There is a hazy rumour floating around that Ricky Stuart has inquired about Luke Brooks availability to replace George Williams in Canberra.
Not sure on reliability, source has 50% hit rate. But one worth watching if it develops. By that I mean, watching Brooks out the door.
There was an enquiry by Wigan to see if they could get George Williams immediately and suggested a three way swap with Hastings moving to the Tigers, Brooks to Canberra and Williams to Wigan. I believe it was nothing more than an enquiry/suggestion which was shot down.
I wonder how much freight we’d expect to carry for Brooks still has a few years and on big $ which i cant see the raiders taking on. I think Brooks does need to go for his sake and our sake but to carry the can for this to happen would be silly especially when we’ve a;ready signed Hastings for next year.
Hastings is a downgrade from Brooks
The only people who even think brooks is crap , is the fans on social media , and Mick Ennis ( who has a bee in his bonnet because his close mate in Reynolds was wearing the magpies jersey last year ) There’s been no mention out of the club that they’re even remotely unhappy with him. I’m curious if he does play second receiver , how many try assists he will get . Or if he will prove everyone right on here .
You don’t think bringing Madden into the side is a sign?
Sign, sign everywhere a sign -
I reckon this could work. We’d have a lock who can make a bust and he’d be the most skillful lock in the comp. The question is could he handle it defensively.
Then Brooks would have to get his running and passing game back. Then Madden would have to prove he is a first grader.
Lot of if’s but maybe it’d work.
Doueihi can’t be lazy if that was to happen.
His work rate off the ball is terrible.
Locks these days need to be very fit, full of energy both in attack and when defending.
Doueihi isn’t lazy. He is going great for us. I do agree that it’d be tough on him but maybe he could do it.
He is, even admitted last week or the week before saying Robbie is kicking up the backside due to being lazy. He has alot of upside but without the ball he is very ordinary.
He’s hard on himself tho.
If he’s lazy, what would you call our other players?
Douohei, Laurie and our 9s are the most active.
It’s just how Lebanese people are mate.
Hard workers who always thrive to do better.
It’s on our blood.
Check out the first try in the Dragons game. That’s what people mean when they say he’s lazy.
And if he does take too many risks and they don’t come off he will get slaughtered on here as well. Whoever our halfback is it seems they are on a hiding to nothing…too many low risk plays/not enough off the cuff footy, it is a razor-thin balance.
Haven’t seen too much about Madden to get excited about TBH, but I hope he has an absolute blinder. Every week I hope every one of our blokes has a great game, they are our team after all👍.
But the reward (if it comes off) is massive, he will become rich beyond his dreams and feted throughout the league.
But as Happy_Tiger says, don’t die wondering, he may not get another chance?
But we have had a few blokes recently, Gamble, Hoffman and Cini who have had 1 dodgy game and been caned straight back to reserve grade for it (Gamble wasn’t that bad in his debut but bore the brunt of a pathetic loss). That would have to kill a young blokes confidence…and faith in the club’s systems TBH when they see established players playing like garbage week after week yet still getting picked for first grade.
I hope Madden just plays the percentages tomorrow, a solid debut. If he goes all out and his plays come off, great. If he does that and they fail he will be the scapegoat banished to KOE Cup history tells us. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t unfortunately.
Hoffman was never intended to play more than the one game. And he was fine.
Who said he was only intended to play one game?
He wasn’t bad in that game, hardly great, from memory Mbye playing inside him rushed in plenty of times and left Hoffman stranded. Rabbitohs scored 4 or 5 tries down that flank. Not all Hoffman’s fault but he was the one to get punted to reserve grade after it.
Because he was only picked cos we were low on numbers and he was on a development contract. He had to be given an exemption by the NRL.
I don’t want to put this in the Madge thread as it involves “us” equally.
But all this "it is the Tigers / it is the players " has been a bit too much this week.
Two simple facts:
In Maguire’s last 51 games in charge of a star-studded Rabbitohs side, his success rate was even worse (18 wins) than it is now at the Wests Tigers.
Everyone needs to read that…and read it slowly…with a vet roster, tons of Origin players, his record was 18 from 51 last two years at Souths, not us, SOUTHS So, you can’t blame “wests culture”.
90% of this roster is from his time with us. So, you can’t just blame Tiger’s players / our history.
Combined with Souths and us, his winning record is about mid 30s.
Those are all facts. I am not even giving an opinion here, it just facts that his record with Souths and us his past five seasons has been very poor. Not one or two seasons, five…
The game has changed a hell of a lot since 2014…and using his past ‘five’ years is a fair period of time to judge someone. The facts are not really debatable at two clubs.
People need to lay off the whole “it is the Tigers” stuff.
We all know numbers don’t tell the whole story.
Souths were a bottom 8 side when Madge signed on. He took them to a top 4 side then in 2014 they finished 2nd and won the GF. That is a fact that also cannot be overlooked.
I agree, the facts are not debatable but the inconvenient facts also need to be included in the equation. 😁
The culture of an organisation is usually set by its administrators, the people responsible for policy and procedure.
I think if you look closely at the reasons for Souths demise during those 50 games, you may find a trigger or turning point resulting in on field influences beyond the Coaches control? It may have been as simple as the relationship between Crowe and Keary? Or a couple of players. Who knows?
All I’m saying is , sure numbers are relevant facts, but the contributing factors or causes are more relevant.
Bet it’s a smokescreen for Madden to start with Brooks and mybe of the bench to cover liddle or play lock of the bench. The whole week everyone’s been talking about mybe and douehie and not a mention of madden playing. He’s got wraps on him so smart if that’s what’s happening. The interviews make it look suss aswell, I really think madden is starting.
I hope Madden starts. It will good see how he handles 1st grade.
