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Speaking of The Cup... Early thoughts, but I like the prep of Middle Earth & Zarduzi for 2 horses that haven't caught a lot of headlines. Also, watching Deakin & like what I've seen. None should be considered in the favourites, but I have liked the prep. Neither have finished more than 6...

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Widdop played 7 to Barrett. Is Benji worse than Barrett? But then, Barrett played 7 to Mundine. So is Benji behind Mundine?

I like a lot of different takes on players on here. Everyone has valid opinions & in many ways, I think all of them are right. Trying to compare players from different eras, with different styles etc is incredibly hard. That's not even taking into calculation things like support cast, rule...

I think if you spend your time & resources copying other teams blueprints, you're forever playing catch up. Instead of finding reasons that some players are not fitting 'the modern game', I'd really like seeing coaches using those players strengths to exploit new weaknesses. Small, mobile...

I see the argument for 'upgrading' Twal. I also see the argument that Twal is a reasonable starting quality NRL forward. What he isn't, is impactful. Whether it's replacing him, or rotating him with someone off the bench, the club needs forwards that can either turn the game with...

Tim Grant & Mataulino put in when they were on the field.

Mason Teague would make a lot of sense. I'd be good with Hopoate & Jack Hetherington as well. All offer some decent depth at minimum.

It's almost like you don't want to refer to what your point was... "I think the biggest issue is how close they are to Benji. Of course you want the coach and players to have a good relationship, but there is such a thing as being too close, and I think proof of that is when supporters start...

Yeah. That was the point. Good one.

OK- fair. Also fair- there is not much of a track record of this approach by Benji & Richo having failed at any other point. Name the last coach that tried the 'fun culture'?

If Api goes down, Hope is serviceable. But is he a 24 game type? I don't think so. The need to play another guy would increase in my opinion. You'd need 2 serviceable options including Hope- not necessarily an upgrade on Hope. Fact is, if Api, Luai, Bula go down for the season- we are going to...

I'm not trying to bag anyone. Opinions are just opinions & mine are no more right than anyone else's. That said, it seems like we are whipping ourselves into a frenzy earlier than normal this year.

Conversely you could argue that the issue was lack of viable options. Perception. Who got picked because they were Benji's best bud?

There's the key word in your argument. Who's perception? I'm yet to see or hear any evidence that Benji is 'too close' to players. It's a myth perpetuated by a few downcast fans.

Are you saying Benji is chest bumping players at training? The players have no respect for the coaching staff? What is the point being made?

@Tucker & @GNR4LIFE The point here is highlighted. Sweet. Ivan Cleary or Bellamy get sacked tomorrow. Do the fans feel they are going to lose players as a result? Your both arguing about a perception that you have. Zero facts or evidence that Benji has Luai & co around for a game of golf...

How many clubs have significantly better options than Hope as the back-up though? I'd say the club needs options. Not necessarily upgrades. The fact that it's Hope & then the kid at the moment is a problem. Another option in the KOE would be ideal. A guy that can play a bit of #13 as well would...

Your point was- players can be too close to coaches. Cleary & Flannagan are pretty decent examples to show it does happen. Works so far for Cleary. Could be argued Flanno's son is getting an unfair leg up. Cleary is a good example though. Tyrone May was dating Cleary's daughter, wasn't he...

So what's different from what Benji is doing outside of the success rate? No indication he's crossing lines is he?