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Ah, my memory isn't as bad as I thought it was :) https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/a-disgrace-of-the-old-school-20030816-gdh99d.html Might need to go "incognito" to read it. I can't believe the best ex-polly the Libs can bring out to back their case is Howard. The only two words I've got to say...

Wasn't Manildra somehow connected with John Howard years ago when they got govt largesse? Some sort of insolvency protection? Boss of Manildra was related/connected to Howard in a subsidy for something like ethanol production? Might be mistaken - apologies if I am.

Wow! Real Tiger's country! I'm no coalition fan, but I'm glad I don't live in Reid lol. We are at opposite ends of the field (you are starting a 7 tackle restart on your line :) cause I'm glad Martin voted that way) but I think either Martin or Binai would be good.

Which seat Earl? No decent independent :)

LOL

Except between 2013 and just BEFORE the pandemic became a thing - our debt basically doubled? No extrinsic factors: no headwinds, no war, no pandemic, no GFC? What was Josh's excuse?

If Frydenberg loses his seat and government....and Dutton becomes leader of the coalition (likely) they will be in opposition until Dutton is rolled. Just a guess :)

I know this is a year or so old but I'll let everyone one guess into whose pockets the difference between the blue and orange lines went? Hint: it wasn't into increased real wages.

This is not meant as a flippant "gotcha" - genuine question - what was the last job Scott Morrison had that he wasn't sacked from?

As far as economic management goes, from the time the coalition came to power in 2013 until just PRIOR to any sign of the pandemic our debt almost doubled.

BT, I'm not sure whether you are praising him or otherwise but from what I saw of Oakeshott I thought he did his job well.

Have to disagree Stryker. Whoever is in government when independents hold the balance of power, instead of pushing through whatever takes their fancy they actually have to argue their case. And if the independents in question are not nutters the resulting legislation is usually improved. My...

I've been reluctant to comment in this thread but I will say about the independents that in Indi, since Cathy McGowan gave Sophie Mirabella the "move on" and with one term of Helen Haines to judge her on, we have been better represented than any time in the 20 odd years I've lived here.

Agree. The perfect pass in a pressure situation!

I just had a feeling about yesterday. And my cousin's horse won at Warwick Farm! Great weekend :)

You were unlucky. According to his son, Bill Waterhouse arranged for Tails to be nobbled. One of my favourite horses ever.

I grew up in Mudgee where the (then) Group 14 town team wore Balmain colours. So ever since I was a young kid playing under 4 stone 7 pounds (lol) I followed the Tigers. In 1969 in my last primary school year I had bets with classmates and teachers backing Balmain. They thought it was easy...

Very interesting read. https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/world/is-the-russian-air-force-actually-incapable-of-complex-operations

Thanks Tiger5150. I note that interview is with CBS but it is 3 days old. This is what I was referring to. https://fortune.com/2022/03/09/us-plane-swap-deal-ukraine-poland-what-happen/

Tiger5150? Wasn't that swap of Migs for F16's knocked on the head?