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Not sure I would say intentional but perhaps they are calculated breather penalties - woth taking the risk for the resart 10m out. There are a couple that have been so blatant you really have to wonder. What I would give to sit down and talk footy over a few ales! (in the off season of course).

Bold, really? I thought it was a pretty obvious move given the conditions. Neither JL or Latu have great long kicking games. In my book, nieither does AD but it is better than the other two. AD did all of the general play kicking unless we were down in the red zone so his strength in this are...

JL certainly hasn't hit any many home runs with the ball in hand and his discipline is certainly something he needs improve - especially having the C beside his name. This was in his game at Penrith too; but they were better able to cope with the disadvantage. Here, in a leadership role, it is...

Well done Tigers; great initiative to be more inlcusive.

He was my pick out of that system. You just don't know with Richo as it is all done in silence.

Mav was on my watch list as a potential earlier in the year. Pretty sure someone had "int" at the time that he was not a chance as he was about to be tied up in the Penrith system. He has plenty of up side and will push for a spot in FG ahead of Seyfarth/Sukkar. I would not be surprised to see...

Yes, but that was not the subject of the conversation. If the conversation had been about Luai's performances the issues would have been front and centre. It was not though - we are in the AD thread discussing the club's offer to him and why he would not be offered more. I don't believe the...

He was on the ball and performed - that is what AD is about. It is his off the ball efforts that are being criticised. If someone put a grubber in front of him he would react the same way - but if the kick is not for him he doesn't put pressure on, his kick chase efforts are average, etc. This...

If you go back through the discussion you will note that the points of contention aren't about how AD is performing in 2025. Is is about the contract offering to AD, why he should or shouldn't be offered more and his alignment with where Wests Tigers are heading. Luai has no influence on that...

I wish it was. The reason is he doesn't put in the effort to get to the ball. It is one of the effort areas he puts no effort into.

The thing is Droppy I'm not anti AD. What I am describing is why he isn't the answer if we want to enter a premiership window. I have stated that he is a good player and I have acknowledged his performances over the last few weeks. I also think he potentially has a place in the team as depth or...

Sorry mate - I was saying that you get it. There is no use paying AD big dollars to park him when the guy we need becomes available.

I think Benji will take it game by game, I really think the kicking game in the wet was the reason AD played at 7 insted of Latu. I think it is more likely to be AD at 13 and Latu at 7. There may be a bit of a rotation policy - AD to start, and then bring Latu on once things have settled a bit...

No, I definitely saw all of that and I'm not brushing it aside. It was clear that he had a great game and was probably the best on the ground. But was he doing what has been asked of him and that the what is reflected in the offer. Noting that what is reported is bullshit media speculation or IM...

I doubt the figure is $350K; Richo isn't divulging this to the media - they are making up figures to trigger clicks. The reality will be that Richo has offered what he is worth to the club based on their assessment of how he fits into the future team - not the one trotting out in 2025. Sure he...

Which is why he should be paid on what he is worth to the club. I just posted my reasoning in the AD thread. But in short: It is what he doesn't do off the ball that is his limiting factor. I'm not saying he is a bad player at all. He has done some great things but the offer he has been given...

So we pay AD 500k for 2 years , and better options come along , and we have another Sullivan issue where we are paying half a mil for a dude to lead the KOE cup team around . You get it!

That is typical AD play though - if he is on the ball he can be fantastic. It is what he doesn't do off the ball that is his limiting factor. Rewatch last weekends game and focus on him off the ball - the difference between the left and right side line speed is telling. Luai and his edge is...

Benji has made it very clear who our long term 7 is going to be. As a short term 13/14 AD has a job; he can step in as required as Latu develops. Latu will have had a full off season to develop and will be fighting for a spot with a genuine half in Madden.

I think Bud is $500K; Galvin's offer was never tabled so we only have Richo's word - which could well have been a little porky to bend someone else's cap out of shape. $700K is a lot of coin for an unproved 13 and while AD played well yesterday he has never been consistent and there are still...