Got a battle on our hands to keep a couple of these kids in Flegg. I won’t name the kids but , Matt Cameron (panthers), Peter sharp (bulldogs) and Crusher Cleal (manly), very keen on 4 different kids in this Flegg side. Interesting next couple of months for hartigan and the team on who they prioritise in terms of up and coming talent. And someone mentioned lambkins influence in signing junior talent on this forum in the past, it seems he may be offered a more lucrative position elsewhere also. Perils of a junior players going well I suppose.
Well we shouldn’t lose any of them. At least none of the ones we want to keep. Offer Lambkin whatever he wants. Deserves a massively pay rise. Exposure to senior teams if he wants it. With the Coe coming you’d hope that would be enticing too.
We need to get Dillon, Scolari, Tuifua, Lui, Pole, Faitmau,Sykes all signed up. We have spots for them in first grade.
This will be interesting to see how it plays out. We can’t keep them all and there seems to be a push for signing outside backs which limits their pathways a bit. For example, at this point we’ve got Fitzgibbon, Kepoa, Gebbie, Cini and even Cooper holding a number of the Flegg juniors out. At least Ogden & Kei who I rate extremely highly are getting a run.
The only good thing is that those who really want it will go as hard as they can to push for a spot but then that leaves them open to poaching.
Catch 22 but better than having the cupboard bare.
> “I want to take a bit of pressure off ‘Brooksy’ [Luke Brooks] in attack, and be louder at the back with directing the boys in the defensive line.”
Young fullback with about a dozen games NRL experience (give or take) trying to take pressure off the 150+ game halfback.
Good to see Laurie taking that initiative but shows that he and Tamou now aren’t too sure of Brooks’ ability to cope as the go to man. Makes the switch harder to comprehend this week but we shall see how it unfolds
You do realise that’s what all fullbacks do right? They are basically a second five eight…
Well all you suckers on this great forum that death ride the Club,the Coach and the Players…good old TT had to work until about 11.00pm last night and had to miss the Mighty Maggies game,however while at work TT ran into one of his mates daughters who happens to be leaving at 4.00am to head up to magic round with her husband,she is a Raiders tradgic as is her hubby…
TT gave them $20 bucks and said "you put in $20 and we will have $40 on the Mighty Tigers all up the Raiders…at least TT puts his money where his heart is…I think it could be a good bet,although the faiders are on a slide they have to win to be a chance at the top 8 as well as saving some face after resent games…
Wests Tigers would like to congratulate the four players selected from its 2021 Tarsha Gale Cup squad to represent their respective regions at the upcoming National Championships later this month.
Congratulations to Katie Edwards, Jessica Kennedy and Jessica Whelan — who have been selected to play for New South Wales City — and Tiamo Williams, who has been selected to represent the Queensland Sapphires.
Yeah Gus said he liked the make up of the team.
Said Brooks tries his guts out and is very talented. Said he isn’t whats wrong at the tigers.
Also said he’s a fan of Moses and likes him in 5/8
When asked about Douehi and that he’s been our best. Gould said but we haven’t been winning so coach has right to change the team around.
Said we need to win as doesn’t know where we go from here.
He likes our team.
And tipped us to win.
Nice comments from the guy who runs the Warriors.
I would think he has enough issues.
What does that even mean?
So because he took up a job to help the warriors he has no idea?
I guess all of his knowledge and achievements are invalid now.
I applaud him for taking on the warriors job. Not many credible people in the biz would have.
Just saying it’s easy to make comment on what other clubs should do when it’s not your club.
Well actually he didn’t comment on “what Tigers should do”, he said he had a theory what Madge might be going for with the changes he made. It was more about a possible explanation for Madge’s decision rather than advice or a suggestion on what he should do.
I just listened to the podcast 5 mins ago.
Did you catch what Gus said to the Qld supporter when he told Gus to sit down.
Went back and played that bit 3 times and still couldn’t catch what Gus said.
No I stopped about half-way through, I didn’t have time for all 55 mins.
“The Tigers can still train at Concord if they like, but they need to accept the South Western Sydney region is their heartland and where they can draw strength from. In a salary-capped competition like the NRL, having access to that stream of talent”
What people dont realise is the Mountains of houses appearing past Macarthur. Its like how Kellyville went from Doughie oval to McMansion central. The number of houses and Suburbs from there is going to be huge.
I’m afraid there are two bits of baloney here.
Second one first - sure houses are appearing where they didn’t used to be in the South West. Same with North West and West. Sure. But what about the mountains of houses that already exist in established suburbs? What about the housing density in the CBD and inner South Sydney? Far far more people in a much smaller catchment. What about the populations in untapped markets like Perth, Adelaide, a second team in Brisbane, Melbourne? What is the fixation with Campbelltown as a region?
Then the first furphy - “stream of talent”. Firstly I haven’t seen any data to suggest Macarthur provides a disproportionate amount of either junior footballers or NRL-quality footballers, compared to any other region. Even just looking at the Tigers 2021, do we have any Macarthur junior players in FG apart from Nofo? There are two Balmain juniors, and by far more Kiwi-born/raised players.
Who are the two most successful teams of the past 10+ years? Easily Storm and Easts, and they also easily have the smallest junior talent pools in the comp. Storm obviously historically recruit heavily from QLD and Easts’ most high-profile footballers of recent years are not from Eastern Sydney - not Keary, not Tedesco, not Sam Walker, not Latrell, not Joey Manu, not RTS, not Brad Fittler etc.
There’s nothing to stop any modern-day club heavily mining any region for juniors. There’s nothing to stop you at NRL level. Benji Marshall sure as hell is not from Sydney, nor is Daine Laurie from our juniors, nor is Stefano or Shawn Blore.