IMO.
I don't know if the board deserved to be dumped or not. I'm not gonna assume that they did or didn't.
I know they signed off on a 3 ground stadium contract in the one city so straight away I'm not impressed with them.

What have the board done this year that has you feeling we're on the right path?
So which stadiums would you have not signed on with? Leichardt? Campbelltown? Commbank?
 
One thing is clear.

The findings of the review, which:
- recommended an independent board
- was implemented and agreed to by HBG,

has now been changed to majority HBG board. Fact.

Regardless of the detail and who was right or wrong in this instance:
- HBG have not maintained their commitment to an independent board.

I would understand if they replaced independent with independent, but they have taken control by sacking the independent board members - O'Farrell has agreed to come back. The others not so keen understandably.

That is fact. There is nothing Chad or anyone else can say that refutes that. If HBG install a new set of independent board members with a majority, I will take it back and cheer.

This is the part that seems to be ignored in favour of discussing the politics of it all.
 
Mate it doesn't matter who has the majority if the people you are working with are not pulling in the same direction - hence the review. They had a majority then and three directors got dumped and banned on the back of it.
No way Richardson would have signed on without an independent board for that reason.
They have a history of infighting detrimental to "WTs" reaching it's potential.
Could the NRL integrity investigation into Richardson played a part in his resignation?

Has this issue been resolved?
 
Not necessarily true.. if they are cleaning the decks to run a more professional organisation, then this could be a good strategic move - however I don't think it applies to hbg
Doesn't that mean they weren't well functioning to begin with?
 
One thing is clear.

The findings of the review, which:
- recommended an independent board
- was implemented and agreed to by HBG,

has now been changed to majority HBG board. Fact.

Regardless of the detail and who was right or wrong in this instance:
- HBG have not maintained their commitment to an independent board.

I would understand if they replaced independent with independent, but they have taken control by sacking the independent board members - O'Farrell has agreed to come back. The others not so keen understandably.

That is fact. There is nothing Chad or anyone else can say that refutes that. If HBG install a new set of independent board members with a majority, I will take it back and cheer.

This is the part that seems to be ignored in favour of discussing the politics of it all.
There are other of the independents returning.
 
Doesn't that mean they weren't well functioning to begin with?
Organisations that vere offcourse can get back on track with the right leadership, which might include the culling of the old guard. It would be unfair to assume that businesses cannot be turned around because they have been dysfunctional in the past.

I dont think this is the case with HBG though, their decisions make no sense.

Hammertime hit the nail on the head - Richo was likely too fast paced and wasnt about sitting around waiting for stuff to happen. He is the sort of guy we needed to get the club back on course. I think Shaun seems like a good guy, but he's no richo.
 
Organisations that vere offcourse can get back on track with the right leadership, which might include the culling of the old guard. It would be unfair to assume that businesses cannot be turned around because they have been dysfunctional in the past.

I dont think this is the case with HBG though, their decisions make no sense.

Hammertime hit the nail on the head - Richo was likely too fast paced and wasnt about sitting around waiting for stuff to happen. He is the sort of guy we needed to get the club back on course. I think Shaun seems like a good guy, but he's no richo.
So they do that because they weren't functioning in the first place.
 
I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Do you not think that organisations can improve their functionality by making the right changes?
I’m sure organisations can bring in better quality members, however, HBG is limited to having a majority board of debenture holders, who have become debentures holders thru a closed shop selection process. Therefore I think you will find any new debenture holders will have an existing ‘alignment’ with HBG.

Thus limiting any possible improvement or direction moving forward.
 
I’m sure organisations can bring in better quality members, however, HBG is limited to having a majority board of debenture holders, who have become debentures holders thru a closed shop selection process. Therefore I think you will find any new debenture holders will have an existing ‘alignment’ with HBG.

Thus limiting any possible improvement or direction moving forward.
While I think that is correct at HBG level I don't think is has to be at WT level. They could choose to appoint a number of board members that are selected from within the HBG membership based on the skills that they hold. Of course they can do the exact opposite as well so only time will tell.

The end result is that we need a board that has the interests of Wests Tigers at its core. I personally don't care if they are HBG or independent - as long as they have the skills required and are looking after the best interests of WT as opposed to other factions.

We, the unwashed, don't know what we don't know. However, based on the statement by BOF we can assume that HBG have been given some clear direction from the NRL regarding actions they could take if HBG continues its malevonent behaviour.

I trust that this is enough for HBG to step back a little and focus on what's best for Wests Tigers as opposed to the wants of a few debenture holders.
 
I’m sure organisations can bring in better quality members, however, HBG is limited to having a majority board of debenture holders, who have become debentures holders thru a closed shop selection process. Therefore I think you will find any new debenture holders will have an existing ‘alignment’ with HBG.

Thus limiting any possible improvement or direction moving forward.
I agree 100%.
 
While I think that is correct at HBG level I don't think is has to be at WT level. They could choose to appoint a number of board members that are selected from within the HBG membership based on the skills that they hold. Of course they can do the exact opposite as well so only time will tell.

The end result is that we need a board that has the interests of Wests Tigers at its core. I personally don't care if they are HBG or independent - as long as they have the skills required and are looking after the best interests of WT as opposed to other factions.

We, the unwashed, don't know what we don't know. However, based on the statement by BOF we can assume that HBG have been given some clear direction from the NRL regarding actions they could take if HBG continues its malevonent behaviour.

I trust that this is enough for HBG to step back a little and focus on what's best for Wests Tigers as opposed to the wants of a few debenture holders.
I think the most important thing is that they need to have connections that are willing to invest $$$ in WT and happy to be repaid in exposure/ branding.

I honestly want to know how other NRL clubs function.

Do other club owners distribute some profits to the shareholders? If they don't, are shareholders allowed to borrow against the equity of a Club?

We need money and if no one can take any money out of WT, then why would anyone put money in?

The Board, the CEO, the owners etc.. they're not the issue. It's the structure.

Our main accomplishment in the last decade has been the CoE which was built through state funding.

I understand every NRL club relies on funding and many would go broke without it.

I don't know what the answer is obviously.
 

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