Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

GNR4LIFE said:
As a Test cricket purist, it’s sad to have watched the monster that is 20/20 take over the game. 20/20 was designed to be faster, more exciting, highlight reel cricket. That’s the direction PVL is trying to take league in. If he stays in charge long enough, don’t be surprised to see him outlaw tackling. Not for safety reasons, but tackling will slow the game down too much. Players taking a ball carrier to the ground takes too long. Maybe we’ll be lucky, and defenders will be able to wrap their arms around the ball carrier and the ref will call held.
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Commercial success at the expense of the game itself. Anyone who has watched the game for longer than 5 years doesn't like the way it is going.
 
king_sirro said:
I never said its a shit idea. Ive always wanted 20 teams and 2 conferences, what are you talking about? I said the wild card round is shit.

I would have the conferences decided on placing each year. Odd numbers 1st, 3rd, 5th etc in conference one. Even numbers 2nd, 4th, 6th etc in conference 2.

This keeps the talent fair across the conferences, and doesnt have the same teams always playing each other.
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Ok simple misunderstanding on that my bad . I don’t think you can change the conferences like that . It’s hard to build rivalries and ultimately drama if everything changes all the time .
Honestly a division of Tigers, eels, panthers, dogs would be unreal . But 3 of those teams would be in the nrls top 6 supported teams , and other teams having access to the eels , tigers , dogs fanbase would surely be an issue .
I’m pretty confident I’ve got it right though with the balance . The east Sydney teams in one conference , the west Sydney teams in another , although I don’t really like Perth and PNG being in the same conference as that’s hectic travel .
 
GNR4LIFE said:
The games talent pool bottoms out at 15-16 teams. 17 is pushing it. 18 will be too many. 19 is getting out of hand. 20+ is revenue raising and showing no regard for the quality of the product.
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You'd think with the money the game brings in now some of it should be reinvested to ensure there's enough talent coming through to keep the gravy train going and growing.
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
Commercial success at the expense of the game itself. Anyone who has watched the game for longer than 5 years doesn't like the way it is going.
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He has the media under the thumb. No one will dare call out his bullshit. The closest I have seen anyone come to criticising him I was think Andrew Moore. Who made sure to preface it with what a good job he was doing, but said “maybe” PVL could benefit having someone beside him telling him sometimes maybe something isn’t a good idea”
 
GNR4LIFE said:
He has the media under the thumb. No one will dare call out his bullshit. The closest I have seen anyone come to criticising him I was think Andrew Moore. Who made sure to preface it with what a good job he was doing, but said “maybe” PVL could benefit having someone beside him telling him sometimes maybe something isn’t a good idea”
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The job he is doing is dependent upon the metrics you're measuring him on. If Moore was saying he was doing a good job in the commercial sense then most would agree. In terms of the quality of the game itself now, I don't think there is many rusted on fans of the game who would agree.
 
Nadz4483 said:
I actually have this idea of having a 20 team, 4 conference league.... 5 teams per conference, top 2 teams from each conference make the top 8...
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Under this model, how many games each season and which teams play each other every season?
Would the conferences change each year?

I personally would not like the same conferences each year. Apart from being a bit boring, could be an unfair distribution of good vs bad teams
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
It's all well and good that PVL is bringing record broadcast deals and the like into the game, but at what cost? The product that is the game itself is arguably the worst it has been.
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I don't disagree with what you have written. I do think about the game in the UK and it dying if the NRL does not intervene. That would be disastrous for RL so I am happy the NRL is in a position to assist.
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
You'd think with the money the game brings in now some of it should be reinvested to ensure there's enough talent coming through to keep the gravy train going and growing.
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TBH Im in favour of NRL taking control of junior comps and develop from there. Too much variety in the clubs controlling juniors- some have good bases, others terrible and rely on buying talented juniors. Also some clubs have virtually no junior base anyway- Perth, Melbourne etc. Adelaide too if it gets in again. Juniors & parents have little to no loyalty to the comp / club they play in and are looking for best deals already when 16-17 y.o.

Hell, maybe WT shift to Adelaide and keep their junior base boundaries in Sydney and KOE cup side?
 
king_sirro said:
Thats my whole point. The fabric of the game,, of sport in general is being lost. Eventually it will backfire if it isnt reigned in
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The Roosters winning the comp is not good for the comp. Their own supporters are lame. I live near Allianz and there was zero buzz. Imagine if we won it. It would be a month long celebration.
 
king_sirro said:
If only that issue was that simple
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Yes at junior level teams in our day had one big forward to deal with and probably had very little mobility or footwork
Now you could face 5 big forwards just as big with mobility and footwork

Add a few backs with those same characteristics
Smaller kids with skills get totally outmatched at that level and become more interested in video games and or girls
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Maybe the Aussie kids should get better then.
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Its become a collision game...big bodies rule
Throw in the head knock/CTE issue,and mums wont support their kids playing. Already a struggle
If we dont do anything different going forward, there may not be a game in 20 yrs
Need to balance what the viewers like to watch ....vs long term
Need kids playing fr a future
PVL..who has done an outstanding job optimising the present... needs to understand this
 
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happy_tiger said:
Yes at junior level teams in our day had one big forward to deal with and probably had very little mobility or footwork
Now you could face 5 big forwards just as big with mobility and footwork

Add a few backs with those same characteristics
Smaller kids with skills get totally outmatched at that level and become more interested in video games and or girls
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Yep.
You cant blame parents of smaller white kids not wanting them getting smashed by bigger islanders at the age of 12 or so.

Im in support of the weight for age concept but you can only play up or down one age group. So if you are deemed too big for under 12's you play 13's. Even if you are still the biggest in the 13's you wont be made to play 2 age groups up. If you are a tiny 15 year old, you play 14's but cant play 13's.
 
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