It's time to take the fight back to HBG

achilles · 2026-10-17T20:17:57+1100

cochise said:
I don't agree.

No suprise there given history

MotoG · 2026-10-17T20:54:24+1100

Pringle Gold said:
And what would you know?

I love how you say respectfully as well 😂.

Do you support HBG buying stakes in soccer teams and do you think that Shaun’s has actually secured any additional funding for pathways or football operations through that business case he was spruiking?

To work out the dynamics of any organisation.. Look at where the power lies..

With Wests Tigers, its no secret that its not with the CEO. Look what happened to Shane Richardson

How many different boards does Mielekamp report to. He may have ideas that he wants to implement. Some might even be beneficial in the short / long term. Doesn't mean they will necessarily come to fruition though

MotoG · 2026-10-17T20:57:01+1100

achilles said:
How would member voting be guarantee for improvement?

Its not a guarantee. Nothing can be guaranteed

However it at least introduces the opportunity for accountability, where currently - there is none. Thats a pretty important step in the right direction

When a small group of people more or less have absolute power with very little accountability. I think we all know what direction things tend to go in..

Glenji95 · 2026-10-17T20:57:13+1100

cochise said:
I don't agree.

Why does HBG losing the license worry you so much? You yourself set up a petition to get an independent board into the club, but them actually losing the license worries you a lot. Why are you against it if you don’t mind me asking?

cochise · 2026-10-17T21:18:42+1100

Glenji95 said:
Why does HBG losing the license worry you so much? You yourself set up a petition to get an independent board into the club, but them actually losing the license worries you a lot. Why are you against it if you don’t mind me asking?

I don't think they will lose the licence for starters. So it's being realistic.

I'm also don't really see having a private owner as being any better than what we have now.

Right now I think there is a potential to get a positive situation in place.

achilles · 2026-10-17T21:24:33+1100

MotoG said:
Its not a guarantee. Nothing can be guaranteed

However it at least introduces the opportunity for accountability, where currently - there is none. Thats a pretty important step in the right direction

When a small group of people more or less have absolute power with very little accountability. I think we all know what direction things tend to go in..

How would it introduce accountability?

achilles · 2026-10-17T21:29:28+1100

TigerTone said:
Go Hard!!! Get the current clowns out of our club and return it to the members and let
them call the shots as to who is sitting at the seats on board table and so on.
This is the only way membership and attendance and the prosperity of the club
will rise to levels we aint seen before.

What do the panthers do?

achilles · 2026-10-17T21:31:07+1100

supercoach said:
Good to see the demented debenture system is being outed in the media and the courts. Would love to see the HBG debenture system dismantled and this might just do it. The clubs going nowhere under the present leadership

Seems legal (debentures) to me any legal people out there think otherwise?

innsaneink · 2026-10-17T21:33:38+1100

achilles said:
Seems legal (debentures) to me any legal people out there think otherwise?

No ones saying its illegal

achilles · 2026-10-17T21:34:49+1100

Gotta love the people who come on here to advise they know something but dont tell you what they know

achilles · 2026-10-17T21:39:19+1100

Chunk said:
Yeah, I'm no lawyer but I wonder what effect an individual can have on the debenture system or is it a personal endeavour?

Will his or hers 'unfair dismisal' be deemed the fault of the debenture system itself?

The second paragraph i would say yes but dont know if that enough to have it blown up

innsaneink · 2026-10-17T21:41:27+1100

achilles said:
Gotta love the people who come on here to advise they know something but dont you what they know

That doesnt make sense

Who are you referring to?

Pringle Gold · 2026-10-17T21:55:16+1100

MotoG said:
To work out the dynamics of any organisation.. Look at where the power lies..

With Wests Tigers, its no secret that its not with the CEO. Look what happened to Shane Richardson

How many different boards does Mielekamp report to. He may have ideas that he wants to implement. Some might even be beneficial in the short / long term. Doesn't mean they will necessarily come to fruition though

I don’t disagree there are significant structural and governance flaws within the Tigers set-up. It’s clear HBG are the major issue and problem.

However that doesn’t excuse SM’s public praise of HBGs decision to invest in the Mariners and divert more funds away from the club.

Name one other NRL club CEO that would openly praise a decision that is detrimental to their club.

Merlot · 2026-10-17T21:58:27+1100

Chunk said:
Yeah, I'm no lawyer but I wonder what effect an individual can have on the debenture system or is it a personal endeavour?

Will his or hers 'unfair dismisal' be deemed the fault of the debenture system itself?

Mrs A is still a paying member,so it won't be hers,good chance his will be considering the time lines of his removal from the club

king_sirro · 2026-10-17T22:02:37+1100

Can someone tell me is Tony Andrecchio pro Wests Tigers?

Not PRO Balmain, not pro Magpies...2 teams i don't give a shit about

Is he a positive for Wests Tigers?

Merlot · 2026-10-17T22:03:34+1100

Pringle Gold said:
I don’t disagree there are significant structural and governance flaws within the Tigers set-up. It’s clear HBG are the major issue and problem.

However that doesn’t excuse SM’s public praise of HBGs decision to invest in the Mariners and divert more funds away from the club.

Name one other NRL club CEO that would openly praise a decision that is detrimental to their club.

Michael Searle from the gold coast titans - manly connection for the central coast beagles did a good job of scuttling the club

hammertime · 2026-10-17T22:04:10+1100

Pringle Gold said:
I don’t disagree there are significant structural and governance flaws within the Tigers set-up. It’s clear HBG are the major issue and problem.

However that doesn’t excuse SM’s public praise of HBGs decision to invest in the Mariners and divert more funds away from the club.

Name one other NRL club CEO that would openly praise a decision that is detrimental to their club.

You cant blame SM for that. The bloke knows these guys have egos and hes playing to that. It will allow him to get more done.

The funding isn't mutually exclusive. HBG have more than enough to go around.

SMs behaviour is just a result of playing to their behaviours. The rot is at the top.

Nimbus · 2026-10-17T22:14:11+1100

king_sirro said:
Can someone tell me is Tony Andrecchio pro Wests Tigers?

Not PRO Balmain, not pro Magpies...2 teams i don't give a shit about

Is he a positive for Wests Tigers?

100 % Wests Tigers

MotoG · 2026-10-17T22:34:28+1100

achilles said:
How would it introduce accountability?

Its a fundamental change in the governance structure. But to answer your question, members would have the right to vote in decision makers, and therefore; also vote out decision makers, should performance be considered sub par. For example. Whereas at the moment, you have debenture holders warring eachother and wasting members money on legal fee's, with no real consequence

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